A Tale of Two Hygienists with Michelle and Andrew

In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Billie Lunt, RDH, BA, MSDH, to explore the pivotal transition from student to practicing professional—and what it really means to advocate for yourself in today's dental hygiene landscape. The conversation dives into the gap between school and real-world practice, challenging the mindset many hygienists carry into their careers. Billie shares insight on how to step confidently into your role, define your own standards of care, and navigate the complexities of patient relationships and clinical expectations. Key topics discussed include: Transforming patient anxiety into health success stories through trust-building and communication Defining your professional standards and why they matter in everyday practice The truth behind "practicing dentistry" and what it looks like in real clinical settings The importance of questioning and aligning your values as a dental hygienist Bridging the gap between education and real-world expectations Rather than staying stuck in a student mindset, this episode encourages hygienists to take ownership of their professional identity. Billie offers a thoughtful perspective on how self-awareness, advocacy, and intentional growth can lead to stronger patient outcomes and a more fulfilling career. This episode is a must-listen for new graduates and seasoned hygienists alike who are ready to elevate their role and confidently advocate for themselves and their patients. Call to Action Take time to evaluate your professional standards and values. Identify where you can advocate more effectively for yourself and your patients, and begin making intentional changes in your daily practice. Connect with Billie Lunt: Email: happyflossertRDH@gmail.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/billielunt/

In this episode of Fast Facts Ask the Expert, Dr. Jen discusses the science behind nano-hydroxyapatite toothpaste and why not all fluoride-free formulations are created equal. Learn why concentration, crystal quality, and science-backed formulation matter when it comes to enamel protection and oral health. For more information or to schedule a CE for your team, visit: Dr. Jen Oral Care

In this episode, David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Kevin Lopez to unpack the gap between clinical education and real-world dental hygiene practice. Kevin shares honest insights from his experience, highlighting what truly matters once you step outside the classroom and into patient care. What We Talked About: Why disclosing is non-negotiable in dental hygiene practice and its impact on patient outcomes Understanding vitals, liability, and staying within your scope of practice The realities of transitioning from clinic to real-world settings Why you don't need a 4.0 GPA to become a skilled and effective clinician Key Takeaways: Clinical training lays the foundation, but real growth happens when hygienists apply those skills in practice. Prioritizing patient education tools like disclosing, understanding legal responsibilities, and building confidence matter more than perfection in academics. Call to Action: Stay committed to improving your clinical skills and understanding your professional responsibilities. Focus on delivering quality patient care, continue learning beyond graduation, and connect with professionals who can help guide your journey. Resources/Links: Email: kevin@kevstalksteeth.com Website: https://www.kevstalksteeth.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevstalksteeth/

In this episode, David Torres and Jessica Atkinson dive into the real concerns and experiences of graduating dental hygienists as they transition from school into the professional world. This candid conversation highlights the emotional and professional challenges new hygienists face, along with practical insights to help them navigate this pivotal stage of their careers. What We Talked About: First job anxiety and the pressure of entering the workforce Why hygienists must stay actively involved in their careers beyond graduation Adjusting to life after school and building confidence in clinical practice How life-changing events and personal growth shape career paths Key Takeaways: Graduating hygienists are not alone in their worries. Staying connected to the profession, seeking mentorship, and continuing education are critical to long-term success and fulfillment. Embracing change and remaining adaptable can make all the difference in building a rewarding career. Call to Action: If you're a new or soon-to-be dental hygienist, stay engaged with your professional community. Continue learning, ask questions, and seek out support systems that help you grow. Don't let early career fears hold you back from pursuing opportunities. Resources: Emails: Kalea Woodyatt: kalea.woodyatt@utahtech.edu Claire Zufelt: Claire.zufelt@utahtech.edu Abigail Vogel: Abby.vogel@utahtech.edu Haydn Bush: Haydn.mcmillan@utahtech.edu

In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Melia Lewis, MEd, to discuss the critical role dental hygienists play in supporting patients undergoing cancer treatment. Drawing from her personal experience with her father's cancer diagnosis, Melia brings a deeply meaningful perspective to the conversation. She highlights the emotional and clinical impact of cancer care, and how dental hygienists can become essential advocates and providers within a patient's healthcare journey. Key topics discussed include: * Melia's personal journey navigating her father's cancer diagnosis and how it shaped her professional perspective. *Whether dental hygiene should be more formally integrated into oncology care. *The importance of resilience and understanding why the work hygienists do truly matters. *Common oral side effects experienced by cancer patients and how to recognize them. *How hygienists can tailor appointments to better support patients undergoing cancer treatment. Rather than viewing care as routine, this episode challenges listeners to approach each patient—especially those facing serious health conditions—with intention, empathy, and clinical adaptability. Melia offers insight into how hygienists can elevate their role and make a meaningful difference during some of their patients' most vulnerable moments. This episode is a must-listen for hygienists who want to expand their understanding of patient-centered care and play a more active role in supporting individuals through complex health challenges. Call to Action: Take time to deepen your understanding of how systemic health conditions, like cancer, impact oral health. Look for opportunities to adapt your care approach and advocate for patients who may need more personalized support. Connect with Melia Lewis: Email: melia@hygieneedge.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melia-lewis/

