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[Best of Season] AMP075: Getting 10x Results From Your Content With Garrett Moon Of CoSchedule
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CoSchedule started the Actionable Marketing Podcast (AMP) in 2015 and has recorded and published more than 300 episodes. CoSchedule has worked with some of the smartest minds out there that share their stories with you through this podcast. This season, CoSchedule brings back some of the best of the best evergreen content.
Content marketing is a highly competitive space. Every single day, nearly 60 million blog posts are published and five billion YouTube videos are watched. Are you always trying to edge out search results to be on top? Discover how to reframe your mindset when it comes to content marketing.
Today, we’re talking to Garrett Moon, CoSchedule CEO, about how to handle such competition when it comes to content marketing and his new book, 10X Marketing Formula: Your Blueprint for Creating Competition-Free Content That Stands Out and Gets Results.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Marketers are responsible for bringing in leads, sales, people - big tasks - to support core business metrics. Garrett’s book describes taking the formula, process, tips and tricks, and things that work and don’t for CoSchedule and making them available to anybody to use and implement in their business and marketing process.
Gartner’s Hype Cycle: How new technology is adopted. When content marketing took shape a few years back, all of a sudden, everyone was adopting it and reworking their marketing teams, creating content, doing blogging, building email lists, and other tasks. Content marketing made a lot of promises to us.
Now, Garrett believes we are entering the trough of disillusionment. We adopted content marketing, but what about those big promises that were made? What about the results? Why are you not getting the results you were promised?
How do marketing teams provide business value? Content marketing needs to be reinvented.
Garrett describes the "copy cat" epidemic in marketing. There is so much free content online where pieces of strategies, tactics, and other items are copied and pasted. However, it does not create an entire picture or blueprint.
The goal is to create a framework from start to finish to find something unique to your business that only you can do and be successful with. Something that stands out and gets results.
Creating Competition-Free Content: Not only is your business and products in competition, but your marketing is in competition with other marketing. Find a way to break past that barrier created by competitors.
The book, Blue Ocean Strategy, refers to the Bloody Red Ocean, which is full of competition and where businesses are fighting each other to stand out - they’re at war with each other. However, the Blue Ocean is wide-open and uncontested. You're free to swim around and move about because you have successfully been able to differentiate yourself from the competition.
To differentiate your content marketing, focus on your topics, how you create content, and how to connect that content and share it with your customers.
10X reference: look at what you are doing and ask if what you are doing will help your team multiply results, including increasing sales leads and the number of visitors to your Website.
Marketing teams need to focus on 10x growth rather than increments of 10 percent improvements. Marketing teams are designed to produce results, not worry about risks.
Agile Manifesto: focuses on how software development could be better. A powerful way to cause engineers to rethink and reframe what they’re doing.
10X Manifesto: focuses on how so much of marketing is about mindset when it comes to how we do and approach things.
Results or Die: 10X marketers work in a results or die oriented business, not 10 percenters allowed. Many think of marketing as a process for things they do - marketing is the blog, social media channels, conference booth, etc. There’s all these deliverables that a marketing team creates and hands off to others, such as the sales and support teams. Marketers are not here to produce Web ads or build a Website. They’re here to help produce business results and help grow companies.
10X marketers understand that growth requires failure, strength is in progress, not perfection. Teams that embrace failure (fail fast) understand that it is not about failure but acknowledging imperfection.
Marketing comes with assumptions: assume methods used to get the message out will work; assume there’s the right mix of email ads; assume messages are right; assume the timeline is correct. Ever realize how much you are guessing?
The problem is in the marketing plan. It becomes a risk-removal tool that leads to pointing fingers and placing blame on others. Instead of a plan, start with a goal.
To start down the 10X marketing path, list what work you did this week. Are these 10X or 10 percent activities? Do any of these activities have the ability or potential, in a short period of time, to multiply results by 10X?
Links:
Garrett Moon
10X Marketing Formula
Gartner Hype Cycle
Blue Ocean Strategy
Agile Manifesto
SpaceX
Elon Musk
CoSchedule
Quotes by Garrett Moon:
“Everyone was really excited about it (content marketing). There was a lot of energy. A lot of hype behind it, and a lot of big promises that content marketing made to all of us.”
“If we’re going to really double down. If we’re really going to continue doing this, how do we really make it sing? How do we really make it pay for itself and become a true part of our results?”
“For us (CoSchedule as a start-up), it was results or die.”
“Once teams start looking at what they’re doing, how their processes are built, one thing they tend to find is that much of what they’re doing is based on mitigating risk vs. generating results.”
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[Best of Season] AMP139: This Is How To Nail Product Positioning So Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It With April...
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CoSchedule started the Actionable Marketing Podcast (AMP) in 2015 and has recorded and published more than 300 episodes. CoSchedule has worked with some of the smartest minds out there that share their stories with you through this podcast. This season, CoSchedule brings back some of the best of the best evergreen content.
