100 Down / Weightix

Tired of losing the weight, only to find that you just fall back on old habits as soon as you reach your goal? Or struggling with constant temptation, even though you know those treats aren’t healthy? If so, you’re likely dealing with a problem shared by most overweight Americans… Addiction. Coach Blu joins us, founder of the non-profit organization “Addict 2 Athlete” as we get into the fundamentals of dealing with addiction. We talk about why food can be more addicting than drugs, and why that addiction leads to a life-time of misery for so many people. And of course, Coach Blu talks us through some basic techniques you can use to start taking control of the problem. You can find more about Coach Blu and Addict II Athlete, here: www.addicttoathlete.org Automated Transcript Below: Hello and welcome to another episode of The Weightix / 100 down podcast. I am Bryan and this is probably the most anticipated most exciting topic that we have ever thought. I am super excited about this one because literally since the day that I started Weightix cuz I’ve had requests for this podcast. The problem that I’ve had with this particular topic is I am not an expert in life, you know anything from previous podcast from reading my blog from participation in the Weightix group or the 100 down area. It’s that unless I understand it. I really don’t like talking about it and very happy to Aja fir to other people who are experts when when that’s appropriate. This is a case where I am not an expert. However, I have found somebody who is actually a couple of people who are far far bigger experts than I will ever be number one and number two probably some of the the I’m going to go out on a limb here and say these are probably some job Leading experts at least in in the country. If not the world on this topic because they eat sleep and breathe this topic. So we’re going to get into the the concept of food addiction today and I have blue and Marissa Robinson if you guys want to say hello. Yeah. Hey, thanks for having us on we’re excited to be here. That was quite the intro world. You know, I am I sincerely believe that you know, you don’t have to you don’t have to be putting on big seminars and writing expensive books and doing the you know, the the The Joe Rogan podcast wage order to be in order to really know your stuff and I I’ve had enough interaction with you guys to know that you guys really know your stuff. I also had the opportunity blue to be on your podcast not very long ago. I I had an amazing time on that. You asked some of the most intelligent questions that I’ve actually ever gotten and I feel like we had a really good time. So I I was so excited because I’ve been looking for so long for somebody else. Who can come on here and actually give people who are trying to lose weight some context around what that means from the perspective of addiction. I have one other person here that I want to that has been the podcast before that’s Jared Salo Jared. Hey, how’s it going? Buddy? Jared? Why don’t you give us a first of all let’s give Jared. Why don’t you give your sort of 2 minute introduction? So everybody knows where you’re coming from how long you’ve been with Wade across and and kind of your history and then I want blue and Marissa to to talk a little bit about their background. Sure so early 2017. I was at my worst and that’s where I started to lose all the weight. But what kind of kick things off was in 2015. I was thirty-four years old and I suffered a heart attack. I had the Widowmaker heart attack get lucky that I shared that and then alive. Yep. So how much did you wait your worst? You said, you know, my worst has about four hundred pounds. Perfect. Okay, and you had a heart attack how how long ago was that? Oh boy, that would have been 2015 and closed and that was right before I met you log. Right. Yeah, we would have been appears for we we met yeah, so yeah, I have the heart attack and even that wasn’t the wake-up called and I needed I knew I needed to lose weight, but the problem was the lack of everything experience and knowing what to do long story short met Brian and learned about CarMax and I realized this was a diet that I could do lost a hundred and sixty pounds and shortly after Thursday. Sixty pound loss. I ran a half-marathon and then after that I kind of got complacent there wasn’t any more goals after that and the weight started coming back up and then a couple of bouts with depression and I’m I’m I’m back up sixty pounds some down a hundred pounds still but I’ve seen back 60 of that pounds that I’ve that I’ve launched yet. I’m first of all, I want to point out that’s amazing. And I think so many times people lose like a huge amount of weight and then and then and then they relapse a little bit and they forget sometimes that you’re still ahead. Right? I mean if you if you lose a hundred pounds and you gain back ninety pounds your name 10:00 and and that is that is we’re celebrating. So let’s let’s let’s celebrate that the fact that you know, you’re you’re you’re still better now than you were before. I mean way better right? Not only that but my guess is you’re making way smarter choices now than you were before and even during that relapse. I’ll bet you were making smarter choices than you were before. So let’s not, you know, give yourself some credit here off your your way ahead of where you were at your worst. Okay, I appreciate that. Yeah, I still feel a lot better. But I’d like to get back to where I was. Well, yeah, let’s do it. I have Jared on here for a specific reason and and I want to get into that in a second but blue and off odisha. Why don’t you guys introduce yourselves? So I’m Marissa Robinson. I am a recreational therapist. I used to work with at-risk youth. Let’s see almost ten years ago. We started out of athlete a program helping people affected by addiction not only those seeking recovery but also family and and friends and anyone in in the workplace and and what is what is addict to athlete all about like walk us through what goes through your angle here? We have a lot of different components that it started as just a free alternative support groups, like alternative to the 12 Steps something else to help those who struggle with addiction. It’s something that everyone can come and attend with the whole family and we promote our birth. Jason replaced philosophy if you take away the addiction, then you have to replace it with something else or that void is there and it will be filled with something. So if you don’t if you’re not intentional about how you feel about it will fill itself. So we follow that erase and replace philosophy and we have chapters throughout the country mostly based in Utah, but then we also do online support and three podcasts a week a lot of educational content YouTube a few years ago. We became owners of a residential treatment center for adults and substance abuse and outpatient program. And so we worked with a known that program for about three years. So we’ve been on that side of the treatment side of addiction as well as you know that Community Resources and and things like that. So you’re saying, you know, very little about addiction. Is that what I just heard you say. All right, we’ve seen it all I wanted a dog Tell you guys I have I have very few. I’m just the kind of person who has very few kind of personal heroes in in life. But your mission you you guys are absolutely my heroes with what you guys are doing. Thank God and I mean that sincerely blue how what what the heck made you get into this. Personal experience absolutely. So, you know and I want to pause right there. I’m sorry. You said you said two very important words because I I say this to people all the time do not take advice from someone who has not been there before do not take advice from someone who hasn’t been there before. This is why fit and healthy people hand out the worst weight loss advice I have ever seen because they never break the journey. So blue you you’ve been there. Yeah personal experience. I’ve battled my own addictions all throughout my adolescence and teenage years and very early adult life. And for the longest time. I didn’t know where they came from. And so when when I was fully licensed as a mental health therapist and a substance use disorder counselor addiction specialist, I sort of seen that there’s only one outlet for for a walk outside of like standardized treatment and that was a twelve-step community and the 12-step communities are fantastic, but I thought there’s some of them that there’s some people that that doesn’t work for and log Program but I worked at as a therapist required my clients to go to three meetings outside of our regular program. And one day I came back from Russia. I saw my clients like like forging their signature sheets. They say they had it’s been dead. But who do you guys doing? You know, and they told me oh, you know, we don’t like these meetings since I thought there’s got to be something out there that I could send these guys too. And there wasn’t so I’m posturing those guys place for one second because this is also really important. It seems like inevitably every time somebody says addiction the very next words out of their mouths are twelve-step program almost like like like it’s the Bible and it’s irrefutable. You want to beat addiction you have to do the twelve-step program what you’re telling me is you’re you’re not a fan of that. Is that is that what I just heard you say, I’m not I I believe wholeheartedly in the 12 steps. I think they they’re guaranteed to work. If you took them correctly most people have a hard time with it, but there are other ways to get to that finish line. I love it. Okay. I want to get into that that in a minute for sure because I think that’s a unique thing that you guys are doing wage. And I’m in the same boat. I’ve always kind of looked at the twelve-step program and scratch my head a little bit and thought it’s good but is it too complicated or is it too much but I don’t know you’re going to tell us about that here in just a second deadly get into that. But so there there wasn’t and so I’m a firm believer that if there’s there’s a void somewhere. It’s my responsibility to fill it and I knew what works my own recovery, which was you know mountain biking and being a choice because I was no longer an addict. I removed myself from an addict to an athlete. So our name added to acid is like it’s a trend if it’s transition. It’s a progression. It’s the Roman numeral two months on our lot or logo represents building, you know, once you have to you can build a foundation to build upon that and the Roman numeral system, they don’t identify zero so you’re never completely off like alone you’re never completely zero. So we took that philosophy. We we created this program where I started having my clients who were recovering from drugs and alcohol instead of coming to group into sitting around table. About life. We got there running shoes, which stretched like to come out running and training for a 5k, but the craziest thing happened is as I was running with them. They were two are so open he would tell me about trauma The Experience sad all these heavy things that they never told me in my awesome fengshui office out here in public. They’re like tell me honestly didn’t realize the mechanism of what our brain does to heal itself, which is essentially what’s called EMDR therapy we can get into that later but it’s your brain processing trauma and as you’re running and working out it just comes and I have no idea the magnitude of what that would do and that was ten years ago. And now we’re like versus said we’re up to about five thousand athletes throughout the country and and growing and it was just kind of really an excuse for me to go running at lunchtime that turned into this country movement. All right, I was exposed before I’m even more excited. Now this is going to be great blue. I want to start with something here because we have an interesting we have an interesting demographic inside of Weightix, you know, one of the biggest challenges with birth. Los is keeping it off after it’s gone and and breaking these old habits and a lot of people they kind of they kind of fall back on this problem of motivation. And first of all, four people who are here, if you have not listen to the podcast we did on a discipline and motivation, please please please in fact Push pause right now go listen to that and then come back to this one because it ties in so perfectly but the you know, the challenge they find is that motivation is just not there when they need it. They they’re enormously motivated when they start and Jared can tell you all about this, right because he literally had a doctor tell him if you don’t change you will die and and you can sneak in hospitals to write people go in and for four lung cancer and the minute their surgeries over there out on the on the out, you know, the outside porch and they’re smoking a cigarette because I mean they’re literally dying and they can’t give up the thing that put them in this position and we have so many people in Weightix. So I think I think a good number of people are willing to admit that they have a problem. There’s there’s there’s an addiction component to this but a lot of other people, you know, not so much and I gotta tell you during my own journey. I don’t think I necessarily realized it at the time but not very eye-opening moment where I was sitting there eating my my second Double Whopper for lunch, right? I just finished the first one started on the second one and the only thing I could think about was what I was going to have for dinner. Like I was so excited about dinner even though I’m sitting here with you know, my favorite lunch and that really in my in my mind I did the word Addiction didn’t enter my head at the time and didn’t for a long long time after I now look back and realize I had a serious problem, but I want to I want to play a little I want to play a little game with you here and I call it addiction Or Nah. All right. So we’re going to we’re going to do this. Cuz what I want to do is give you some phrases that I hear all the time from people, you know, and I want you to tell me if they have the Hallmark signs of addiction or not as they describe this. Okay? Here’s here’s number one. I’m not addicted to crack. Food, but I tend to rely on food as a coping mechanism when I get stressed or emotional addiction or not addiction. All right. Okay. All right. All right. This is going to be hard for some people to here. By the way. I’m telling you that right now and if you’re listening to this, please just understand that. All we’re trying to do is reframe the way that you’re thinking about your journey here and by reframing it you’re going to get a whole new set of tools that you can use to help you right? So not a bad thing. No, it’s not a bad thing. That’s thank you Marissa. That is exactly my point. I’m not trying to make anybody feel bad. I’m trying to get you an extra set of tools here that I think you can use. Okay. So here’s the next one already. I’m not addicted to food, but I just really feel like I need Comfort Suits food sometimes like when I’m sick or I’m having a tough day. Yes, okay. Okay. All right. Have you under here’s another one? I’m not addicted to food, but when I’m full I still find myself reaching for my favorite snacks. Yes, absolutely. Okay again 3 for three. Okay. This is getting more and more uncomfortable for everybody here cuz I I’m not addicted to food but my doctor told me that if I don’t lose weight I’m going to die soon, but I just can’t stay committed to it. Yeah, okay. All right. I’ll give you one more here. I’m not addicted to food but many times in my life. I’ve lost twenty maybe a hundred pounds and within a few months. I just fell back on Old Habits and the way comes back on me. Steal that from me I did that’s actually Jarred right there. Yeah, almost word-for-word I think because and Jared I don’t mean to pick on you. But the reason the reason I love having Jared here is Jared and I are really really good friends and and he knows I’m taking this from the right place. But when I asked Jared to be on his mom had cast I believe that was almost the exact sentence that he said look I’m not struggling with addiction. I’m struggling with commitment. Is that fair Jared for me to find it like that? Okay. All right and Get I’m not trying to pick on Jared Brian. The cool thing that you said is is the first three in the last one. They are what you’d classify through the addiction model as abusing a substance abusing something without them both of you. Just did you just call Food a substance? Yes. Oh boy. This is going to get real uncomfortable for a lot of people asked specifically when you’re talking about this kind of conversation. Every time you have a butt in it council’s all of it out because you can’t justify it with that. So the the first three and the last one are what I would classify if you if you substituted, you know, like food with with with with you know, like, you know marijuana or you know, let’s try let’s try it with one of these same. Yeah. Yeah. Can we try it real quick? All right. Let’s try this. Let’s try this the first one maybe I’m not addicted to alcohol, but I tend to rely on alcohol as a coping mechanism when I get stressed or emotional now when you put it in that context blue, it’s it sounds ridiculous, right? Yeah, he would look at someone and go home. Think about like you can’t admit this. Let’s try the second one. I’m not addicted to marijuana, but I just really feel like I need comfort sometimes like when I’m sick or I’m having a tough day and again with your boss. I love that you like frame you fret you if you plug anything else into that spot. It’s it’s absurd to think that it’s not addiction. You’re right. This is crazy to an addiction even even just you know with the term. It’s very controversial because of of the the way that we’ve been I guess kind of cultured into it. It identifies in the same parts of the brain that any addiction would so it may say an extra slice of birthday cakes or you know, the site of of cocaine it’s going to light up the same the same parts and there’s something to that and we’ll get into this too, but it’s engineered that off but let me start by explaining what addiction is. Yes, perfect. Like I said, there’s two different types. There’s there’s the abuse and that’s usually you’re you’re using a substance or something to cope with something else. Maybe you call it self medicating if you will and then there’s dependents. Now the second to last one you read felt more like a dependent. So would you read the second to last one again? Yeah. Yeah. I’m not addicted to food but my doctor told me if I don’t lose some weight I’m going to die soon, but I just can’t stay committed to it. See now that’s dependent. So dependence is kind of an interesting abused is your abusing the substance for the game dependence is I can’t live without this now they talk about the disease of addiction. And now I’m kind of one of those guys that’s that you used a very inflammatory word there. So I want to I want to make sure you use that on purpose. I assume the word disease. Yeah, because I think it’s a very controversial thing the medical model pulls addiction into it, which is kind of a I I’m I’m not a real big fan of it because what it what it kind of like implies is that you you have this disease and there’s not much of a move to do with it other than learn to live wage. I think there are a lot fewer people that struggle from the disease and they do like a substituting that that that dependents or that abuse on a subject to fill a need nine times out of ten. Most of us will use food substances. What have you to fill the void of something that hurts and that’s where we abused. So the fact that you have people here right now is off of them are worried about maybe what category they fall in I can guarantee you there in the abuse Factor because the dependent people they don’t care about this. They’re not here with us. They’re out doing their own thing. They usually do not seek help from yeah. Oh this is old-fashioned. All right talking a lot tonight about the abuse the addiction using food to fill a void to 5 or need we got