In this episode, Alyssa Aberle shares her powerful personal journey through a patient diagnosis, surgery, and tongue reconstruction, offering a perspective that deeply resonates with dental professionals. The conversation emphasizes the critical role hygienists play in early detection of oral cancer and why cutting corners is never an option when it comes to patient care. Alyssa, along with David and Jessica, dives into practical strategies for oral cancer screenings, including how to communicate findings with confidence and compassion. They also discuss when and how to refer patients to specialists, ensuring the best possible outcomes. A key highlight is the discussion around effective screening scripts and the importance of the 10–14 day rule in monitoring suspicious lesions. What We Talked About: Alyssa's personal experience with her patients diagnosis, surgery, and tongue reconstruction The responsibility of dental professionals to thoroughly screen for oral cancer Why you should never cut corners during exams How to confidently refer patients and choose the right specialist Verbiage and scripts that build trust during oral cancer screenings Understanding and applying the 10–14 day rule Call to Action: This episode is designed to empower dental hygienists to take ownership of their role in patient care. By listening, you'll gain the confidence, language, and clinical mindset needed to perform thorough screenings and advocate for your patients' health. Resources and Links: Connect with Alyssa: linktr.ee/alyssardh alyssa.aberle@gmail.com

In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson welcome renowned speaker and dental educator Jo-Anne Jones for an impactful conversation titled "Oral Cancer Screening: Stepping Fully Into Your Role." Jo-Anne shares deeply personal and professional insights that challenge clinicians to recognize the true life-saving potential of routine dental visits. Through powerful storytelling and clinical expertise, she highlights the urgency of early detection—especially in the face of rising HPV-related cancers—and encourages hygienists to fully embrace their role in comprehensive screenings. From explaining the intraoral "triangle of death" to demonstrating proper neck palpation techniques, Jo-Anne provides practical, actionable strategies clinicians can implement immediately. She also reflects on how a personal crisis shaped her mission in dentistry and reinforces why every screening appointment should be treated as an opportunity to save a life. This episode is both inspiring and educational, equipping dental professionals with the knowledge and confidence to elevate their oral cancer screening protocols and patient care. "What We Talked About (From Jo-Anne's Perspective)" Why Jo-Anne is passionate about saving lives—HPV, rising cancers, and one family's loss How Jo-Anne approaches the intraoral "triangle of death" exam How a personal crisis launched Jo-Anne's mission in dentistry Why Jo-Anne believes this is a life-saving appointment How Jo-Anne performs proper neck palpation Simple screening steps Jo-Anne recommends hygienists start today Why Jo-Anne uses screening tools in clinical practice Call to Action If you found this episode valuable, be sure to subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share it with colleagues who are committed to improving patient care and early detection. Resources: HPV Talking Points Resource: www.rdhu.ca/hpvtalkingpointsresource Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jjlifeandtimes/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jo-anne-jones-88a2266/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jo.anne.jones.626106/

Fluoride conversations don't have to feel uncomfortable. In this Bonus episode, we're joined by Jen Post, RDH, MDH, FADHA, to discuss practical strategies for improving patient communication and increasing fluoride acceptance. Jen shares how hygienists can confidently address common patient concerns, simplify their messaging, and create more effective chairside conversations. We also explore how Clinpro™ Clear fluoride varnish supports both clinicians and patients with its clear appearance, smooth application, and comfortable feel—helping reduce objections and improve overall acceptance. Listeners will walk away with actionable tips to strengthen preventive care conversations and enhance the patient experience. About Our Guest Jen Post, RDH, MDH, FADHA is an Advanced Clinical Applications Specialist at Solventum with extensive experience in clinical practice, education, and research. She is a Fellow of the American Dental Hygienists' Association and brings a passion for practical, patient-centered care. What We Talked About How to approach fluoride conversations with confidence Common patient concerns and how to address them What makes Clinpro™ Clear different Strategies to increase case acceptance Call to Action Enjoyed this episode? Share it with a colleague and start improving your fluoride conversations today. This episode is sponsored by Solventum Dental Solutions. Resources: https://www.solventum.com/en-us/home/f/b5005503000/ https://s7d9.scene7.com/is/content/mmmspinco/clinpro-clear-brochure-ds-rps-enpdf Jen Post: jpost2@solventum.com About the Company Solventum Dental Solutions builds on over 70 years of innovation to support dental professionals with trusted products and solutions that enhance patient care and clinical outcomes.