The success of your company depends on the marketing you do, how you choose to present the benefits of a product or service, and which audience to target. How you position a product or service can make or break your company. Stop right there. Forget everything you thought you knew about product positioning. Connecting your product or service with buyers is not a matter of following trends, selling harder, or trying to attract the widest customer base.
Today, my guest is April Dunford, who has launched more than a dozen products and shares some of the biggest mistakes that startups, marketers, and entrepreneurs make with product positioning. Also, she’s the author of Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning So Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It. April’s book describes her point of view on positioning and offers a step-by-step process to perfectly position your product or service.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Career Change: Fake it til you figure it out. How hard can it be?
Do it right, and the company grows quickly, gets acquired; you get bored and do another startup
Definition of Positioning: How to win at doing something that a well-defined market cares about
Perfect marketing execution won’t save you from weak positioning; marketing execution and results are only as good as positioning that feeds into them
Who should decide the positioning for your product? Everybody
Siebel Story: Too small to buy out beyond a billion dollars
Positioning Pitfalls: People don’t do positioning deliberately; and when they try to fix it, they don’t follow a process but wing it or write a “Positioning Statement”
Positioning Statement Components: Who’s your competitive alternatives?
What are the unique capabilities or features that your product has?
What’s the value that those features can enable for customers?
Who’s my target customer?
Is this a market that I’m going to win?
Signs of weak positioning include: How a customer reacts to your product/service
They compare you to a non-competitor; not in the right market
Customer knows what you do, but not the value or why they should care
Links:
April Dunford
Obviously Awesome: How to Nail Product Positioning So Customers Get It, Buy It, Love It
CoSchedule
Quotes by April Dunford:
“Not only is positioning a thing I should figure out, it's potentially a super powerful thing.”
“Two years after graduating from engineering, I'm running this great big marketing team. It's global. I’ve got this giant budget...even though I was completely unqualified for it.”
“I focus on positioning, mainly because I think people do a really terrible job at positioning. There's not many people that know how to do it right.”
“A shift in positioning can totally result in a shift in the product roadmap, a shift in your pricing, a shift in a way you sell, a shift in your channels.”
"You see signs of weak positioning across your entire sales marketing funnel, but often the place where it’s most obvious is looking at how a customer reacts when they first encounter your product or your offering."
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[Best of Season] AMP071: How To Get Your Content To Rank #1 On Google With Tim Soulo Of Ahrefs
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CoSchedule started the Actionable Marketing Podcast (AMP) in 2015 and has recorded and published more than 300 episodes. CoSchedule has worked with some of the smartest minds out there that share their stories with you through this podcast. This season, CoSchedule brings back some of the best of the best evergreen content.
Planning and creating content that ranks well on the search engines can be difficult. It comes down to keyword selection and use, but that’s not all. You’ve heard the expression, “content is king,” and that’s still true. Your success has everything to do with the value and uniqueness that your content has to offer the people who will be seeing it!
Today, we’re talking to Tim Soulo, the head of marketing and product strategy at Ahrefs. Tim knows how to create valuable content, and he shares his best tips on finding keywords, promoting your content, and standing out from your competition.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Information about Ahrefs and what Tim does there.
The most successful content produced by Ahrefs: the types of articles and pieces, as well as how they promote and analyze them.
Tips on ranking for not only your core keyword, but also relevant keywords.
The process Tim uses for coming up with content ideas.
What it takes to outperform your competition.
Why it’s important for an SEO marketer to do research that no other blog has written about or compiled.
Tim’s thoughts on length and why it might not be important in the way that you are thinking. Tim also talks about long “ultimate guides” and gives his advice on making them more user-friendly.
How to use backlinks to promote a piece to help it rank.
Links:
Tim Soulo
Ahrefs
How to Do Keyword Research for SEO
How to Submit Your Website to Search Engines
CoSchedule
Quotes by Tim Soulo:
“The only way to outdo, to outperform the competition is to offer something unique and something better than they have.”
“You have to have something to offer which wasn’t published, which wasn’t said before you. You usually need to be at the forefront of your industry, you need to be a so-called thought leader.”
“It’s not about trying to crank everything you can into the article, it's about delivering value and persuading people that you can solve their problem in as [few] words as possible.”
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[Best of Season] AMP085: How To Use The Psychology Of Habit Formation To Be A Better Marketer With Best-Selling...
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CoSchedule started the Actionable Marketing Podcast (AMP) in 2015 and has recorded and published more than 300 episodes. CoSchedule has worked with some of the smartest minds out there that share their stories with you through this podcast. This season, CoSchedule brings back some of the best of the best evergreen content. Has your smartphone ever beeped or vibrated to let you know that something, some piece of information or message, is waiting, just for you? Without even thinking, you read, listen to, or watch, and become completely absorbed in it. How have these pieces gained so much power over our behavior and attention? How do software companies hook us, and what can marketers learn from this phenomenon?