to find out why we can get into the core issue of what’s causing that which is awesome because I’m a firm believer that once you identify the core it all goes like dominoes and it’s dead. It’s doing some soul-searching and and it’s it’s an amazing process. Very liberating. Oh, wow. Okay, this is great. So first of all to the people who are here with us live. I appreciate you immensely. We love the interaction if you have any questions or anything for blue or Marissa or Jared, please type them into the chat window here and and we’ll we’ll sort through them. Jared’s kind of going to run run run moderator off for us and we’ll try to keep this try to keep this moving but they’re absolutely here to answer your question. So fire them in their blue you you you said something interesting where you know, Society doesn’t necessarily Viewpoint addiction with the same weight that it gives to other things and there’s a million reasons for that. But how do you balance this message for that? We keep hearing where they say. You’re beautiful. You’re perfect. Just the way you are. You don’t need to change anything. How do you balance that with your addicted to something that’s going to kill you if you don’t change and by the way, I really believe that obesity fits in that category, right? It it it really will kill dead. If you don’t change, so, where do you where do you kind of balance those? You know, it’s an interesting and exciting principal when you start applying some of those mechanisms that people want you to feel comfortable in your own skin, which I’m a firm believer you should sure but that message isn’t reaching the people that you and I come into contact with because these are the ones that are looking at himself in the mirror. I’m thinking themselves apart and it doesn’t matter if they have a PSA bounce payment on the on the 5:00, you know news break to love yourself. If you are feeling that you’re you’re filling that void with something with substance and you’re you’re you’re plug-in yourself up with food and in Black of it a lack of exercise and whatnot. You’re not going to love the thing that’s looking back at you and my job is to help you discover how and why you fell out of love with you in the first place else and it’s a beautiful thing because people are afraid of that word Addiction. I’m a firm believer the people that overcome weight loss overcome addiction. They are those who have the most strong resourceful. People known the man because they begin to master themselves. It’s not something that I think a lot of people look at the positive sides of addiction, but we talked about having your addiction be the mess that you turn into a message with friends why you’re here. It’s it’s it’s why we’re here is we’re turning the message to a message. So we need people to be able to advocate for themselves through their own efforts and and not and if you feel good about where you you are fantastic, but again that message isn’t being being reached to the people that are here in this group. They they want some kind of change. I believe that so sorry. There’s a lot of social media that pushed and and just populations in general that pushed different unhealthy views of ourselves. No matter what it is, whether it’s it’s okay that you’re you weigh three hundred pounds. You just love your body and don’t worry about it. Yes, but if it’s becoming unhealthy to you, even if you like and you’re happy with where you are at if it’s unhealthy You and going to shorten your life. That’s a danger. That’s not really safe. You hear a lot mostly with Copic going on. I see Memes all the time about oh, you know, how do we make it through without? You know mom’s you have home school without your wine. How do you make it through there’s shirts you can find shirts that just say it’s okay to have your you know, your alcohol and your beer at the end of the day and P push that it’s okay and it ends up becoming and yeah people just normalize it thinking that that’s that’s just how it is and people are then getting worse and worse and worse and worse, you know numbing that with whatever substance food alcohol meth whatever it is and a lot of society is saying well, it’s not that bad, you know, or yeah alcohol food. It’s not as bad as quit comparing. It’s you’re still what are you using it to block out from your mom’s using it to block out the kids crying? Yeah, you touched on something. I think I mentioned on this podcast before which is it’s this idea that that Network television is always looking for the extremes right my is it got my 600 pound life? Is that what it’s called? And I know a lot of people who weigh four hundred five hundred pounds who watched that show and go well boy. I’m glad I’m not I’m glad I’m not that big, you know glad I don’t have those problems. I’m glad I’m healthier than they are and you’re right. It’s all about just reframing the extreme and and it’s very easy to look at that and go. Well. Those are you know, I have a long way to go before I ever have that problem. And so you can you can reform in your mind and think you’re fine just because all you’re ever shown are the extremes right? And I think that’s one of the reasons we do is amazing we do it. I think that’s one of the reasons that it’s hard to to use the word Addiction here is because usually when when when people think of the word Addiction, they’re picturing, you know, the seventies movies of you know, people whose lives have hit complete rock bottom and you know, they’re just a total mess and it’s like dead. We’ll know it doesn’t have to get to that level before you can treat it and work with it. So I think that spot on hey, I have another question for you. This is a little bit unrelated is actually from Martha in our chat room here. She’s asking about food and eating disorders being the same thing. Do you view? You know bulimia? Anorexia. Do you see these as a kind of addiction or are they treated very differently than they’re treated they treated fairly differently with with different results. The disorder family cuz addiction is a is a disorder as well. But I’m a distinguished by the mechanisms of used typically being beat the binging and purging and those things that have to do with with body image issues and have to do with control and a lot of different things off that they’ll fall into it. But the act of carrying those things out can be very addictive, you know that the purging and and those kind of things and so they are in the same family, but I don’t like them. Lump them together because then it loses kind of its context with with the issue that you’re battling and that the issue that you’re that you’re going to understand and to eliminate so it is within that principle. There are there are Concepts similar similarities that gotta go together, but you want to kind of keep them separate so that they don’t kind of lump into one, you know, once you’ve got it. So you’re you’re you’re you’re you said earlier that it’s what are they using it for? Yes, you know and that’s what it really comes down to food heroine alcohol, whatever binging and purging are also a substance a drug and what you get from it and it really doesn’t matter substances are substances food is food is why are you using to num or Block out or whatever. Why are you using it run? You can trace this stuff back to figure out where it started to that’s the that’s the amazing thing about addiction in and of itself is I usually takes about two years after some kind of some kind of situation some kind of turbulence in your life and around, you know, two years within within an activating event should start seeing where life started to kind of go sideways where Maybe started overeating or starting to stop you’ll caring so much you can pinpoint where this stuff is coming from and it’s just not the world according to Blue here. It seems like noticing patterns about people’s behaviors that were not as unique as we think and we can pinpoint this which gives you kind of a window to find out how to solve it’s kind of neat thing. Oh, this is interesting. Okay. So this is a really good segue my next question here. I and we touched on this earlier, you’re not a fan of the twelve step process necessarily. I do want you to talk a little bit about that. But one of the questions we got, you know was as I posted that wage. To be doing this podcast. Somebody said they said all right. I admit I have a problem. I’m addicted to food. What now? What’s the second step? Yeah, you want to take that one off. So yeah, then you start looking for a ways to treat and heal it mhm. You know, how do you address it? Why are you using it? Why are you using food? How are you using it off? What kinds of food are triggers what kinds of things do you have cravings for that are difficult for you, you know, it’s not just through following the 12 Steps. Although those can be helpful ways to like identify and work through issues for sure. But I love that looking at patterns of behavior. I love that you peel back the layers. You can start finding out why you’re using it in the first place. Is it is it a ward system, you know, I did, you know, I I felt good at work. So I’m doing this or you know, I got chewed up my boss again. So I’m doing that is it? Well, I’m working so hard that I’ve got to grab, you know something on the wage. You know, like I told you Brian, I mean I would go to work and I’d be like yeah, you know what I paid good money to swing by and grab a doughnut. I did not grab to you know, and I’m like, it’s one of those things where you gotta figure out why you’re using it off once you have identified. Yeah. This is an addiction now you go back to later later in circle. And for what I call the core issue. It’s that it’s that belief. It’s that lie that you told yourself is that reason for using home? Sometimes it goes back to things as deep as as neglect or abandonment that we felt when we were young and sometimes it could be, you know, like other things but what I noticed once you pinpoint what that is, then you should start changing it, but the problem that we have is that most people try to heal their addictions they get caught up in the feelings and not the thoughts see so we feel depressed. We feel sad but no one ever talked about how addiction makes you think and so it’s kind of a crazy thing. So if my my addiction kind of was created out of out of a kind of Abandonment my place Until like like, you know caretaker didn’t do a great job. And so as a kid I felt abandoned That Grew into an addiction of me trying to self soothe and when I figured that out, I’m like, yeah, it makes me feel sad and depressed and mad and in the loan, but why do I think that you know, well, I think about it because you know, there must be something wrong with me and all these lies. I told myself treated those feelings off the desire to use to once you start peeling back the layers the self-discovery when you start doing that is phenomenal. It’s very liberating. So I’ve got a question to go along with that. So Brian has all these I’m not addicted to food but this and but that I think a lot of it becomes habit. I’m doing this because of that. So my question for you is are good habits bad. Are we changing the mindset? You know, for example, Brian runs every day is this a bad thing if he gets addicted to running even though Society would say oh, this is good because he’s working out. He’s very negative side of if we don’t change. Had that exact thought Jared and I’ve often wondered. Yeah, did I just replace one one addiction with another addiction and no you didn’t because they’re very they’re very different mechanisms to that. What’s the difference between between going out and and running a 5k after work or whatnot versus sitting down and and grabbing that to the Pringles and and the coke, right? Well, one of them is way more delicious than the other. I’ll tell you that right now. Yeah, it’s because you know, what else other reward is a lot sooner it’s a lot quicker and it’s a lot more impulsive and your need is met with that fast. Yeah had no cost essentially right people can’t take it too extreme. The funny thing about that too, though is is you know to what end. That’s why we must have said that you erased and replaced. We don’t talk about erasing the food objects and replacing it with running. We talk we talk about erasing replaced with things of Greater valve multiple things. So on T minutes log, We have our Athletic program, but that’s small compared to our community service our public Outreach our family system development, you know our public speaking we have so many avenues that we took we have the athletes participate in that health and Recreation is one small part to a much bigger hole. And so if you paradigm shift from one to another yeah, that’s cross addicting with the things of greater value because you know, like like for me when I go running and whatnot when I dragged my butt down here and I’d like to do it when no one needs me. So typically it’s probably early in the morning cuz no one cares where blue is off at like 6 in the morning. They care where where Dad is at 3:30 in the afternoon when the kids are getting home. And so you gotta you mean into it where it works not for where you makes you feel good to know how big I mean when I first started cycling and biking all over I’d go for hours of rest would call me and say hey man, we have a a wedding reception in an hour when you’ll be back and I realize that I live in Provo, Utah, but I’m in Nephi, which is about 40 Jun. Miles away. I pushed it too far and we had to have that conversation. So that things of greater value are you know, the running the the the responsibility to your family job almost things not just one Paradigm Shift am a blue. Wow, you’re you’re you’re completely reframing the way I even think about my own habits here. Elizabeth has a question. I’m going to unmute her hair and and let her ask you this. This is this is actually very interesting go ahead Elizabeth and going back to what you said about. Finding the core for the reason for the addiction. Like what was it? What was the trigger? What if you had looked at that or have tried finding what that is, but you just can’t narrow it down or you’re not sure what it is like birth specific questions. Do you have found that help reveal that for others? Yes. Absolutely. So the cool thing about that that is again world. According to Blue about a white blood drops. It’s a beautiful thing where once you identify like, do you mind sharing with me? What you think your core issue is? Oh, hang on. I just I muted or computer again. Go ahead. I’ll leave you on meet at this time. You’re fine. I think right now it’s stress. My I just had a third baby who got a diagnosis of a condition that will be a lifelong issue will get to work with and shortly thereafter. I went downhill, but before that I cannot figure out what before that it is. Okay. So you’re you’re on the right you on the right track. So when you’re trying to find your core issue, okay, there’s there’s the story and everyone has a story. So once we hear the story you start looking at it. Okay, let’s say it’s stress and you plug stress in as your core. So what are your thoughts on stress right off? I think that it’s you know, it’s hard to tolerate. I I think that I’m weak because I can’t handle it you go through these thoughts but that’s how hard part because what thoughts on stress. Right? But your thoughts are what creates the feeling that create the behavior and so it’s a behavior chain so stress I hate to tell you is not your core issues. That’s the feeling but you’re jumping over the thought process. Why do I why do I think stress is it and so each are going back into it now therapist coach right here among a deep into it, but you start looking at what does that diagnosis mean to you mean? Cuz then it’s like okay. This is going to be hard as a mother. Am I going to be able to handle that you start digging into the deeper stuff of like it’s not going to emotionally be able to do this start looking at like capacity and things like do I have the capacity of my part to do this which causes stress? It’s caused it to make sense. It hurts and I can’t make it off. I can’t warn you enough. Yeah, it hurts. But once you figure it out, the thoughts are clear. Your feelings are clear. When you move into the wants, what do you want as a result defying this core issue? What do you want for yourself? What do you want for others? What do you want for stakeholders? They all have a y’all have a stewardship in this and then you go to your plan. What are you going to do to eliminate it Elizabeth? I almost fell off. Should be laying down on the couch while you have this conversation here. Yeah, absolutely on the right track to see that’s where it gets hard because stress is a feeling that’s not your it’s not a core issue, but it’s so overwhelming and of course stress is the number one cause of any relapse on anything whether it be a gambling pornography substance is eating. His stress is the number one and I like it’s across from from a Weightix perspective. I have to agree with that. I would say, you know, the people that reach out to me and you know who are doing the yo-yo diet thing will always say I would say 98% of the time it’s very, very rare that they say anything other than I just got stressed out something stressed me out. And I just went and then I fell back on Old Habits and that that exact phrase. I’ve heard a thousand times in the way to swirl a thousand times and I would be more than happy to send to you the diagram in the outline on how to do this. And I know the bride will probably give out our information at the end, but I’ll be more than happy to help you through give it out right now. And then we’re going to give it out again at the end because I am you’re you’re you’re clearly I can tell by the comments I can tell by the in the interaction is going on offline you’re connecting with a lot of people right now that I think we could plug into your organization and you can make a huge difference for them. How how do they get started with you? So you can go to our website addict athlete. We have tons of podcasts YouTube videos lot a lot of free content along a free free stuff, but you can also email me Marissa t o a fleet. And I can set you up like a dog Need people they’ll want maybe something further and deeper cuz yeah, there’s a lot of stuff you can try to figure out on your own there’s tons of self-help kind of things. But if there’s something like that I just can’t reach that point then yeah looking into a professional like blue does Private individual counseling through Zoom. It can be done anywhere. You don’t need to be here. In fact right now, no one’s coming to the office phone so it can all be done wherever you’re at. And you know, I can explain how to like set up counseling and session like that. I have all the schedule and can forward that out to you too. Perfect and merciful. Also a member of our way text group on Facebook. So she’s easy to find she off posts often. They’re so she’s she’s been with the community from from early on actually. Yeah been well, so let’s keep this going here cuz I know we’re we’re we’re burning through time at a rate that I did not anticipate but the content here is just fantastic. I could listen to all day talk about this. It’s interesting. You know, what time? Things that people talk about is you know, and and I hit on this briefly earlier this idea of motivation. Oh, I need motivation before I can lose weight. I’m I’m not feeling motivated so I can’t do this anymore. And I’m anybody who knows me knows that I hate that phrase. I hate that word immediately respond with it’s not motivation. It’s disciplined. You always come up short. How does discipline fit into this is is is that just asking too much of somebody who’s you know, dealing with these kinds of issues is that just way over simplifying it lecture me here for a minute because I I’m so good at just swinging the baseball bat and saying discipline and faith and I don’t know that that’s the right answer. I know it kind of is because the term discipline it just seems mean and it seems like you’re you’re getting in trouble and getting your hands smacked by a ruler by your teacher. That’s how I feel. I feel me and when I