In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and David sit down with dental hygienist Angeli Walton to share her powerful story of recognizing early signs of a thyroid condition—within herself. What began as clinical awareness quickly turned into a deeply personal journey, as Angeli navigated the unexpected shift from provider to patient. Angeli reflects on how her training helped her notice subtle changes that might have otherwise gone overlooked, and how trusting those instincts ultimately led to early detection. The conversation explores the emotional and professional impact of experiencing healthcare from the other side of the chair, offering a unique perspective that many clinicians don't anticipate, but can learn from. Together, they discuss the broader role dental professionals play in identifying systemic health concerns, and why paying attention to small details can make a life-changing difference. Angeli also shares insights on self-advocacy and why it's critical for clinicians to speak up—both for their patients and themselves. This episode offers a meaningful reminder that the skills used every day in practice extend far beyond oral health, and can be just as important in protecting your own well-being. What We Talked About: Recognizing early signs of systemic conditions How clinical instincts can support early detection The experience of transitioning from provider to patient Why subtle symptoms shouldn't be ignored The importance of self-advocacy in healthcare If you found this episode valuable, be sure to subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share it with colleagues who are passionate about whole-body health and early detection. Resources: Email: Angeli.damron@gmail.com Instagram: @angeliwalton

Dry mouth isn't just uncomfortable—it can impact sleep, swallowing, oral health, and overall quality of life. In this TIPisode, we learn about Moisyn, a unique solution designed to provide lasting moisture and relief for patients dealing with xerostomia. Unlike traditional products that offer only temporary relief, Moisyn uses a mucoadhesive, moisture-retentive technology to help keep the oral environment hydrated longer. We also break down how clinicians can improve patient compliance, why dispensing products in-office matters, and how dry mouth solutions can impact long-term oral health outcomes. If you're seeing more patients struggling with dry mouth, this is an episode you don't want to miss. Learn More about Moisyn https://periosciences.com/products/moisyn-mist

In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with oral pathologist Dr. Bryan Trump to discuss the important role dental professionals play in identifying abnormalities and knowing when to refer patients to a specialist. Dr. Trump shares valuable insight into what clinicians might be missing during routine exams and how to strengthen their confidence when suspicious findings arise. The conversation dives into practical strategies for performing thorough oral cancer screenings, recognizing key red flags, and navigating patient conversations when something concerning is discovered. Dr. Trump also offers guidance on how clinicians can communicate pathology findings in a clear and compassionate way—helping patients understand the situation without causing unnecessary fear. This episode provides practical tips for dental hygienists and dentists who want to improve their screening protocols, referral confidence, and patient communication when dealing with potentially serious diagnoses. What We Talked About: How to confidently refer patients to specialists Essential tips for performing effective oral cancer screenings Recognizing concerning findings and clinical red flags Navigating difficult conversations about the possibility of cancer How to communicate pathology findings without unnecessarily scaring patients If you found this episode helpful, be sure to subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share the episode with colleagues who are passionate about improving patient care and early detection. Resources: Contact Dr. Bryan Trump: bryan.trump@hsc.utah.edu

In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Joffree Bunleang to unpack one of the most challenging realities in professional advocacy—what happens when legislation doesn't go the way you hoped? The conversation centers around Oral Preventive Assistants (OPAs) and the evolving landscape of dental practice. Joffree brings clarity to what OPAs are, why they're being introduced in various regions, and how their presence impacts dental hygienists and the broader dental team. Key topics discussed include: Understanding OPAs and their intended role within dental practices The surprising truth about the hygienist perspective on change and professional identity The real impact OPAs may have on workflow, patient care, and team dynamics Practical ways hygienists can work with OPAs in everyday clinical settings How to respond constructively when advocacy efforts don't achieve the desired outcome Rather than framing OPAs as a threat, this episode challenges listeners to consider how collaboration, leadership, and proactive engagement can strengthen the profession. Joffree offers thoughtful insight into how hygienists can continue advocating for themselves while also building effective working relationships with Oral Preventive Assistants. This episode is a must-listen for hygienists navigating legislative changes and seeking productive ways to move forward—together. Call to Action Empower yourself as a dental hygienist. Advocate for your profession, stay informed about legislative developments, and focus on collaboration. Learn how to work alongside Oral Preventive Assistants in ways that support patient care, professional growth, and team success. Resources: Email: joffree.bunleang@hygieneelevated.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joffreebunleang/ "What if OPAs became the strength we didn't see coming?" https://www.rdhmag.com/career-profession/article/55344645/what-if-opas-became-the-strength-we-didnt-see-coming