Today’s guest is Nir Eyal, who says today’s smartest companies have melded psychology, business, and technology into habit-forming products. Nir is the best-selling author of Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products. He’s an angel investor and expert in behavioral design. He unveils some psychological principles behind some of today’s biggest and most valuable companies.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Skill of the century is the ability to cultivate focus
Behavioral Design: Engaging, habit forming products built with consumer psychology in mind
People use the Hooked model to engage with a product or service
Step 1: Internal trigger (reason why you use a product - to modulate your mood, to feel something different; products and services cater to emotional discomfort)
What’s the user’s itch? What’s their pain point that occurs frequently enough to build a habit around?
Step 2: Action (the simplest behavior done in anticipation of a reward and relief from discomfort; technology shortens the distance between the need and reward)
Lewin’s Equation: “People act in accordance to their personality and their environment” - the easier something is, the more likely people are to do it
Step 3: Reward Phase (the itch gets scratched, the customer’s need is satiated, and their problems are solved)
Element of Variability: Something of mystery, something of uncertainty
3 Variable Reward Types: Rewards of the tribe, the hunt, and of the self
If you can form a habit, you can engage people with your brand through a community/content habit, and monetization is the result of engagement
Step 4: Investment Phase (increases likelihood of the next pass through the hook by loading the next trigger and storing value)
Content, data, followers, and reputation get users to invest in your product
Companies should make a deliberate effort to understand consumers better; what makes people click and tick, so you can build services that they want
Links:
NirandFar.com
Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products
Habit Summit
Stack Overflow
CoSchedule
Quotes by Nir Eyal:
“Where we always start is what’s the user’s itch? What’s their pain point that occurs frequently enough to build a habit around?”
“The easier something is, the more likely people are to do it.”
“Monetization is a result of engagement.”
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[Best of Season] AMP 082: How To Drive 10x More Traffic With This SEO Technique From Brian Dean Of Backlink.io
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CoSchedule started the Actionable Marketing Podcast (AMP) in 2015 and has recorded and published more than 300 episodes. CoSchedule has worked with some of the smartest minds out there that share their stories with you through this podcast. This season, CoSchedule brings back some of the best of the best evergreen content.
These days, you need to create both a great Website and great content to rank on Google.
Today, we’re talking to Brian Dean, an SEO expert and founder of Backlinko, about how to fuel your 10x content using his research method called the Skyscraper Technique.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Black Hat SEO: Stuffing keywords and creating fake signals to rank in Google
Google penalized sites using Black Hat SEO strategy
White Hat SEO: Show Google everything you did to optimize your site
Backlinko teaches people White Hat SEO strategies
SEO Elements: Keyword and topic research; create content around them
Two types of keywords: Information and commercial
Create and optimize content that gets the most searches around keywords/topics
Differences between well-researched and not researched content and topics
Provide one-stop shopping for all the information customers need
Skyscraper Technique: Research to figure out what content will perform well
Ways to improve content - go bigger and better, curate, storytelling, and more
Focus on quality over quantity; create less content, make it more valuable
Common missteps when implementing “less is more” strategy and ranking
Links:
10X Marketing Formula by Garrett Moon
Backlinko
Backlinko on YouTube
Jon Cooper
Tim Ferriss and the 4-Hour Work Week
Google Keyword Planner
Reddit
CoSchedule
Quotes by Brian Dean:
“You really have to create legitimately great content and a legitimately great Website to rank in Google.”
“Everything starts with a keyword with SEO.”
“They just regurgitate what’s already out there and that’s not the type of content that’s going to rank as well on Google.”
“There’s tons of ways to make your content more valuable than the competition.”
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[Best of Season] AMP 057: How To Create Content That Ranks For 11,000+ Keywords With Julia McCoy From Express Writers
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CoSchedule started the Actionable Marketing Podcast (AMP) in 2015 and has recorded and published more than 300 episodes. CoSchedule has worked with some of the smartest minds out there that share their stories with you through this podcast. This season, CoSchedule brings back some of the best of the best evergreen content.
How much attention do you pay to keywords in your content?
For too many people, the answer is “none” or “nearly none.” While having engaging content that attracts human readers is vital, ignoring keywords is going to make it difficult for those human readers to find your content in the first place.
This bad advice to ignore keywords has made it so some marketers really don’t know how to use keywords effectively at all.
Today, we’re talking to Julia McCoy, the CEO of Express Writers. She’s not only an amazing writer but also considered a thought leader in her industry. She talks to us about using keywords well when creating content.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
How Julia got into freelance writing, what made her start Express Writers, and what she does there.
An overview of the content strategy at Express Writers.
How Julia helps older content maintain a high ranking in the search engines.
Why targeting low-competition keywords works.
How Julia finds the keywords and what tools she uses.
How Julia defines good content for Express Writers.
Tips on weaving keywords into great content.
Why long-form content is important when it comes to ranking.
Where to focus first if you’re a content marketer getting started with keywords.
Links:
Express Writers
Julia McCoy
Rand Fishkin: How to Create 10x Content
SEMRush
Mangools
Julia’s Content Strategy Course
CoSchedule
Quotes by Julia McCoy:
“Just having engaging writing is number one. You have to write to be read. Number two, you have to be super thorough on the topic.”
“Once we have that keyword, it’s not just about the keyword, it’s about creating content where that keyword is the topic."