said, yeah, that’s exactly right, you know discipline is disciple which is a student which is the teacher to follow and so it’s kind of one of those things where we’ve got to change your mind set on the way this is but the motivation things an interesting job It’s an interesting built. I tell my my my new my new commercial come on to the team no matter what their what their addiction as well say if you and I right now went out and ran a marathon 26.2 miles would not do it and they’re all like you out of your mind. No way, but I’m like but Brian what if I put for you and you only $10,000 that’s up to you finish line. As soon as you cross it. It’s yours free doesn’t matter how long it takes you would you do it. They’re like, yeah, probably small unmarked bills on there. So it’s kind of well, so maybe not so impossible, huh? Okay, we’re all motivated by something. But in the world of addiction what I found is that once you it’s hard to get motivated and tell you have some kind of success success, I believe breeds motivation. So let’s just say that you have a small a small win small victory maybe instead of going to that fast food place at all on the way home. You say not today and you place So that is a success. I will I will tell you the first time I did that. I was inside. I mean I was fist-pumping. I’m like and I was only ten feet past the Wendy’s before I was like, oh my god did it like I did I got past and I did this. Yeah, and that that little success turned into a motivational quote I could do it then I wonder if I can do it again. And once you have those successes off the motivation starts kicking in the problem is you have to be your own cheerleader because your spouse isn’t sitting next to you applauding you for driving past that’s going to be your victory in your Victory alone. But what I found is that small 6th life has been turned into that fire for motivation to turn into an inferno. So I I think that we don’t give ourselves enough credit for some of those smaller victories when you’re standing in line and all the candy bars are staring at like not today and you go through there. To me is a success. So we capitalize on even this Paula success and show progression. I also leave motivation is short-lived. No that so it is for me. So when you do have motivation, that’s the time that you set plans in order. That’s the time that you start working on a goal. You know, you start creating habits Because by the time that dies down that motivation gets lower and lower. Hopefully you have some habits going to keep it going and I’m going to say one more time if you if you have not I know you guys have but for those who are listening if you have not listen to the podcast we did on discipline motivation and habit, please go listen to it because it will completely reframe the way you think about those days you don’t feel motivated and it will also completely reframe the way you think about building habits. There’s this old thing where people say, oh if you do it for 30 days in a row, it builds a habit that it doesn’t work now. It’s in fact, it’s not even it’s not even close to how it works that that phrase just drives me insane cuz that you know habits are based on rewards right your reward center is what causes you to build Habits song. We don’t necessarily need to get into that here you touched on it briefly earlier, but in in the podcast that I did with you, you you said one sentence that has been replaying in my mind hundreds of times and I keep thinking about this and I keep working on this and in the context of weight loss and Jared I’ve set it to you down and that was you said and I’m going to paraphrase. I hope I get this right you’re the average of your five closest friends. Did I get it? Right is that is that we said, can you talk about that in the context of weight loss because I think so many people feel alone in their weight loss Journey or feel like they’re the only one that cares whether or not this works and that’s it part of what causes their motivation to die as they look around and go. Well. Nobody else is doing this like what am I doing here talk about that phrase and what it means and and how people can use that to their benefit dead. It’s a big deal. I mean everytime Marissa and I have really tried to an essay tried as if it’s easy trying to buckle down even in our own like diet and nutrition and whatnot. But you know, we are two of six people in this home. And so the kids are like, we’re not eating that and when they come home with the food and all the sense of what’s past what’s easy? It’s like well, you know the average of the five people it takes incredible amount of effort to build your team around you’ve gotta have and that’s why I’m glad exactly philosophy as you’ve gotta have a team of people that that that got your back. If you’re the team captain on court, you gotta know that you pass the ball to you to your teammate that they’re they’re going to score pass the ball, but if you’re playing with with for lumps, then you’re want to play like a lump. It’s just the way that it goes and said it’s it’s so important for you to understand that even if you try your hardest you’re the average of the five people that you that you spend the most time with and so we talked a lot about birth. Shooting your resources and sometimes your team that can’t be family. It’s gotta be a very tight support group. That’s one reason why I think that it to athletes flourish is because they’re no-nonsense only twelve steps would have sponsors thought where you call them in case of the need wanted to athlete if if you aren’t need help the team goes to you. They’re like grab your shoes were going for a walk. We went for a hike we’re going to go do something. It changes the situation the the perspective and everything. So if you are an environment where people are like, oh, you know what you can’t have the birthday cake, but we’ll have it. You know, I love the term right here in in in the addiction World, which you hang around a barber shop long enough to get a haircut around long enough. You’re buying the donut know, it’s true though. It’s because it’s because in the bakery the only kind of people there are the people who are eating donuts and eventually you say everybody else is eating a donut. I it must not be that bad. Exactly absolutely. So it is crucial. So it really does take a lot of work for your family together. Attitude because they’re not into it, you know, they’re kind of like well, I don’t want to eat rabbit food. I want something with substance in it. Right? And so it’s hard but I think once you kind of established that course home and explain why it’s important and make changes like that slowly you guys the reason why most of these things fail is because we try to dive into it too fast, or you know, you’ve gotta you gotta pace yourself just like Marathon you don’t the gun doesn’t go off you don’t care, you know French bread like a bat out of you know, where to get to the Finish Line you’ve got to pace yourself, but I feel like that has to happen even in this kind of a situation or else you’ll give up. It’s it’s hard to the learning curve with food and nutrition. It’s pretty tough learning curve is a very steep learning curve to like simplifying but for some people it’s like a geometry or something. No, no no and and and and you gotta you gotta understand this is this is the number one problem. I think with weight X that also happens to be its biggest strength of the problem. Is this the learning curve Steep the strength is if you’re willing to endure that learning curve, you will actually understand how and why it works and that’s something that none of the other programs are going to give you right they they literally want you addicted programmed by not telling you how it works so that you don’t have any other choices. That’s the problem with the 12 Steps. You’re addicted to the twelve-step program, right? Yeah, and I come to reliant on them. So what’s the answer to life? I mean if you’re the average of your five closest friends, by the way, I love the term you use just a second ago, which is build your team. But your Tim together that’s going to be with you. What do you do? You have to fire your friends? I mean, what else do you do this? Like like what I talked about is I mean don’t get me wrong in the world of of say substance use disorders and whatnot. There are times in have to and and wait then pause. I want to say that one more time and I want you to say that very slowly because I need people to understand what you just said world in the world of substance disorders, you know addiction will talk about drugs and alcohol. And it’s your food addiction is causing the same kind of problem. Sometimes you have to distance yourself from the people that will support you. Now again, coach blue looks all turn out careful cuz we’re not telling you to get a divorce really careful with this here. But yeah, but but but keep going. I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to interrupt super emotional because if I didn’t detach from my very like like very often dysfunctional family system. I wouldn’t have made it and that was one of the hardest things is that they were still going down my family my mother and my siblings are all going down the path of addictions and I thought that was my life and I sort of took out of it they were like, where do you think you’re going and just like with crabs in the basket of the crabs try to climb out one will speedily grab it and pull it down pause for a second family did to me and to build a new team. I want you to pause for just second. We got a ton of people here not everybody has their web cams on but a few people do if you’ve been in that situation where you felt like this is these two powerful thing you just said, which is you know, that that dog In the pot as soon as you start trying to lose lose weight, how many of you guys have felt your friends and or family, you know co-workers whatever grab you and say. Whoa. Where do you think you’re going? You’re one of us get back here, right? Yeah. I see every hand is going up and one blue every hand is going up Jared. Go ahead. You know them. Well when I started losing weight and getting a more active lifestyle, it’s amazing. How quickly going back to that crap scenario how there were people pulling me out of the basket and I circle of friends that were there were into those same type of active things like going to the gym or V. I now have workout buddies to go with people. I went to lunch with we were going to the same place as cuz we were on similar diets and it’s amazing how quickly without offending anybody the the circle of friends that I spent most of my time with changed naturally. Yeah not and I completely agree with what you guys are saying with that your five. It is so important to have that and it’s amazing. Naturally happen for me. I will say I had I’ve been guilty of the other half of this and we did another podcast that I actually think everybody if if this is a topic that’s resonating with you. Please go back to it. It’s what to do when your spouse isn’t on board and one of the reasons that that podcast comes from a new unique perspective for me is I was the spouse that wasn’t on board as my wife was trying to to fix some of her issues. I was the one saying whoa. Whoa, where do you think you’re going? I just brought you home a Wendy’s frosty, right? And and she thought staring at this like what what are you doing? Like? Why? Why would you why would you do this to me? And yet it came from a place of love. I was just like I thought I wasn’t trying to be mean a lot of people look at that and think. Oh, yeah, that’s just mostly if you look at say a heroin addict and oh, yeah. Those are just bad friends. No, it’s not it’s not always they care about them. They just don’t know or understand. Or have maybe the awareness that you do that you want some change and you want something different. It’s not always a negative thing tool you back in it’s just that’s the head and what works for them testing and Naomi you just you just nailed the phrase that I think is a Telltale sign of somebody saying, you know, hey, where do you think you’re going? Even though? It’s not meant to be mean. I’m going to page here Naomi and I want you to say what you just said here What’s the phrase? I just yeah, you have to click the button there. Well, it’s either you look good. You don’t need to lose more weight or they’ll say if you lose anymore way, you’re going to be like unhealthy, right? Yeah, and does anybody smaller than you ever thought too, you know, nope and I started hearing that phrase about fifteen pounds into my journey. Now remember I had a hundred and ten pounds to lose and about fifteen pounds and I started hearing that and I was still hearing it when I was 240 when I was two twenty when I was two hundred when I got under about the two hundred mark, I’m still in the obese category at two hundred pounds. I heard it from everybody. You don’t need to lose more weight. You don’t need to lose more weight, but I did like the numbers didn’t seem why I needed to lose more weight yet Naomi. I appreciate you sharing that because that is the phrase that people seem to use that are in the where do you think you’re going category? Right? Yeah. Thank you. What a way to frame that blow. I love that. Why do you think the athlete thing is the and I’m uniquely positioned here you blue because I and I’ve talked about this on my podcast before it saved me in a lot of ways because I’m wondering about the athletes athletes thing for a minute because for me it became mutually incompatible with with let me let me back up a little bit at first and I said this before I was I started running off because I figured that if I was running I could eat whatever I wanted right that was kind of the the deal I made with myself or or or the lie that I told myself. Hey, if you’re running you you’ll be able to eat that junk food again, like you can have a back and what actually happened was I started actually really like running and what I found was that if I ate like crap the running sucked in other words, I went from running so I could eat off and one day a switch flipped and now I was eating so that I could run right? I actually I actually was eating healthy because it made my running better. I don’t know if this ties in or not, but I would love to hear why you should feel so stressed you feel so strongly about it that you’re named your organization addict to athlete why is the athlete components such as why is that the substitute for I this why that versus piano playing when Not play the Vienna. We have an act artist program 200. You just just hearing you just hearing you describe that bracket kind of emotional because it’s it’s not something that a lot of us don’t believe we can do and it’s so overwhelmingly achievable if you’ll put in just a little effort when I first started this program. Um, my boss is where I start the program where like, are you sure you want to do this either the most unhealthy people known to man when users and drug addicts and smokers and I’m like, I’m sure it’s CPR certified. I think I can handle it to hit the deck but I was terrified that in a hurt one of them. It happened like this, but there was one time we were running early on in our Inception and were running with it running with this girl. Her name is Janise and I’m running with Jenise and she’s like coach I gotta stop and I’m like no, let’s go to the corner and we’re about you know, maybe Twenty Yards away from the corner and as we approached the Corner Pub. As if she didn’t slow down, so I said Jimmy’s let’s let’s run to that pickup truck, which is about halfway down the block and she’s like do we run that pick up and she still didn’t slow down. So I’m like, how about we run to that stop sign off like, oh you’re killing me run to the stop sign them like okay to the corner and when we hit the corner, which was probably about a quarter of a mile longer than she wanted to go home. She’s HIM Tears and I’m like what? I thought oh crap. I’m getting fired. I just kill her on my athletes and she’s like started screaming. Why do I do this? Why do I do this? I am always give up myself. I know I’ve got more into take I’ve given up on my family. I’ve given up on my life. I’ve given up on my my children and she just sat there just saw and I’m like, holy crud. I believe the same principles that it takes to become a world-class athlete are the same principles. It takes to become a real fast person. It’s a variety. It’s the same discipline. It’s the same stewardship. It’s the same. It’s the same goal setting the same feeling you get when you when you you know, when you have a victory and success it plays so well with one another that you don’t have to identify yourself as an addict. That’s the reason I’m not a fan of the 12 steps. I don’t let my athletes identify themselves as addicts. They it’s a part of them but it’s not who they are. Their their fathers. Their brothers are Scholars are artists. They’re athletes India there a dog. It’s a part of them and so moving from one to another means that you no longer have to identify with that. It’s now part two of your totem pole at your building up and it’s it’s birth inspire me, you know, I I’m you’re on the verge of tears. I am too right now this you’ve mirrored my journey exactly which was you know, during my own weight loss journey. I had to reframe it. I didn’t set out to lose a hundred ten pounds. I set out to lose five pounds. Like if I figured I’d lose 5 in and we’ll see kind of how this goes and I lost five and you know, you eventually get to a point when the when the Cravings home. So strong, right and believe me I have had those days where yeah, it was all I could think about and I would just say look if I could just get through the next 15 minutes. I’m going to be okay with you focus on the one minute number one and then you worry about minute number two and then worry about minute number three and I’m telling you it is not easy. I mean it takes everything you have to get through that and eventually get to a point where I don’t have to focus on it by the minute. You can do it by the hour if I can just get through the next hour without caving I’m going to be okay and then you get to a point where you can do it by the day. I only have to do this for today and then I’m going to be okay, you know people ask me all the time. How do you how do you run five miles every single day? Like, how do you do that? I’m like, I don’t have to run five miles a day. I only have to run five miles today. That’s it and not worry about tomorrow. Tomorrow. Tomorrow is a whole different problem for me. I’ll figure it out then but for now, my only problem is five miles today, and you know what blue I’ve been there in marathons to where I say continue in Marathon wage. Not really you I’m at mild eighteen and you’re and you’re done in the tank is empty and you don’t know what you’re going to do. But but you didn’t come that far wage only get that far, right and the weight loss Journey works the same way. You did not come this far to only get this far and I got to tell you who have had that talk in my head where I’ve said. You know, what all I have to do is take 10 more steps. If I can just get ten more steps, then I’ll allow myself to quit and you know what when you get through those next ten steps you go. I might have ten more in me. I might be able to do ten more and you do 10 a.m. And guess what? There’s another 10 in there somewhere and you keep doing that and pretty soon you’ve gone twenty six miles and it’s pretty freaking amazed ultramarathons that way of just like I’ve got to run back that bush. Right? Right, but if you focus on the ultra-marathon, you know, these Hundred Mile races, whatever it is, they’re impossibly pure static. I have never stood on the starting line of a marathon and thought And do this not once and I’ve completed 16 of them, but I tell you all you have to do is worry about the next couple of steps. That’s it part of that process is that most of the athletes specifically on the team where they start doing this they’re always afraid of coming in last and cheese, you know emotional. I tell you what coming in last just coming in. That’s it. You know what I mean? It’s it’s the best and