Legislation impacts your daily practice more than most clinicians realize. In this episode, we sit down with Derik J. Sven to break down what truly drives change in dental hygiene policy — and what doesn't. Derik shares insight into the realities behind dental care standards, the ongoing fight for hygienist autonomy, and the complex supervision structures that shape scope of practice across the country. He also explains why legal expertise often carries significant influence in regulatory conversations and how business, public health, and law intersect in advancing the profession. In This Episode We Cover: The political and structural forces behind dental care standards The ongoing battle for dental hygienist autonomy Supervision requirements and why they matter Why attorneys often influence dental policy decisions Lesser-known factors that can directly affect your career About the Guest Derik J. Sven began his career as a certified dental technician before transitioning into clinical dental hygiene. He earned degrees in Dental Hygiene and Health Care Administration, followed by a Master of Public Health and a Master of Business Administration. He is currently pursuing doctoral research at George Washington University, focusing on dental therapy advancement and hygienist autonomy, while also completing a Master's in Health Care Law. Derik is actively involved in the American Dental Hygienists' Association, where he was inducted into the inaugural class of ADHA Fellows in 2023 and serves as President-Elect of Virginia's Dental Hygienists' Association. This episode offers a practical foundation for understanding how legislation truly moves — and what it means for the future of dental hygiene. Resources: derik@dentistrywithderik.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/derikjsven/

Tooth sensitivity can make everyday things—like drinking cold water or even getting a routine cleaning—uncomfortable for patients. In this TIPisode, Dr. Marc Geissberger shares his experience beta testing ReminGel, a professional-strength remineralizing gel from PerioProtect designed to reduce sensitivity and support enamel health. Marc Geissberger DDS, MA shares how patients in his practice used the gel with PerioProtect trays for just 15 minutes a day, with many reporting dramatic reductions in sensitivity after only one week. If you treat patients who struggle with sensitivity, this TIPisode highlights a promising option that may improve comfort, hygiene visits, and overall patient care. This TIPisode is sponsored by PerioProtect. Learn more at PerioProtect.com

Advocacy can feel exhausting — especially in a profession that already demands so much emotionally and physically. In this powerful episode, we sit down with Bethany Montoya, MBA, BAS, RDH to talk about how to stand up for yourself, your patients, and your profession without sacrificing your well-being. Bethany shares her personal journey through challenge, change, and growth — and how embracing the storm can actually make you stronger. From navigating the pressures of clinical life to stepping into new leadership roles, she reminds us that authenticity and community are essential tools in sustainable advocacy. This conversation is honest, energizing, and filled with practical encouragement for hygienists who want to make a difference without burning out. Connect with Bethany: 🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethanymontoya/ 🔗 Resources & Projects: https://linktr.ee/humanrdh Bethanyrdh@outlook.com

In this episode, we sit down with Danyelle Evans to explore her path from an invested clinician to becoming a state and national advocate for oral health and access to prevention. Danyelle shares the moment that shifted her perspective from frustration to action: caring for a patient who could no longer continue treatment in a traditional brick-and-mortar dental office. Watching him lose access to care sparked her desire to create opportunities to continue caring for patients in more accessible, patient-centered ways. From that experience, Danyelle's advocacy journey grew. She reflects on how professional association membership became a critical foundation—providing education, leadership development, and a voice in policy conversations that directly impact patient care. We also discuss how networking, mentorship, and showing up consistently opened doors to opportunities she never could have planned for, but was prepared to step into. Resources: info@smartmouthrdh.com linkedin.com/in/danyelleevans @mobile_dentalhygiene facebook.com/MobileDentalHygieneofSt.George