“Consistency is key. Whenever you start, give your audience something to look forward to.”
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[Best of Season] AMP 056: How To Grow From 0 to 1 Million Customers With Noah Kagan From SumoMe and OkDork
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CoSchedule started the Actionable Marketing Podcast (AMP) in 2015 and has recorded and published more than 300 episodes. CoSchedule has worked with some of the smartest minds out there that share their stories with you through this podcast. This season, CoSchedule brings back some of the best of the best evergreen content. Have you ever wondered what the process would be like to start something from scratch and end up with a million users? Our conversation is going to help you set better goals and achieve more than you ever have before.
Today, we’re talking to Noah Kagan, the chief sumo at sumo.com and AppSumo. He also hosts Noah Kagan Presents, which is an awesome podcast, and has a steady stream of stuff on okdork.com.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
How Noah handles the marketing at Sumo.com and what has the most potential.
How Noah ended up at Mint, where he helped grow the company from zero to more than a million users.
Why Noah doesn’t believe in hope in the business world.
The process Noah used to put his plan together, come up with ideas, figure out how much traffic he had, and more.
Common mistakes that Noah sees other people making.
Why copying methods described on other people’s blog posts doesn’t work.
The greatest piece of marketing advice Noah has received.
Links:
Sumo.com
AppSumo
Noah Kagan Presents
OkDork.com
CoSchedule
Quotes by Noah Kagan:
“I believe in hope in fantasy and fairytales in the real world or in the non-business world, but in business, no.”
“If you're not making mistakes, you're probably not experimenting enough.”
“At the end of the day, it really just comes down to you got to do it yourself... go and experiment yourself, go and promote something.”
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[Best of Season] AMP 081: How To Do Remarkable Customer Research With Rand Fishkin From SparkToro
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CoSchedule started the Actionable Marketing Podcast (AMP) in 2015 and has recorded and published more than 300 episodes. CoSchedule has worked with some of the smartest minds out there that share their stories with you through this podcast. This season, CoSchedule brings back some of the best of the best evergreen content.
Where do your customers hang out? What kinds of things do they like? What publications do they read? Customer research involves a lot of leg work, so does this information even matter? How can you leverage such insight for SEO?
Today, we’re talking to Rand Fishkin, founder of SparkToro and author of Lost and Founder. He is a powerhouse in the content marketing and SEO world.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Background, origination, and purpose of SparkToro
Reaching/Researching Audiences: Slow, frustrating, and inaccurate process
Companies spend money contracting agencies for a list of top customers, blogs, podcasts, and events
Bones of Audience Intelligence: 1) Identify audiences across channels; 2) Know audience density; 3) Use trustworthy and valuable metrics
How to obtain, benchmark, filter, and analyze data
Data Points: Which to focus on and where to get them
Social Network Profiles: Report follower count and engagement
Biases generate unrepresentative data influenced by SEO
Significant sample sizes and diverse groups are needed for true coverage
Examples of missing specific audiences
SparkToro lets you find people who practice specific fields
Does current audience intelligence data represent the market as a whole?
Improve SEO by helping audience accomplish tasks, and identifying and broadening link sources
Links:
Rand Fishkin on Twitter
SparkToro
Lost and Founder
Project Event Safe
Moz
SurveyMonkey Audience
Nate Silver
SimilarWeb Pro
CoSchedule
Quotes by Rand Fishkin:
“If you’re looking at a social network profile, don’t just report on follower count, go look at the last 20 or 50 posts...report on how much engagement did each of those get.”
“Go out there, build a company, make mistakes, just don’t make exactly the same ones I did.”
“You get biased by your existing understanding of the field.”
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[Best of Season] AMP 144: This is How To Grow Your Blog From Zilch To 1 Million Monthly Views With Leah DeKrey From...
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CoSchedule started the Actionable Marketing Podcast (AMP) in 2015 and has recorded and published more than 300 episodes. CoSchedule has worked with some of the smartest minds out there that share their stories with you through this podcast. This season, CoSchedule brings back some of the best of the best evergreen content.
CoSchedule’s blog and content engine generate more than 1 million views and 20,000 leads every month. How do we do it? Listen and learn.
Today’s guest is Leah DeKrey, content marketing strategist and blog manager at CoSchedule. To know that a million people read the blog posts she writes every month is terrifying, thrilling, and core to CoSchedule’s growth.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Reasons for Successful Blog: Corporate and managerial buy-in
Standards of performance
Blog Posts: Be different than the rest, as the best
4 Performance Pillars for Blog Posts: Comprehensive; at least 3,000 words
Actionable
Relevant
Content upgrade/value-add included
Keyword Domination Strategy: Drive content by Googling around to search and seek high-volume, low-difficulty keywords
Measure Success of Content and Blog: Give it time because reaching the top doesn't happen overnight and takes patience
What you know now: College system is ripe for disruption, real world is where you learn 90% of what you do
Tools to Try: Ahrefs, Google Analytics, and KISSmetrics
Links:
CoSchedule Blog
10X-Marketing Formula by Garrett Moon
Ahrefs
Google Analytics
KISSmetrics
What Is Mobilegeddon & The Google Mobile Friendly Update
Quotes from Leah DeKrey:
“The number one thing that got us kicked off on the right foot was having that executive and managerial buy-in.”