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Some registered dietician who just, I don’t know if Quito killed her uncle, like in his sleep or, or what, but man, she was not a fan of this diet. And the interesting thing about the article was that as I, as I read it once and just kind of thought that that was the weirdest thing I’ve ever read. And then I read it again and I went, oh my gosh, there is not a single true statement. Like in the entire article she was, she didn’t even know the difference. Well, we’ll get into it. We’ll get into it. Needless to say, the lady was an idiot and I’m just going to leave it at that. It spawned a kind of a conversation on man. There are. So there’s so much bad information out there on the key to genic diet. Um, there are, there’s a lot of fearmongering out there. There’s people who kind of here, you know, that it’s one thing. And so they run around screaming how unhealthy it must be a. But in spite of all of that, in spite of the fear mongering that’s going on, I got to tell you like more and more and more people are jumping on board this thing. And I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. If there was a weight loss pill that could do everything, the ketogenic diet does a, it would be worth billions of dollars because it truly is a, it’s a pretty incredible revolutionary way to lose weight or lose weight. So let’s get into this. We have a couple of things that I want to do today. Um, the first one is we have 33 things related to the Keto Diet and we’re calling it myths versus reality. So, so statements that are out there about the Keto Diet and we’re going to talk about whether they’re true or false and because we have 33 things, we’re going to go through this. It kind of a rapid fire pace, a much, much more rapidly than I think we get into topics typically on this podcast, but know that, you know, everything that we talk about has backing, um, there, there, there are studies, tobacco, everything that we’re gonna kind of quickly hit on here. the second thing that tell you is we are going to bring back the live quiz. So live trivia. So, about halfway through here, if somebody taps me or reminds me, as we get into this podcast, we’ve got a trivia question we’re going to ask you, the answer is actually from a previous podcast. I won’t tell you which one and if you get the answer correct, if you’re the first person to get the answer correct in the live chat room, we’re going to give you, I think a one year premium weightings membership is what we’ll do. So a total value of dollars, which should get people excited. Um, and then, I have a really fun, um, weight loss tip of the week, this time. So kind of getting back to our normal routine on the, on the podcast. You guys ready to dive in? Let’s do this. Okay. The only other thing that I’ll say is, as it relates to questions, because we are going to kind of go through this rapid fire. It’ll be really difficult to pause on one of these in and respond. Put your questions in any way, put them in the live chat room and we’ll pick them up at the end. And go through all the questions so just know that will, if you’ve got a question, we will definitely answer it. but we may not get to it at the exact moment that we’re on the topic. Fair enough. Let’s do this. Alright, I have a, we’re going to do this kind of, um, like game show style. So I want to, I want to cue this up, get everybody excited here. And I have a, again, 33 items we’re going to go through. Some of them are completely true. The statements that we’re going to make. Some of them are completely false. They’re complete rubbish and some of them are, they’re kind of in the middle. So as we hit each of these, I’ve got a sound effect. We’re going to play. If it’s completely true. Um, we’re gonna play this one. Alright. if it’s complete rubbish, there’s no way. What, the rumor of the myth is, is true. We’re going to play this one. All right. Oh, you know what? Those may not even be loud enough. Can you guys hear those? Okay, I’m going to turn those up a little bit. I want to make sure of it. He said, okay, here’s the completely true. There we go, and here’s the complete rubbish. All right. And, and then there’s some that are kind of in the middle, right? Where you’re like, well, you know, it’s true sometimes other times it’s not. And I searched the Internet for a, it must have been a good four minutes for something and couldn’t come up with anything. So I made my own. Here it is. Maybe it’s true. Maybe it’s true sometimes. Alright, Ken, it sounds like you’re leaving for a second. Guys. He has a cat on his lap. He is squeezing. All right, let’s dive in here. You ready for number one? The first claim about the key to genic diet. I’ve heard, I don’t know if you guys tell me if you’ve heard this. Well, the Ketogenic Diet is interesting, but the claims about Quito are just claims. There’s no science yet. We don’t know yet. Chris, what do you think? Total, complete. Absolute Bunk, right? Quito actually started. Um, it’s a derivative of the old atkins diet, which has been around for longer than me. I think. Yeah. and during that time, this has been studied extensively in labs, high quality scientific studies, huge study groups that have that, that this has been studied on athletes, regular people on and on and on and on. There is probably more science on the Ketogenic Diet, I would say, than any other type of diet out there. We know a lot about how and why this thing works. So it’s a, what’s our, what’s our conclusion here? Yeah. Yeah. If there was a lot of science on Keto. Alright, you ready for number two? Bring it. All right. You’ve heard of Keto flu, that thing you get where you don’t feel good for the first couple of days, maybe even as much as a week after you start Keto. Will. The claim is. Melanie, tell me your reaction to this. Keto flu is proof. It is proof medical proof that Keto is unhealthy, but it’s bad for you. Right? Let’s do it again. Here we go. Yeah. It’s complete bunk and the reason is because what we know is that Keto flu is actually the result of dehydration and we can get it all the reasons that it causes it, but I’m ketone flu is actually really easy to fix if you supplement with water, sodium, potassium, calcium and magnesium, all the things that are, you know, the electrolytes that you get in a proper hydration, the symptoms go away, at least that seems to be, um, what’s happening with our group and it makes sense because when you start the Keto diet, your body dumps a lot of water weight from the lack of glycogen. We don’t need to get into the details around that, but the reasons for the Keto flu are easily and well documented and we know that it’s probably not hurting you and your body actually will adjust on its own, after again a couple of days or a week. So, definitely not proof that it’s unhealthy. Alright, you ready for number three? Chris, you’ll like this one. If you’re doing Keto, you can’t eat out at restaurants. Nonsense. Just like the program where we planning what we eat and we eat what we plan. You got a plan where you’re going to and plan what you’re going to eat. My wife and I go out once a week. We’re both car boxers. No problem at all. But we planted out in advance. Yeah. And I will also say this about restaurants. I would say it’s pretty tough to walk into any restaurant and open up the menu and find options that are truly Keto friendly without doing some modification. For example. Um, if you want the Burger, you order the Burger without a bun and instead of the fries you order, you know, a side of Broccoli, right? But literally 100 percent of restaurants are willing to accommodate those kinds of, you know, basic changes, right? So the fact that you can’t eat at restaurants or that, that’s a myth. Um, that is somebody who doesn’t understand that, you know, a restaurant is willing to swap the fries for a Veggie. And also there are so few restaurants now that do not have their information on Miami. Every. Everyone has their menus online now. So no, I’ll take it a step further. There were quickly, if you go to the right restaurant, you can order meals straight off the menu with no modifications whatsoever that are 100 percent carbon or carbon friendly. It’s not a big challenge at all if you invest a little bit of time and pick a new restaurant. Yeah, there’s some restaurants that are really good at this, but I will tell you, I, you know, when I was doing, I can get to a point, you can name the restaurant and I’ll tell you what to order their there. Um, it’s just every, every restaurant has something that you can make fit even if you have to modify it slightly afraid to say, you know what, just don’t bring out the button. Yeah, yeah. Or just grab the button, set it to the side of your plate, but be no big deal. Yeah. okay. So eating out at restaurants on Keto when people say you can’t eat out at restaurants if you’re doing Keto. Not True. Alright. That brings us to the number five or number four. I’m sorry. Oh, I like this one. Um, so the claim from the Ketogenic community is that Keto improves your mood. Melanie, you, you, you did Keto for a little while. What would you, what do you think about that? I was really surprised with this one. I think with the extra fat that was in the Diet, I was a happy girl. Yeah. And by the way, I’ll say females especially tend to respond really well to the higher fat, just from an emotional standpoint. I don’t know why and I don’t necessarily know that science understands that side of it either, but we do know that there’s a hormonal response from eating extra fat that for whatever reason, females seem to require more than men and yet we seem to resist it right when we’re dieting, we think, oh, goes back to that. And by the way, one of the things that we do at [inaudible] with our macro formulas when we’re figuring out the ratios that are appropriate for you, um, gender is massively taken into account when we decide when the, when the formula picks those ratios because women frankly have very different nutritional requirements than men. Um, and if those are ignored, it never ends well. Brian’s Guinea pig a couple times. We’ve, we’ve learned a lot. I do want to be careful with this one though because there is limited science. Most of what we know about Keto improving your mood is, um, Eh, it’s pretty limited in terms of actual, like, like peer reviewed, high quality studies that have been done on this because mood is such a subjective thing. So in while I firmly believe that it’s true. I’m still going to give this one. Yeah. I don’t know. Right? I can’t point to a study that says there’s proof and slide it across the table. It doesn’t make you more sad than any other drastic lifestyle change you’re making. You know what I’m saying? I would agree with them. In fact, you’re missing the feedback loop when you’re on the Keto Diet and you’re losing weight. You’re smiling every morning when you get on the scale. This is great. It’s no wonder my mood’s going up. You’re getting more fit and more healthy. Amen to that. Yeah. But yeah. Okay, perfect. Um, okay. Number five. I actually can’t count the number of people in the medical field who have, mentioned this to me when they, when they hear the word or they hear that somebody is doing a kito diet, I’ve heard this statement, oh, those guys are going into ketosis and that is a life threatening condition and it will kill you. A starvation. Chris, what is the word they’re actually looking for? They’re thinking that they’re saying Keto acidosis, not Ketosis, right? There is a world of difference between those two conditions though. They sound very similar. They do. And they are. Yeah, they’re completely different. So you’ve got medical professionals, so you hear the word ketosis and they think back, you know, 50 years to their medical training. And the closest word that registers is ketoacidosis. Like Chris said, and this is ketosis and ketoacidosis are not the same thing. Ketoacidosis is a life threatening condition, but it can only, it’s generally, I’m not aware of any situation. Now remember, I’m not a medical professional, but I’m not aware of any situation where ketoacidosis is a threat to anybody except a diabetic. In other words, if you have a functioning pancreas, um, I’m not aware of a situation where you can end up in Ketoacidosis a and it is not caused by the same things that, um, it, it’s, it, it, it’s different from ketosis. We can do a whole podcast on this. I don’t think we need to. So the idea that could ptosis is a life threatening condition and it will kill you is nonsense. It’s not true. Okay. I like this. Next one’s interesting. Um, athletes shouldn’t do. Keto is the claim and I’m probably ever. Yeah, you guys are both looking at me. I’m probably the one with the strongest opinions on this one. Um, I am officially going to give it this. And the reason I say that is because it really depends on the type of athlete that you are. For example, ultra marathon runners who run ultra long distances for very long periods of time, and I’m talking like an ultra marathon runner. Typically we run 20 to 30 to 40 hours at once. I’m with minimal rest in between, but they go very, very, very slow while they’re doing it. Think of it. Think of it like speed walking, um, the entire time they have to conserve energy across that perspective, in that situation. Guess what most of those guys are eating. It’s Keto and the reason is because thereafter that, that unlimited supply of fuel to push them through these situations, but guess what else? Their heart rate’s not that high while they’re doing this or they would not be able to complete these 100 mile, 200 mile, um, on foot journeys that they’re doing in relatively short periods of time. As soon as your heart rate needs to go high, Keto is no longer an appropriate way or a comfortable way to fuel. You can do it. You’re going to be miserable because it’s tough, but you will eventually adapt. You’ll just never be quite as fast. So if you’re an athlete, this is where I go depends on what type of athlete you are. If you’re a company you’re trying to to reach goals that way, if that’s, if that’s what your trajectory is for being an athlete, then yeah, and I think it depends so much on what is your heart rate while you are competing, right? If your heart rate is high, you’re, you’re really pumping the whole time. Hiit, high cardio, right? Heavy Cardio. Then Keto is it? It’s okay. It’s just miserable and it’ll slow. It will slow you down a if you’re. The kind of athlete were, you know, that it’s not a high performance cardio than Ketos fine. Um, so that’s why it gets this. And we did a whole podcast on this so we don’t need to get it all the details. All right. Number seven. You ready for this one? Um, and I’m going to get an insulin because this has come up in our forums lately. It comes up in their facebook page all the time and it drives me bonkers. So I’m going to spend an extra minute on this one. You ready for the claim? Eating too much protein on the Keto Diet will knock you out of Ketosis if have you guys heard this, Chris, you’ve have you heard this? And this is the first thing that people push back on us when they see Carmex Keto, right? Because carbon is. Keto is fairly high protein, not as high as the fat still, but, but it’s pretty high, much higher than traditional Keto. And the first thing that the community says, they pointed that go, oh, too much. Too much protein that’ll knock you out of ketosis. Your body will convert it to sugar. All right, pause. I’m going to give you this one, eh? There’s some qualification here. First of all, yes, it is a fact that too much protein will knock you out of Ketosis. However, the amount of protein that you have to eat in order for that to occur would astound you. Um, it is. Those levels are way higher than what we prescribed with Carmax. Keto, way higher. The other way that it, that it can occur. And by the way, this, um, the scientific term for this is Gluconeogenesis, which is the conversion of protein to glucose. The other way that it can occur though is that it’s actually demand driven. In other words, if your body is completely starved of glucose and you feed it lots of protein, it will start converting the protein to glucose. So if you’re a heavy, heavy, heavy exerciser, big time athlete, and you start eating and you and you’re on the Keto diet and you eat even small amounts of protein, and I mean like even a little bit of protein, the first thing your body’s going to do is say, I need that glucose and it’ll start converting it. So it has nothing to do with the amount of glucose that your. Or I’m sorry, the amount of protein you’re eating, it’s demand driven. If your body is demanding glucose and it can’t produce it fast enough, yes, it will start converting protein into glucose. But even if you’re eating a tiny amount, so the carbon is Keto, ratios are not going to cause you to convert protein into glucose ever. Right? And even if you’re, well, if you’re an athlete, they might, but in that case, um, regular traditional Keto will cause the same thing. Chris, did that make sense for those people that understood what you’re saying about everyone else’s mud? All right. We’ll go with the mud anyway. eating too much sugar in carbon. It’s a nonissue bottom line that I forgot who was in maintenance and is fit and buff and really pushing it. Yeah. Maybe we want to talk with you and have a little consultation maybe. Yeah, I, yes. That’s a good way to put it. So, so I was, as far as that claim goes, I’m like, no, no, technically yes. But the qualifications are important. Alright. I love number eight on our list. You Ready? I hear this claim all the time. Keto is great, but it’s not a sustainable lifestyle. What do you think of that, Chris? I would argue that I’ve been doing kito more or less for the last 10 years. Yeah, I think it’s extremely, extremely sustainable. You can do it for, for years and years and years. That’s a great lifestyle for them. What do you think? I think absolutely. You think it is sustainable as a lifestyle? Yeah. Okay. I actually, I’ve. Okay, so I’m going to be the dissenting vote on this one. Hey, wait, I have a caveat though. Okay. Go ahead. If you plan. I think the thing that, that I think that most people miss on Kido, everybody talks about, well, I don’t get the fresh fruits and veggies fresh, you know, the veggies and I think if you’re, if you’re careful with what you, what you plan. I think when you just. Did you accept the things that you can eat on Kido is vegetables and very limited fruit. Yeah. Sustainable. Yeah. I agree. So Mrs. where I’m going to give the. Because if you are. First of all, I don’t think anything is sustainable longterm. If you truly say I’m going to give up this entire class of food forevermore. Right? Couldn’t agree with you more. I wonder if that’s in. Come on. Nobody’s gonna do that, right? Nobody’s going to give up a bread for the rest of their lives. Right. You can give it up 99 percent of the time, but every once in awhile you’re going to have some bread and, and that’s normal and that’s okay. Especially once you reach your goal weight, right? If you’re trying to do Keto as a lifestyle, um, I just think you plan in cheat meals and I think that’s okay. And this is where I kind of give you the, the, the, you know, you can eat Keto as a lifestyle, as long you plan in, hey, you know what, once a month, I do have chips and salsa, right? Oh, I forgot about chips and salsa. No, but hopefully my point is clear. Is it sustainable as a lifestyle? I think so with that qualification of look, you know, once you’re in maintenance there’s nothing wrong with finding a little bit of. Yeah, balance there. Um, and and we’re going to talk more about some of these others, um, in terms of what maintenance actually it looks like. And did you know, I’m going to tease one of my later numbers here. Did you know there are people who, who eat ketosis or who eat ketogenic diets, who have never been overweight and are not overweight and they