Dr. Johnson returns to the podcast to share a powerful and often-overlooked perspective on tribal dentistry, career fulfillment, and why passion truly matters in dentistry. This conversation goes beyond clinical techniques and dives into purpose, opportunity, and loving the work you do. 🦷 What You'll Learn in This Episode Understanding Tribal Dentistry: A Unique Perspective Dr. Johnson offers an inside look at tribal dentistry—how it operates, who it serves, and why it plays a vital role in improving access to care in underserved communities. Navigating Job Opportunities in Tribal Dentistry Thinking outside the traditional private practice model? Dr. Johnson breaks down career paths, benefits, and professional growth opportunities available in tribal dentistry. The Impact of Passion in Dentistry Revealed Passion isn't optional—it's essential. Dr. Johnson explains how loving what you do directly affects patient care, team culture, and long-term career satisfaction. Why Loving Your Job Makes a Difference From daily mindset to burnout prevention, Dr. Johnson shares how fulfillment in dentistry leads to better outcomes for both patients and providers. Discover the Tooth Fairy's Secret Money Source A fun and lighthearted moment in the episode, Dr. Johnson reveals a playful take on the legendary tooth fairy—and the Children's book that he wrote about it! Resources: Where Does the Tooth Fairy Get All That Money? https://a.co/d/7YpQVgC The Sacred Chalice https://a.co/d/0XfYf5Y

In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, hosts Jessica Atkinson and David Torres sit down with Brittnee Thibault and Lindsay Richmond—two hygienists who graduated with no pediatric local anesthetic practice in school and went on to become confident clinicians providing local anesthesia for children. Brittnee and Lindsay share how they developed pediatric anesthesia skills after graduation, building confidence through preparation, mentorship, and real-world experience. They discuss behavior management, anesthesia techniques, and parent-provider communication—highlighting how being prepared allows clinicians to stay calm rather than panicked when treating pediatric patients. What We Cover Transitioning from no pediatric local anesthetic practice in school to confidently anesthetizing children Pediatric behavior management strategies that support successful anesthesia Practical anesthesia techniques and considerations for pediatric patients Managing children and their parents during appointments Parent-provider communication that builds trust and reduces anxiety Resources: Social Media Handles: @Lindsay.richmond16 LindsayRichmond.rdh@gmail.com @brittnee.thibault Brittneethibaultrdh@gmail.com

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Johnson, a dedicated pediatric dentist (pedodontist), to explore what makes pediatric dentistry truly unique—and why it's about so much more than just teeth. From mastering parent communication to handling unexpected holiday emergencies, Dr. Johnson shares real-world insights from the front lines of pediatric care. 🦷 What You'll Learn in This Episode Why Dr. Johnson Became a Pedodontist Dr. Johnson shares the personal and professional journey that led him to specialize in pediatric dentistry, and what continues to inspire his passion for treating children. The Journey to Becoming a Pediatric Dentist An inside look at the training, mindset, and commitment required to pursue pediatric dentistry—and how it differs from general practice. Why Pediatric Dentistry Requires a Unique Approach Children aren't just small adults. Dr. Johnson explains how behavior, development, fear, and trust shape every clinical decision in pediatric care. Mastering Parent Communication in Dentistry Effective pediatric dentistry depends on strong relationships with parents. Dr. Johnson breaks down how to educate, reassure, and partner with families for better outcomes. The Power of Prevention in Pediatric Dentistry From early habits to long-term oral health, prevention is the cornerstone of pediatric dentistry. Learn how early intervention can set kids up for a lifetime of healthy smiles. When to Consider Sedation for Pediatric Patients A thoughtful discussion on sedation—when it's appropriate, how decisions are made, and how safety and comfort are prioritized for young patients. The Unexpected Tooth Emergency on Christmas Eve Dr. Johnson shares a memorable real-life story that highlights the unpredictable nature of pediatric dentistry—and the dedication it takes to care for patients when it matters most. Resources: Dr. Johnson's book Link: https://a.co/d/7YpQVgC Johnson.david192@gmail.com

In this episode, we sit down with Christine Jeffs, co-founder of Acuti Sharpening, to talk about why sharpening isn't optional—it's essential. Christine shares how she got started in the sharpening business and how Acuti Sharpening came to life alongside co-founder Melia Lewis, RDH. We unpack the often-overlooked role instrument sharpness plays in ergonomics, efficiency, patient comfort, and long-term career longevity. This conversation goes beyond the what and into the why. Christine explains how sharpening directly impacts clinical outcomes and why making it a consistent habit—not an afterthought—can change the way hygienists practice. Whether you're new to sharpening or know you should be doing it more regularly, this episode offers clarity, motivation, and practical insight. What You'll Hear in This Episode How Christine got into the sharpening space The origin of Acuti Sharpening Why sharp instruments matter for clinicians, patients, and careers How to build sharpening into a regular clinical routine Resources: Acutisharpening@gmail.com