“We aim to be the most in-depth blog posts that you can find on any topic on the Internet.”
“How much is too much? How much time is too much time? You're not alone in wondering those things.”
“Finding those sweet spots of keywords is really important for your content strategy. Otherwise, it's not going to be justified spending so much time.”
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AMP 272: The Content Planning Blueprint You Need for Success With Vassilena Valchanova
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When it comes to content marketing, failing to plan is planning to fail. Why do some marketers struggle with content planning? It isn’t easy nor is it always properly valued. Sometimes, content planning gets overlooked. Today’s guest is Vassilena Valchanova, a digital strategist, trainer, speaker, and blogger. She talks about why it is important to plan content consistently with a repeatable and effective framework by sharing her blueprint for content planning.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Content Planning: Focus on the right things and follow a predefined structure
Pros: Goal is to promote products and give people helpful information
Cons: Without a clear process for planning content, promotional content fills gap
Out of Necessity: Why Vissilena created content marketing blueprint/framework
Purpose: Blueprint is a strategy document that helps with daily content planning
Process: How Vissilena’s content blueprint strategy works from start to finish
How to create your own content planning blueprint/framework for your company
Compare/Contrast: Plan different content pieces across different channels
Links:
Vassilena Valchanova
Content Marketing Blueprint: a Building Block for Content Excellence [Content Marketing Plan Template]
Andy Crestodina of Orbit Media Studios
Animalz
Wes Anderson
Ben Sailer on LinkedIn
CoSchedule
Quotes from Vassilena Valchanova:
“We don't spend enough time properly planning out what messages we’ll be sharing, what different types of content we’ll be promoting, and how we engage our audience in different channels and in different formats.”
“We start creating content that pretty much feels and looks the same because we're trying to push something out quicker and will go for just an image with a standardized template design rather than focusing on really creating something unique at that point.”
“What the content blueprint does is allow you to document that strategy in an easy-to-use format. ”
“The four different segments will be the mission statement, setting up the goals, channel plan, and topic plans.”
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AMP 271: How Can Marketers Win at Content Distribution in 2022 With Sarah Colley
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Content distribution is important, but most marketers struggle to understand how to distribute content effectively and efficiently. They create, publish, and push content out only to move onto the next piece before promoting and distributing the last one.
Today’s guest is Sarah Colley, a content marketer. She shares how to get started with distributing content or improve your current content distribution practice. It's time to start making distribution a real part of content strategy from the beginning.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
What is content distribution and what works with content distribution right now?
Repurposing: Seems to be everybody's standard definition of content distribution
Sarah’s Definition: Creating the right content and giving it to the right people
Content Distribution: If you don't have distribution, you don't get your content out
Underinvestment: Creating tons of content, but not taking time to distribute it
Follow Formula: Put article in a core distribution channel and places that share it
Build Better Relationships: Get to know new people who can spread your content
Links:
Sarah Colley on LinkedIn
Write Destination Agency
Help A Reporter (HARO)
Fiverr
HubSpot
Google Analytics
Bitly
Ben Sailer on LinkedIn
CoSchedule
Quotes from Sarah Colley:
“It's about building conversations around content. It looks a lot different. It's harder to implement, but when you do it right, it really works.”
“A lot of people focus on distribution in terms of traffic and getting seen by as many people as possible. I totally disagree.”
“You can do a lot of distribution for free, completely free, but it just comes down to time.”
“My best strategy is just developing relationships with people that have audiences and people that don't, people that may eventually have an audience.”
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AMP 270: The Top SEO Trends That SaaS Marketers Need to Know About in 2022 With Georgios Chasiotis From MINUTTIA
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The landscape for search engine optimization (SEO) changes constantly, so staying on top of trends is extremely important but not always easy for sustained success.
Today’s guest is Georgios Chasiotis, Managing Director of MINUTTIA, about what to focus on with SEO in 2022. He shares insight into what SEO tactics should be used or are overused, especially when it comes to software as a service (SaaS).
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Past, Present, and Future: SEO and SaaS marketing trends and tactics
Where are things at right now? Not multi-dimensional or complex
Alternative/Comparison Pages: Not aligned with website identity, but abused
Organic Search: Find more ways to be creative and bold about things
2021: What separated top SEO performers from struggling SaaS companies?
More/Better Experience: Google rewards websites that are trustworthy
Vanity Metrics: Not only way to measure success based on user experience
COVID Impact: Were there any behavior changes? Higher expectations
Future SEO Tactics: Which will become less important or effective in 2022?
Guest Blogging: Is it effective for reciprocal linking? Georgios advises against it
Content and Links: What most brands and websites compete against
Links:
Georgios Chasiotis on LinkedIn
MINUTTIA
CoSchedule’s Headline Analyzer
Ben Sailer on LinkedIn
CoSchedule
Quotes from Georgios Chasiotis:
“Unfortunately, what I see is pretty much all websites are doing what every other website is doing.”