still eat heat agentic diet on purpose. We’re going to talk about why the super interesting history of Ketosis. Yeah. Alright. okay. I like number 10 a lot. this one’s worthy of a little bit of discussion. Um, the rumor is that you will lose muscle mass on the Keto Diet. Oh, you forgot number nine. Oh, did I? Oh, I don’t want to forget number nine. All right. I’m sorry. We’re going to come to like, oh, let’s swap them around. We’ll just put them. Okay. So number nine, you will lose muscle mass on the Keto Diet. Yeah. You guys are both looking at me again because I’m the one that screamed so loud about this sometimes. Yeah, I can. You can put yourself in a state where that does happen. Yes. But on our diet, I think it would be mighty hard. And I think the way this is worded is funny because if it said you can lose muscle mass on the Keto Diet, might say, yeah, you absolutely can. Ah, definitely will. No, no, no, I don’t think you, you, you definitely, I mean, it really comes down to a couple of things. One, if you’re exercising and doing any kind of strength training, it doesn’t matter what your ratios are, you’re not going to burn muscle mass because your body, um, will feel like it needs the muscle that you have. So that’s number one, that’s how you preserve muscle mass on a traditional Kito Diet. How do you preserve muscle mass? If you don’t want to do strength training, Karbachs Keto, you eat more protein. It’s really that simple. And that’s where the [inaudible] Keto is designed around, is making sure that you preserve as much muscle mass as possible while you’re still being able to stay in Ketosis, to burn fat for energy. So, um, as long as you’re doing carbon Keto, you’re not going to burn. You’re not gonna burn muscle mass. all right, you ready for the one we skipped? All right, well now 10, 10, the rumor is, and I’ve actually heard this even from a lot of people on the Ketogenic Diet, say, Oh, I’m doing Keto, I can’t drink alcohol, or Oh yeah, you can’t drink alcohol on the Ketogenic Diet. Is that true? Yeah, I’m going to give it that one. I’m going to give it that one. Depends what you drink and how much of it, like any other part of your diet. Yes, that’s exactly right. A lot of people have this perception when they think of alcohol as, you know, a glass of wine or you know, the, the, the kind of drinks that have a little umbrella in them, you know, they’re super, super sweet. Just cruises. Exactly. You know, your, your opinion Colada. Yeah. Yeah. That’s gonna. That’s got so much sugar in there. Do you know how many calories are in data? I found out like a, like a regular size Pina Colada on a, on a resort, like 800 calories in a Pina Colada. I couldn’t believe it. So they’re, they’re, they’re, they’re basically pure sugar. Um, yeah. If you avoid the sugary drinks, and by the way, wine is typically, well red wine. Red Wine is usually pretty sugary. It really depends on the variety of lane. Okay. Some have less sugar. Alright. as long as you avoid the sugary stuff, um, you’re probably okay. But I will also tell you that alcohol itself, alcohol is a macronutrient, will not knock you out of Ketosis. So if it’s straight a vodka straight, ever clear, straight gin straight. Um, what are the other clear alcohols? Tequila? A straight Tequila, right? I’m straight. I’m trying to think of what, what are the other clear one? The, the stuff where there’s it, it is just alcohol, right? Those are fine. There’s no sugar in those and as long as you avoid the sugar, you’re going to be fine and you go, Ooh, gross. I don’t want to drink straight alcohol. Just put a, like if you’re a vodka drinker, put vodka and soda water and then, you know, add some lemon juice or something. Um, and I’m sure it still tastes super gross, but you know, it is at least a way to get it done. And there’s no sugar in it, so you should be fine. Um. Alright. So alcohol on Keto. The wind says you can’t drink alcohol and Keto, if you can write just, you have to be very picky about what you drink. All right. You’re also an awful lot of low carb beers on the market now. Oh, actually this stuff, you know, one, two, three carbs. A beer. Yeah, that’s a good point. Now you still have to watch the calories in the alcohol because alcohol itself still as calories. But that’s true. There are now like this whole line of Keto friendly beers out there. I’ve heard about this. I can’t imagine they taste good, but I, I guess if that’s, you know, you’re trying to sneak something in. I guess that would work right. It’s just the light carb. Okay. Okay. All right. Yeah, that makes sense. I guess Keto, Moonshine is her, answered all of this and, and carries laughing at my reference to everclear. Hey, I’m just giving you the facts. I’m not telling you what he’s not saying. He has a stockpile of a. all right, let’s move on here. Um, and then we’re going to do one more and then I want to, then we’ve got a couple more here. All right. The next one I’ve heard, I hear this occasionally, um, and it’s, you should only stay on Keto for short periods of time. let’s go. Chris, disagree, in my opinion, didn’t. I’ve never had anybody actually lane this to me and not in any way that made any sense whatsoever other than they use weird terms like, oh, it causes damage to your, I’ve heard damaged your liver. I’ve heard damage to your kidneys. I’ve heard damage to your. I’ve heard everything and none of them are here. I’m just going to do this. Yeah, there is zero evidence that being on a ketogenic diet long term has any negative effects whatsoever. Um, at least we’ll get into some of this other stuff, but being on a longterm. Yeah, I dunno. I would say a ketogenic diet works best when it’s longterm. Yeah, it was really. You’re going to get the real. I think that’s the whole point of a Ketogenic Diet, right? Is it doesn’t really for 90 days. Give it a year, give it to you or see what happens to you. Yeah, because what you’re after is that fat adaptation process, right? You’re trying to force your body to get energy from fat and that actually takes a while to force it to say at a certain point your body goes, okay, I guess this is how we’re doing this. I guess you’re not going to feed me glucose anymore, so I’m going to have to figure out a way to get it on my own and it will literally start converting fat into glucose. We’re going to talk more about that in a second. let’s see. That was number 12. I want to go back to diabetes. I see. I’m terrible as. Oh, you have us here for a minute. We’re keeping you straight, brother. This is a good one. I’ll keep them. I hear will correct. Right. All right. I hear this one a lot. I hear this one a lot. A number of Keto can cure diabetes. Is that true? Like, like, because. Because science tells us there are no known cures for diabetes. Right? Right. The answer is, and yet everyone who’s been on Keto and his getting off their insulin and diabetes medication, raise your hand. Yeah, board. There’s a lot of folks that are diabetics that go on Kido and their life gets massively better. Yeah. So I want to be really, really, really, really careful with this claim, right? Because first of all, there, even eating, you know, a key to genic diet is not going to cure type one diabetes in any way, shape or form, right? Type two diabetes, however, um, we’ve got is cure and the word may be the wrong choice as it may be that Keto can manage diabetes very effectively. I think that can cure diabetes, improve your well, he, manages probably the right term because what we found out is that people who stick to a, a, a, a, a, a, a strict ketogenic diet have found, at least every one of them that’s in our group have found that they are eventually able to get off of their medication completely. Um, are they cured? No, I don’t think I would dare make that statement, but from their perspective, as long as they continue to eat Keto, the diabetes is completely managed without medication. That is pretty interesting. If you’re a type two diabetic, I would encourage you to take a very close look at this and by the way, most doctors who specialize in this are now recommending to their patients that they take a look at the key to genic diet as well. Not all of them have caught up to that. If you ever have a doctor tell you otherwise, I would actually seek a second opinion. I’m not trying to be your doctor. I’m not telling your doctor is wrong, but that would be something that where I would seek a second opinion because most specialists are now saying if you’re a type two diabetic, you ought to be taking a real close look at this and we’ll add a second caveat here. If you developed type two diabetes because of your weight, pure weight based diabetic, then you really, really want to be looking at going on carb backs or a ketogenic diet as a treatment because of what brought on the diabetes to begin with. Right? Right. Get rid of the weight. Right? So Keto can cure diabetes. I’m going to give it can cure diabetes is going to get. This isn’t going to cure your diabetes, however. I’m going to rephrase it. Keto can help you manage your type two diabetes. yeah, for sure. There’s so much medical evidence around this now that, that it’s, it’s a big deal. Hang on guys, don’t forget to address type one diabetes is, if you are a type one insulin dependent diabetic, you are still better off on a Keto diet then on a non kito diet because it’s going to, it’s going to reduce your insulin amount when you have to take the better. I think so too. And, and yeah, this is another situation where you really don’t need A. I’m getting into a territory where I don’t belong. Um, and I’m not afraid to admit that, but yes, there are type one. Diabetics really ought to also take a really close look at this. I’ll just, I’ll leave it at that. All right. Um, I want to switch gears. Let’s pause for a second because I want to do our, our trivia if we can. And we ready for this. All right, the trivia question. Let me pull it up. This was in a previous podcast that we talked about and I’m going to just gonna read it to you. The question, the first person to post the correct answer in the chat room is going to get a free one year, a weightings premium membership. Can’t get those fingers on right here we go. Home row. If you’re doing net carbs, which are a carbon Keto people should be doing, we learned in a previous podcast that you can subtract all of the carbs from insoluble fiber. However, that is not the case for ins, I’m sorry, for insoluble fiber. However, that is not the case for soluble fiber. How many carbs can you safely subtract for soluble fiber? Are you ready? All right, now while we wait for our. Here we go. All right. I think we have our answer. Let’s see, who was it that got, at first it was married. Mary Hunter said half of the carbs. That is correct. A nice job. Mary reminded me, please when the podcast is over, send me a private message and I will deliver your goods to you. Um, it takes me about five seconds to get you upgraded there. So send me an send me a quick message as soon as the overnights job, Mary. Yes it is. You can subtract half of the carbs for soluble fiber and I have to say that makes my heart proud because it means people actually do listen to this thing. Alright. alright, let’s keep going here. I’ve got a, we got a bunch more to get through. Um, well I like this one. I’ve had people argue with me on this one, like, like straight, like toe to toe. Like you are. Yeah, here we go. Ready? the, the, the statement is you can’t drink diet soda while you’re on Keto. Melanie, you want to take this one? [inaudible]? Um, I say false. Okay. Chris, what’s your vote? Absolutely false. I got a diet mountain dew right in front of me. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn’t seem to have any impact at all. Um, on your ketosis levels, ability to burn fat. Um, there is no studies that show that Diet soda seems to be blocking fat burn while on a Ketogenic Diet. So I’m afraid that this one, yeah, you absolutely can drink diet soda while you’re on a ketogenic diet shouldn’t, shouldn’t be a problem. with the qualification that we actually did do, we do a podcast and a blog article that walks through this in a little more detail. There is this one qualification that says that if you drink a lot of diet soda in a large number of people, not everybody, it does seem to cause sugar cravings. So while that alone isn’t a bad thing, it, that alone won’t cause you to not burn fat. You might find yourself a little bit miserable that triggers something you might want to. I don’t to make yourself miserable on purpose, but, but it doesn’t happen to everybody. And my experience for most people is they have to be drinking quite a bit of it before that becomes an issue. So. Oh, oh, my favorite one is, are you ready for, for soapbox central for a minute. All right. Number 14, there are supplements you can take that will help you get into ketosis faster. They’re also known as exogenous ketones. There it’s stuff you can drink. Typically a, you there are typically sold through Mlms, multilevel marketing companies. you buy this stuff, it’s in powder form. You put it in your, your drink or your protein shake or whatever, and it helps you get into ketosis faster or you know, it’ll, if you, if you had a cheat meal, you know that morning, but you use these supplements that it invalidates the cheap mail. And suddenly you’re in Ketosis. Again, if. Have you guys heard of this extensively? Yeah. so the question is, do they work? Melanie? We experimented with these. Do you remember this? I went and bought tons of different brands of these, tons of different types, some that work different ways than others. The laughter, filling the chat room right now is awesome because I thought, you know, if there’s anything to this, I kind of want to know, first of all, I want to be very, very, very clear on one thing. There are zero, there is zero scientific evidence to support the claims from the supplement companies that they can get you back into ketosis right now. What I wanted to know is where are these claims coming from? Right. So we experimented with you a little bit on these and I bought a lot of these and they are not cheap by the way. Um, they’re extremely expensive and so we tried them out and I’ll let you summarize it in as few words as you can it. They did nothing at all. Nothing at all. Like, like didn’t eat nothing. Yeah. They had no impact whatsoever. A what not a fan of the anal suppositories by the way. I’m just kidding. There aren’t any of those. Yeah. What they actually do, because you know, there’s people out there who swear by them and if you read the reviews on them, you would think that everything I’m saying is wrong. What they do is they trigger a false positive on a ketone test. and so if you drink these, they actually do contain ketones and, and they get into your system and a couple of things happen. First of all, they do trigger that false positive on the pee test. So if you, the, the Ketone Test where you pee on the stick and the color changes. So basically you’re drinking ketones, your pinky toe. Yeah, it goes right through you. And so, um, somebody will sit down and they’ll eat a candy bar which would knock you out of instantly. And then four hours later, six hours later they do a ketone test and it says you’re no longer in ketosis. And then they drink the supplement, right? And then two hours later they do the test again and it says, you’re in Ketosis and you go, oh my gosh, I can eat carbs and stay in ketosis. Not quite while it’s doing its. Yeah, you’re, you’re, you’re drinking ketones, so your p and ketones and you’re fooling the test. You’re not at. Your liver is not producing ketones in that scenario right there. That’s the stuff you drank, so you’re not in ketosis. A, it does. Another interesting thing, and there’s a professor down at Byu right now who’s studying this in great detail and some of the science and studies that he’s producing a really worth paying attention to because by the way, Provo, Utah, where Byu is, is the capital of the exogenous ketone supplement world right now. just interesting that they happen to coincide, but the research that he’s doing is showing that not only do they not put you in Ketosis, but if you are in Ketosis, if you’re doing everything right and you take the supplements, it will actually block fat burn. Go right. Because what happens is your body no longer needs the will no longer. It no longer needs the energy from the ketones that your liver is producing, so it stops producing them. Your body literally stops producing fat or stops burning fat because you’re drinking energy. You with me? It no longer needs it. Carrie on says he’s studying her. Oh, interesting. That’s so cool. Um, yeah, that’s very, very interesting. Yeah. You’re now burning their ketones and not your ketones. And so, if please don’t waste your money on these, please don’t waste your money. Don’t get pulled into the, the hype on these. The people who claim that they’re working do not understand the Diet. They’re there. They do not understand the false positives. Just just stay away from them. They’re a complete waste of money. Like most things that mlms are selling. How’s that for the hip right there? If it’s coming from an Mlm, generally speaking aboard it beat ultra cautious because it either doesn’t work or it does work, but it’s massively over, probably over priced right and there is there. I’m not aware of anything. I don’t know that those are the only two categories I’m aware of. All right, so the, the idea that you can take a supplement that will help you get back into ketosis faster or that you can use exogenous ketones to help you is, I wish I could play that like 25 times in a row for that one. All right, let’s go to number 15 here. People who lose weight on Keto, just gain it all right back. Don’t know. What do you think, Chris? If you go on a hardcore Keto Diet, let’s say you go on garbage for 90 days and you lose your 10 percent and then you go off the Diet and start eating whatever you want. Yes, you will gain it right back and that goes for any diet that you’re on and you end the Diet. If you start pounding down the big macs and the fries and the chocolate shakes, guess what? It’s all going to come right back. I can’t hack how many times I’ve heard this, like I did this diet, I lost all this weight, and then I stopped doing it and I gained all the weight back and I’m like, well, did you go back to women? Like what did you do differently after you got off the Diet? I just went back to what I was doing before. Well, yeah, that’s how it works. Um, yeah. And, and I wouldn’t necessarily say that Keto is any more or less. I’m sensitive to that, but I will say this, as soon as you go off of the Keto Diet, you’re going to gain five or 10 pounds literally within a day or two. Why is that? Well, it’s because now you’re eating carbs in your body requires water to process those carbs, and so it’s going to hold onto it. You remember when you started the Keto Diet and you lost five or 10 pounds in like three days. Remember that? Yeah. When you go off the Diet, you have to pay that back. And so that’s why there’s this perception of, oh, as soon as you go off Keto, you’re going to gain 10 pounds. Well, yeah, but you didn’t gain 10 pounds of fat, right? You just went off Keto. Eight tons of sugar in your body overreacted to that, and now you’re holding on. Now you’re, you know, you’re swollen, your walking around with a ton of water, your body will regulate that. It does it eventually, it eventually levels out in. The best way to do it is to kind of slowly introduce the carbs and and the water weight gain will be slow and it’s not going to overreact and all this stuff. But you do gain some water weight back when you go off Keto. There’s no question about it, but it’s not fat. Right, right. Okay. so the idea that people who lose weight on Keto, just gain it all back. I’m going to give it this one. I’m sorry. No more so than any other diet out there. I don’t think it’s, it has nothing to do with Keto, right? All right. what about this one kid hostess can cause dangerous levels of dehydration. Well, if you never drink water while you’re on, that’s probably true. Not Drinking Water can cause dangerous levels of dehydration. You know what I’m going to do with this one? Actually, I’m, I actually think this is true. Um, it’s, it’s completely manageable, right? One drink more water, but yeah. Um, when you stop eating carbs, your body starts dumping water, it overreacts to the, to this and dumps end dumps, end dumps water, and that’s where your initial five, 10 pounds of weight loss comes from and is your body is dumping water. You do become dehydrated. That’s what Keto flu is. So how do you solve it while you drink water and you supplement with the things that your body is dumping, it’s sodium, potassium, magnesium, calcium supplement with those in you, like a lot, like, a lot more than you think you do. So for some people, not everybody. This can be way worse than for other people. So watch this as you start the Diet. If you don’t feel good, if you’ve got a headache, if you feel nauseous, if you feel sick, you’re probably massively and you probably ought to, you know, fix that. Um, most people that I know on the Keto diet claim to feel better if they are supplementing with electrolytes in some way. And I don’t mean gatorade by the way, I mean like a lot more electrolytes than gatorade has. So that is a good indication that people on the key to genic diet are probably a little bit dehydrated just because they’re not eating carbs and therefore there’s not as much water on board as there normally would be. Um, is it dangerous? Not if you manage it right. You know, what’s happening? I wouldn’t say it’s dangerous being brown. You have issues. Yeah. Right, right. Yeah. So you would treat that like you would treat any other kinds of dehydration, drink more water and you know, supplement a little bit if you need to. So, all right, let’s go on here. Oh, I like this one. Here’s the claim. You will always have low energy if you’re doing Keto. It was just always feel like, you know, just tired all the time because you’re not eating carbs. And so, you know, and as everybody knows, carbs are the only source of energy out there. Right? Chris, you’ve been doing this for awhile, you feel pretty sluggish most of the time. No, I’d say quite the contrary, especially if you’re coming in to Keto, is a large guy or a large woman, as you start to drop that weight in Keto, you start to feel better. You start to have more energy, more mental clarity, and all the indicators going in the opposite direction. Yeah, it’s a total win win situation for most people. In fact, again, this is one of those things where the studies are a little bit anecdotal because you have to ask people how they feel like, do you have more energy? Well, and you know, that’s hard to gauge sometimes, but there are studies in mice that show that when they feed my key to genic diet, that their activity level does go up, which is super interesting when you think about it. Now it takes a while to get there. They, the mice need several weeks to become fat adapted. But at the end of several weeks period, most of the mice and these studies are showing an increased level of activity from the change in the, um, in the eating super interesting. I think. So the idea that, if you eat a ketogenic diet, you will have low energy. No, maybe at first, at first that’s probably true, but, but longterm, no way. No Way. Fat is actually your preferred source of energy for day to day activity and your, your body would just much rather have that. You’ve just got to teach it that that’s what it has to do. A, should we pause for a second and do what was the other thing we were going to do here? Oh, the weight loss tip of the week. Yeah, let’s do this. Hang on. I gotta I gotta I gotta think for this. Oh, weight loss tip of the week like this, you know, the best part about that sound effect I think is that people who donate to wait x, no, for sure, that their money is not being spent to produce a quality podcast. Super, super clear that the money is maybe. Yeah. so your weight loss tip of the week, are you ready for this? Um, so many people when they start a new, a new approach to weight loss and new diet and new, anything they don’t want to tell anybody and they keep it really quiet because they’re embarrassed, right? Um, and I get that. I truly do, but I’m going to tell you this, my wait list for the week. I want you to go tell freaking everybody that you are on a diet. Now, why would I give that advice? Any ideas? I think so if, if people around you know that you are working toward a goal, they’re going to be more conscious about not tempting you, right? And they’re going to be more careful about what they, what they do around you, what they say around you, and then it’s going to help you out a lot. I think it does too. I think you’re actually, when you tell people that you’re doing this, you’re, you’re, you’re literally subconsciously. You don’t even say the words, but you’re asking for their support, right? You’re asking for their help. Hey, I’m doing this thing. This is how I’m doing it. You’re going to get a lot of opinions to ignore the opinions because they’re going to start, and this is what we’ve talked about before. You’re gonna get a lot of weight loss advice from overweight people. Don’t listen to them, um, ignore that part. But what you’re after is the accountability with them right now. And it’s, it’s, it’s two way, right? The first thing is just like you said, Melanie, they’re going to be way more conscious about, you know, when, when it’s donut Tuesday at the office, they’re going to, they’re probably still going to be polite and offer you a donut, but they’re also going to be very understanding when you say no. Right? Right. Ah, that’s the first part, right? The second part is when you do say no, are you going to feel weird? No, no. In fact if you say yes, you’re going to feel weird. And it felt like that because everybody there in the office knows your trying to lose weight and if you say yes to the donut, what kind of, yeah, we’re going to jump. Do you look like then? Right. So yeah, I think, I think letting other people in on this is a really good way to hold yourself accountable because nobody wants to look dumb in front of their friends and coworkers and family, right? Let them know, here’s what I’m doing, here’s how I’m doing it. Um, and, and, and, and when you are tempted in front of them, you’re never going to be tempted in front of them. At least not a not. It will drastically reduce the temptation, let’s just put it that way. Right? So I, I liked it. Yeah. Jason says, once people knew I was sugar free, they quit feeding me and they started watching everything. I ate a, it’s true. All you have to do is say, no, I’ve given up sugar. And I guarantee you before somebody hands you a donut, they’ll say, oh, Jason, you want to, oh, oh, probably not. These have quite a bit of sugar in them. No, no problem. I’ll, you know. And they start being really conscious about it. In fact, if you go out to lunch with coworkers and they know you’re a diet, guess who gets to pick where you go to lunch? Generally they defer to the to you like, Hey, you’re, you’re the one you know, and they’re not trying to be rude. They’re trying to be nice and hey, what? Where would you like to go? Where can we make work for you? But what a great position to be in, right? A guy at work took my cookie away and threw it in the garbage. Says, Jensen, this is what I’m talking about, right? Yeah. That’s a good friend, right? When you let people know that you have a goal and you’re working on it and you’re working hard for it, they’re going to help look out for you. Right? And I’m, I’m. That’s your weight loss tip of the week. Tell everybody, right? Your family, your friends, your coworkers, let them know. Can I expand on that please? One more good thing that happens when you’re on a diet and you’re trying to get fit and you let people around you know that you’re trying to get fit. Those that are fit will encourage you and support you and help you because they want more people that are fit and those that you associate and hang out with tend to be who you are. If you want to be fit, you want to hang out and associate with people who are fit, not with people who are overweight. You’re going to change the makeup of your social group if you’re going, if you’re looking to lose 50 or 75 or 100 pounds, guess what? You’re going to be needing a couple of new friends and you’re likely to make some new friends on your journey. There’s a whole podcast right there. That is fantastic. That is, that is a deep topic that has got some real emotional attachments to it for some people. Um, because there are concepts in there like, are your friends intentionally sabotaging you? And guess what? I’ll bet some of them are, um, they don’t want you to succeed because if you succeed, they look bad. At least that’s how they view it. This is a documented psychological scenario, right? Um, the other half of that. So some of your friends are gonna. See you starting to have success, you know, once you’ve lost 15, 20, 25 pounds and they start to notice it. Oh yeah. They’re gonna start asking you, what are you doing? How can I do it? Yup. Is the you did it. Those are your good friends. That means yeah, well maybe I can do it too. You know, those are your good friends, right? Absolutely. I’ve had several of those in my journey that has decided to join me. It’s like, hey, you know, okay Chris, I saw you last 50 slash 60 pounds. Tell me more. Yeah, yeah. Now there’s a whole podcast we need to do on this and I really actually do want to get into this and. But that, that’s going to be an emotional one for me. And, and I think for others because just like you say, Chris, I, I have a very different socials or melanie. I have a very different social circle now than I did when I was bigger. And people that I thought were my good friends. I don’t like being around fit and healthy. I’m not because of anything I was doing differently, but because of it’s, it’s sort of this reminder of the fact that they’re not, and that’s not supposed to be that way. Right? No, there’s nothing intentional about it. It’s just, it’s just, I think it’s a reminder. They, they feel like it’s just hard. They feel like it’s hard for them and, and, and it’s too bad and it’s sad. And I, I. Anyway. All right. Well this guy dark. This is reliable. It is, it is. Yeah. Jason, you know, when you lose a hundred pounds, your social change. Do you want to do, are different now you’re, you’re strong and you’re healthy and you’re fit and you want to get outside. You don’t want to sit on the couch anymore. Watch TV. When you start having major body changes, your life changes. We look at you. You are, you’re 100 pounds ago. You were a different guy. Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. And I think physically and mentally, socially, I’m, I’m, I’m, I’m, I think completely different than I than I was when I met you. The only running you would do is to the xbox to get another ice cream. Well, yeah, but it was more like a, like a, like a brisk walk because I was kind of a lumber. Yeah. Yeah. What Melanie and I joke that I used to run quarter keys to the mailbox and that that was false. Yeah. Alright. I played the wrap up sound. We got involved. We got to keep this on track. Okay. What was the last one? We did a low energy. Low Energy. We’re on. Oh, we’re on 18 now. Okay. This one’s a good one. This one’s a good one. The claim from the Keto community. Remember some of these. I love this because half of these claims come from outside the community and half the claims come from inside the Keto community. One of the claims that the Keto community likes to make is that Keto will make you smarter. Have you heard this, Chris? Yes, absolutely. Yeah, I agree with it. I think there’s a mental fog that comes with weight and is the weight comes off and the Keto kicks in. I do think. You think clearly. Okay. Melanie, I goes back to that fat for me when I have a higher, higher fat diet, it seems like I have better mental clarity. Yeah. I’m going to tell you this, as it relates to this, um, the ketogenic diet is now all the rage in silicon valley among silicon valley executives. These are typically not people who need to lose weight. They’re typically not in it to shed pounds. They’re not in it for weight loss purposes. So why on earth are they? So they’re not epileptic. They don’t have any medical conditions, diabetic or not diabetic. There’s, they’re, they’re not doing it for medical reasons. And so why, why all the rage? And the answer is it relates to this one. it is, it is becoming trendy to eat this way among these kind of smart, you know, a progressive thinkers because they believe it makes them smarter. They also believe, and I’m gonna, go back to the one that we did before, that it gives them significantly more energy. Um, claims from these guys. And again, this is just anecdotal stuff, but the claims from them are things like, you know, the afternoon crash has gone at 3:00 PM, I’m just as productive as I was at 10:00 AM, um, and they believe that it’s making them smarter and the brain fog that they didn’t even know they had is gone and that they’re thinking more clearly. And so this is all the rage right now. It’s, it’s the biggest, biggest new trend. I will tell you there’s, that this is very, very difficult to study in terms of, you know, makes you smarter. Like how do you, how do you build a study that shows that a ketogenic diet or smarter than somebody else. Um, especially because you would need to know, you know, I mean, do you give them a puzzle to solve before and after? It’s very, it’s very tricky to study. Um, and this is fairly cutting edge. This is a fairly cutting edge claim. I will tell you though, there are studies done on mice where it is fairly easy to measure intelligence in mice. And once again, the studies are confirming that mice who eat a ketogenic diet are able to solve problems quicker and more efficiently than my students who do not. I don’t know about you that you can prove the thing on the afternoon crash though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That should be, that’s absolutely hardcore fact. I suspect that it is to a. But if any of these claims are true, and by the way even just claimed that a mouse know mice are able to, ah, improve their ability to problem solve by eating a ketogenic diet. I realized that’s not a human test, but that’s damn interesting, right? That, that there is something going on, um, at the brain level when you switched to this style of eating. It’s super interesting. And so this idea that um, Keto can make you smarter. I am going to go here. I, I think so. I think there’s a little more reactive. Less. Yeah. I think this is legit. I really do. And I think there’s enough evidence to back it up. Lord. Smarter is kind of subjective. It’s still a little subject, maybe a little sharper increases mental acuity. I think that’s good. Yeah, I think that’s all fair. Um, all right. Number 20 a Oh, number 19. I’m sorry. This one’s really interesting. So the claim from, I’ve heard this from a lot of different sources, is that Keto can help people who have epilepsy. Chris, have you heard this claim? Yes. Yeah. Back on the history of Keto. Keto came about because of epilepsy. That was the original genesis of the Diet to begin with. Had nothing to do with losing weight. Somebody figured out that if you stop eating carbs, that people who had epilepsy or seizures went away, and I’m going to tell you this now, almost. Okay. All specialists in the epileptic world are now giving them patients to treatment options. One is medication and the other is you can eat a to genic diet again now for weight loss purposes necessarily. Although for some people that’s a nice bonus, but the medical community really does back this up and there are mounds of evidence studies because this was first discovered in, I want to say the fifties or wasn’t even earlier than that. Maybe it could have been like, this was a long time ago when this was first figured out and it’s taken the medical community a long time to get on board with this because of one very important factor. They don’t know why. I have no idea why eating a key to genic diet is, um, is helping people who have epilepsy a control, um, their, their situation. So, can the key to genic diet help people with epilepsy? Absolutely. This really, if I’m on the, I’m on epilepsy.org and they’re saying it was first associated in 1920. That is incredible. So we’ve got 100 years of experience. Yeah. And it’s no wonder that Keto, going back to that very first claim of, of the Keto Diet is, you know, they’re just claims it hasn’t, there’s no science. There’s a hundred years of science right there now, behind this thing. And that’s why I continue to say it is probably the most well studied diet and in history. Um, so the idea that there’s no science behind it as well. It’s all right. But we covered that one. We can help people with that flip. Oh yeah. So can you say is the most effective on children? yes. Um, and what do children usually love to eat more of than anything else? Sugar. Yeah. Bacon. That might be true. And candy coated. Bacon and not. Look, I’m not, I’m not saying that that’s necessarily the reason, but it sure makes sense from my perspective to say if you’ve got a kid that loves sugar and their epileptic and a ketogenic diet can help them, I would think it would massively help them if there’s a connection there, um, that, that would, that would explain, that would explain it. at least the connection. We still don’t know the why, right? Um, okay. Number 20, the, the, the claim is that if you’re doing Keto, you can cheat, you can occasionally cheat Melanie. You can, you can do it. It’s a free country. Um, I think that the, the restriction is that you need to stay away from the sugar. Estelle, it’s not a go out and have a donut for your cheat meal. You can, you can cheat on Kido caloric lies, but stay away from the carbs and the sugars. Yeah. The interesting thing about cheating on Kido is if you truly cheat, meaning you eat way more carbs than you’re supposed to, you’re no longer on Kido right here, you’re now, you’re now no longer doing the Diet. So to say, you can cheat on Keto. I kind of go, I don’t, you know, no, you’re no longer. You’re no longer ready the Diet anymore, right? But there’s a big huge. Go ahead, go ahead. But is, let’s say you’re on curb x Keto, which is our favorite Kito Diet, and you follow that baby to the tk. You’ve done great and you’ve stayed the whole 90 days and you’ve lost your 10 percent. There is some antidotal evidence that you can cheat on the 91st day and on the 92nd day be right back on Keto with no adverse effects. Agree, that’s true. We’re in the process of attempting to verify if there’s real validity to that or not. Yeah, I agree. Um, 10,000 percent actually. Sometimes it’s so good for you mentally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, look, you know, hold on. Let’s, let’s be very clear when it comes to the weight x protocol, whether you do macro feed or macro fit or starbucks, Kido, I am a huge advocate of the cheat meal, a structured, planned cheat meal, right? Not something you plan at the spur of the moment. That’s not a cheat meal. That’s a binge, right? Yeah. You don’t need to, if you didn’t plan it 24 hours in advance, it’s not a cheat meal. Plan a trip to Haagen Daas is part of my team. Um, but I’m a huge fan of these structured well planned cheat mail and there’s lots of different ways to do it in lots of different ideas. So yes, absolutely. That should be part of your, your weight loss journey. So, but I just want to qualify that, that cheating, eating carbs will knock you out of Ketosis for a short period of time. And then you have to kind of, you know, get back into it and that’s okay as long as you know that that’s what’s