“Try new things, experiment, and fail a lot of times in the process of discovering new ways of generating interest and demand for our websites.”
“SaaS companies have struggled when it comes to organic search.”
“Everyone can play the content and backlinks game. Not everyone can build a brand and not everyone can create a wow moment for their website visitors.”
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AMP 269: Understanding the HERO System to Create Better Video Ads With Matt Johnston
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When was the last time you saw an awesome online or social video ad? Did it impress you so much that you thought about buying the product or recommend it to someone? These days, a list of truly memorable video ads are few and far between.
Today’s guest is Matt Johnston with Guide Social, an agency that creates ads for all kinds of brands and products. Using and understanding the HERO System makes for memorable video ads that resonate.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Common Causes: Why most video ads fall flat or underperform
HERO System: Content checklist for social video ads to gain traction Hook
Empathy
Response
Over-deliver
4 Rs Process: Helps people work through video script to mirror customer journey Relate
Rile
Reveal
Release
Offer Opportunities: All businesses exist to solve problems
Results: Warm leads and increased conversion rates create affinity/PR affect
Social Video Ads: Brands that nailed it include Harmon Brothers, William Painter
Links:
Guide Social
Producing Empathy by Matt Johnston
HERO System by Matt Johnston
Matt Johnston on LinkedIn
Hydroviv
Shark Tank
Harmon Brothers
William Painter
ClickFunnels by Russell Brunson
Ben Sailer on LinkedIn
CoSchedule
Quotes from Matt Johnston:
“The biggest mistake that people make is that they focus way too much on features and their product and things like that rather than focusing on the avatar and empathy and trying to connect with that person and tying it back to their pain.”
“The reason that someone will buy something from you or sign up to be a lead in your company is - it has everything to do with their own selfish needs and desires.”
“If you want to move them to act, you need to emotionally resonate with them.”
“Nobody cares about what you sell. They care about opportunities that are available to them to solve their problems.”
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AMP 268: The Art of Generating More Customer Reviews With Denise Blasevick From The S3 Agency
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Who do you believe more? A marketer, your best friend, or complete stranger who bought your product or service and offers an honest opinion? Good or bad—what customers say matters.
Today’s guest is Denise Blasevick from The S3 Agency. Denise explains how to generate more positive reviews and how to handle negative reviews (or if you should deal with them at all).
Some of the highlights of the show include:
4- vs. 5-Star Reviews: Set expectations to humanize real customers’ opinions
Consumer Behavior Impact: More and more people read and trust reviews
No Comparison: Brand sites with positive reviews get others to buy from you
Negative Reviews: Unrealistic for companies to get none; acceptable for some
1-Star Reviews: Determine whether it’s worth trying to mollify bad review
Legitimate Review: Try to do something about your product/service if you can
Net Promoter Score (NPS): Contact biggest fans to review and recommend
Don’t Nag or Beg: Mistakes made when marketers try to get more reviews
Review Acquisition: Find natural points, cultivate journey, and reward randomly
Authentic Incentives: Give people guidelines to personalize focus of reviews
Metrics: Quantify and measure growth of impact with reviews of actual sales
Links:
Denise Blasevick on LinkedIn
Denise Blasevick on Twitter
The S3 Agency
Mike Michalowicz
Ben Sailer on LinkedIn
CoSchedule
Quotes from Denise Blasevick:
“Some people aren’t worth mollifying.”
“If they have a legitimate point, try to do something about it in terms of the way you deliver your product or service, if you can.”
“The volume has to be right. The kinds of reviews have to be right, and the stars have to be right.”
“Your sixth sense online is reviews.”
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AMP 267: How to Productize Consulting Services and Differentiate Yourself in a Crowded Market With Max Traylor
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Market consultants sometimes struggle to consistently meet expectations. Maybe it’s because they offer too many services in too many areas of expertise. The lack of focus leads to less differentiation in the crowded market and inability to set premium prices.
Today’s guest is Max Traylor, author of the Agency Survival Guide. Max talks about how consultants and agencies can avoid pitfalls by productizing their services. Get paid on perceived value.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Productized Consulting Services: Powerful way to package and sell services
Productization: Means doing things in steps for marketing and sales consulting
Consultants and Agencies: Consistency is not their middle name
Results: Quality of work, mental health, business impact, price premiums suffer
Strategy Over Implementation Services: Charge whatever, as much as you want
Sans Management: Make more money with less effort via strategic focus
Why productized approach? People experience two different sides of a business
Limiting Belief: Doing of things out of fear and hunger gets marketers paid
Imposter Syndrome: Are you good enough to sell your knowledge and process?
Get Started: Charge for proposals to accelerate experience charging for strategy
Advice: You can sell everything to anyone if you try 5 times; no need to be good
Ideal Client: Who are you talking to and will pay most for what you’re good at
Fulfillment: Limit sacrifices, simplify business by selling less, contributing more
Links:
Max Traylor - Productized Consulting Services
Max Traylor’s Agency Survival Guide
BEERS with Max Podcast and Blog
HubSpot
Ben Sailer on LinkedIn
CoSchedule
Quotes from Max Traylor:
“You use the same things and you go through the same steps so that you can set and meet expectations every time.”
“If there’s no consistency in what you do, you don’t experience price premiums. You’re never known for that one thing.”
“We spend a lot of time developing self-worth and an attachment to the thing that we’re doing.”
“Fill your calendar with conversations with people that will pay you the most for the thing that you are uniquely good at.”
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AMP 266: How to Fix Invoicing Issues and Get Freelance Writers Paid on Time With Matt Saincome From OutVoice
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Freelance writers know that getting paid can be difficult, and managers of freelance writers know why processing those payments is difficult to get paid on time or at all. Some companies don’t have simple invoicing systems or solutions for fixing what’s wrong with their invoicing processes.
Today’s guest is Matt Saincome, Co-Founder and CEO of OutVoice and The Hard Times. OutVoice is a freelancer/writer invoicing platform that pays them with one click. Matt explains how to fix invoicing issues and get freelance writers paid on time.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Payment Problem: There has got to be a better way, and now there is one
Publisher Problems: Tough business to make money, ad landscape has changed
Revenue-based Solutions: People don’t update/upgrade their tools elsewhere
Results: Businesses with inefficient tools, resources become rusted in place
Clicks and Revenue: Relies on effectively paying and retaining freelance writers
Mission: Waiting for check to pay rent? OutVoice positively impacts people’s lives
Paid or not on purpose? Reason is ancient, not automated/tiered invoice systems
Links:
OutVoice
The Hard Times
Matt Saincome’s Email
Matt Saincome on Twitter
Matt Saincome on LinkedIn
Mailchimp
Bill.com
DoNotPay
Ben Sailer on LinkedIn
CoSchedule
Quotes from Matt Saincome:
“The problem is very clear. It’s the way that content creators are paid for freelance work is stone-age-level bullshit. It’s nonsense. It shouldn’t be done this way.”
“People don’t get around to upgrading their tools elsewhere, and there’s these really intense inefficiencies that fester in their businesses.”
“OutVoice uses automation, CMS integration, and a more purpose-built invoicing solution.”
“If you have better tools, you’re going to like your co-workers a little bit more. You’re going to like your job a little bit more.”
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AMP 265 - How to Use YouTube to Drive Real Business Growth with Adrian Lurie From Dragonfruit Media
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Does your business have a presence on YouTube? Maybe it does not show much value or potential for it. YouTube may not be the best fit for the products and services that your business sells. How can you create content on YouTube to not miss opportunities to reach potential customers?
Today’s guest is Adrian Lurie from Dragonfruit Media, a video marketing agency that specializes in working with businesses and creators specifically on YouTube. He explains why your business should be on YouTube and how to drive measurable business growth from it.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
YouTube Marketing: How to drive real, meaningful business growth
Still skeptical? Video content marketing proof: 50% of Internet users look for videos on product/service before visiting store
Video is 50 times more likely to get organic page ranks than plain text
Landing pages with embedded videos have 20-30% higher conversion rates
YouTube Statistics: Second most visited web site (#1 is Google)
Third most visited search engine
Second largest social media site (#1 is Facebook)
Roadblocks: Slow down, establish trust to drive measurable growth, make impact
3 Content Categories: Discoverable, community focused, conversion focused
Engagement/Impression Metrics: Profitable action on YouTube to make purchase
Why be on YouTube? To align video content with business goals from the start
4-step audience-focused content process: Take persona view
Develop value proposition
Create content categories
Come up with video concept
Links:
Dragonfruit Media
Dragonfruit Media Email
TubeBuddy
BidIQ
Ben Sailer on LinkedIn
CoSchedule
Quotes from Adrian Lurie:
“Video is clearly a centerpiece of all online content and is becoming only more and more of such.”
“The nature of video is highly emotional and it engages more sensory perception than any other media.”
“Search your competitors on YouTube. At least one of them probably has a successful YouTube channel. They’re doing it and you’re not. They’re beating you.”
“Anyone can grow on YouTube. You have a million content marketers or SEO experts who all have hundreds of thousands of subscribers and they are all saying the same exact thing.”
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AMP 264: How to Apply the Content Fuel Framework and Never Run Out of Ideas With Melanie Deziel
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Marketers are creative people that tend to have a lot of ideas. So why is coming up with ideas when content creators, marketers, and problem solvers need them most is so difficult? There are a lot of reasons, but also a lot of simple solutions.
Today’s guest is Melanie Deziel, Director of Content at Foundation Inc. and author of The Content Fuel Framework. Melanie breaks down flawed assumptions about creativity in content and marketing and shares practical tips and processes to replace those assumptions to think more creatively and create better content.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Content Fuel Framework: System helps come up with creative content ideas
Ideation: Why is it difficult for marketers to resolve problems, lack processes
Creativity Constraints: Systems, guardrails, processes enable genius moments
Step 1: Stop thinking of content idea as single thing that is completely undefined
Step 2: Bring focus and format (i.e., article, video) to life and more organized
Outcomes: Content ideas become renewable resource, not limited supply
Links:
Melanie Deziel on Twitter
Melanie Deziel on LinkedIn
Storyfuel
Foundation Inc.