Since we have quite a few endurance athletes in Weightix, I thought this would be a great chance to REALLY get into the nuts and bolts of eating for athletic performance! We get into how to eat during your training days, rest days, and long run days. We talk about low-carb (keto) vs. high-carb diets for athletes, how to eat before a race (including “carb loading”), during a race (gels, electrolytes, etc.), and after a race, and we talk about how to get PEAK efficiency from your body by feeding it exactly what it needs for your type of training. We also get into supplements.. BCAA, electrolytes, and MUCH more!!!

The biggest lies told in the weight loss world are that you should lots and lots of small meals spread throughout the day — and that “breakfast is the most important meal of the day”. Decades of research are now telling us that limiting our eating to smaller windows of time, and NOT constantly having food in your stomach, is the most efficient way to train our bodies to burn fat. If you’re not already doing intermittent fasting, you need to listen to this. If you ARE already familiar with the amazing benefits, listen to this to get some advanced tips!

Most people think training for a 5k, a 10k, or a marathon is a great weight loss strategy. But is it really? What’s the BEST strategy for losing weight as a runner? How should runners eat to achieve the balance between performance and fat burn? Is Keto okay for runners? We’ll get into all of that and more!

We’re going to get into the details on the difference between total vs. net carbs, why it matters, and we’re going to get into some advanced stuff on how you can OPTIMIZE net carbs — plus why counting net carbs using the “traditional” formula is cheating you out of SERIOUS weight loss… If you’re a Keto / CarbX dieter, this will change EVERYTHING for you!!!!!!

Struggling with motivation? Wondering how to create habits, or how to become more disciplined?  Brian, Chris, and Melanie get into the nuts and bolts, and the science behind how the brain deals with each, and we teach you how to get motivation, how to become disciplined, and how to form REAL habits!!

If you’re the kind of person who finds that motivation is fleeting, plan on going to war with your future self!!

If sugar were introduced today, it would probably be banned by the FDA. We’ll talk about why even a LITTLE bit of sugar can block fat-burn for several days, whether sugar from fruits/vegetables is okay, why sugar is addictive, talk a little about artificial sweeteners, and talk about why people struggle with so much to cut sugar from their diet. This episode is a MUST LISTEN!

We get into the things that took me by surprise.. the things I really wish someone had told me as my journey was starting, and I didn’t have to learn “the hard way”!! We talk about plateau’s, secret science tricks to tell if you’re burning fat, water weight, tracking, eating out at restaurants, maintaining a social life while losing weight, fitting in with the family, and more!!!!

Live Q&A !!! Weightix members join us live and ask questions. (Melanie joins to provide the female perspective, as well as several of our Weightix Coaches!)

“I did a diet and then it stopped working” is one of the most common things I hear from people… and by “I did a diet”, they mean, “I lost 10lbs in 2 weeks”. Anyone can lose 10lbs (just cutting carbs alone will cause your body to dump 10 pounds of water weight)….. So how do you keep burning fat once the “honeymoon period” is over? Or, more accurately put, why are the first 10 to 15 lbs so easy, but it becomes so much harder after that, and how do you keep at it?

Can you really burn fat and gain muscle at the same time? For how long? And what do you need to do when you’re ready to go from flabby to toned? Guys.. but ESPECIALLY girls.. need to listen to this one, as we spend a good amount of time talking about how and when to switch between the two modes (and how to do both at the same time), and how to program your metabolism using various training techniques. We’ll get into some advanced stuff in this one!

Just starting out? In the middle of your journey? Trying to get the last few pounds off? Where you are in your journey might change the strategy that you use for the next weight loss challenge. We get into the various pros and cons of the different plans and different strategies you can use!

Why is counting calories, by itself, not very efficient, and what can you do optimize your diet to get up to TWICE as much weight loss as counting calories, alone? We’ll get into 10 different things science has taught us which prove calorie counting is only the beginning, when it comes to success! You can contact Misty on her website @ www.TheSculptedLotus.com — email is misty@thesculptedlotus.com Recipe of the week: http://thestayathomechef.com/healthy-tuna-stuffed-avocado/

If you’re putting in the work, you should be getting the results! But a lot of people don’t realize that even small mistakes can have a huge impact on your ability to burn fat. We’ll talk about the top mistakes people make that sabotage their own weight-loss efforts!