The Content Fuel Framework
The Organized Mind
Ben Sailer on LinkedIn
CoSchedule
Quotes from Melanie Deziel:
“The Content Fuel Framework is essentially a system that you can use to tap into your creativity when you need to come up with content ideas.”
“We are much more creative, much more productive, and much more efficient when we have some level of organization around the way we approach coming up with content ideas.”
“Stop thinking of content idea as a single thing that is completely undefined. It has parameters.”
“Creativity just seems so inherently unstructured that it’s like sacrilege to suggest that we put some limitations on it to help us get there.”
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AMP 263: How to Hack Consumer Behavior Using ZMOT (Zero Moment of Truth) With Paul Mackiewicz
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In 2011, Google introduced the term, Zero Moment of Truth (ZMOT), also known as the moment that a consumer decides to research a product or service online before they enter a store or contact a business. A lot has changed since Google conducted that research and published the ZMOT ebook. Now, it’s normal behavior and what consumers do online before deciding to make a purchase.
Today’s guest is Paul Mackiewicz, CEO and Founder of #Smart Marketing. He talks about how to hack consumer behavior using ZMOT. Businesses and marketers often overlook small details in their overall online presence that add up to a big difference between who wins or loses. Stay on the winning side by understanding when and where ZMOT happens for your customers.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Ebook: Explains how increased access to information impacts buying decisions
3-Step Marketing Process: Awareness, experience, and compare product/service
Business Directory/Review Management Systems: Convert eyeballs to invoices
Control Messaging/Ratings: First impressions are everything in most industries
ZMOT Concept: Who you choose based off your emotional reaction to info online
Build Business Persona: If you could be any celebrity online, who would you be?
Big Business Benefits: Foot traffic is less and people like to look and buy online
Getting Started: Claim Google, Yelp business listings, and get pro pics and tools
Future of Marketing: Know, like, and trust small businesses to do your marketing
Links:
ZMOT Expert
#Smart Marketing
Paul Mackiewicz on LinkedIn
Google - Winning the Zero Moment of Truth (ZMOT)
Google Business Listing
Yelp Business Listing
Canva
Hootsuite
Buffer
Paul Rudd
Ben Sailer on LinkedIn
CoSchedule
Quotes from Paul Mackiewicz:
“The best way really to conceptualize what ZMOT is, is just how our access to information through increased technology has changed how we get to that final decision-making process.”
“It’s very difficult to get eyeballs on your business, and what these directories and these review sites and social media allow you to do is quickly convert eyeballs to invoices.”
“Synergy - it’s a big thing with digital marketing, but I think a lot of marketing companies don’t talk about it enough and I think a lot of businesses don’t consider it enough.”
“It’s only going to become more and more important as foot traffic becomes less of a determiner - determination factor - for buying decisions.”
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AMP 262: Breaking the Sales and Marketing Mold Using Interactive Content With Isabelle Papoulias From Mediafly
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What is and constitutes interactive content that resonates? Is interactive content part of your business strategy? It’s not something that every brand does, but it represents a way that content and sales enablement has been done in the past to create experiences that better serve potential customers than static content.
Today’s guest is Isabelle Papoulias, CMO/Vice President of Marketing at Mediafly, where she oversees all of Mediafly's marketing efforts and works with its sales and business development teams to ensure continuous growth. She shares insights on how to break the sales and marketing mold using interactive content.
Some of the highlights of the show include:
Animated vs. Interactive: Mediafly makes clear distinction between two types
Interactive Content: Navigation helps create constant customer experience
Correct Content Usage: Helps marketers/sellers understand buyer behavior
Common Content Types: Case studies, product demos, and success stories
Site Analytics: Be better prepared for next interaction and serve relevant content
Getting Started: Pick one content asset of huge strategic importance to company
CLOSE Method: Challenge, Loss, Opportunity, Solution, Evidence for storytelling
Scale Up: Improve, apply interactive content to other pieces, platforms, people
Interactive Content Creation Tools: Mediafly, Reprise, and content agencies
Links:
Isabelle Papoulias on LinkedIn
Mediafly
Presentify
Mediafly’s Customers
Reprise
Netflix
Forbes Expert Contribution: 10 Steps To Ensure Your Pitch Stands Out To Large Clients
Ben Sailer on LinkedIn
CoSchedule
Quotes from Isabelle Papoulias:
“Interactive content is content that allows for navigation that helps create a very constant experience for the buyer, ultimately.”
“It’s interactivity of the service of creating a highly engaging and custom consumption experience that really meets the needs of the buyer.”
“Not only does it make for a more enjoyable experience, but I think in a remote world especially, there is an aspect of edutainment.”
“So much of the buyer journey now is digital without a live person, without a rep that I know I’m definitely feeling the pressure of content needing to, call it, sell harder on its own.”
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