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Join Alison Autumn June (@alison_coffee) and Em Marko (@em_being) on a journey through the entire filmography of Studio Ghibli twice a week! We take questions, talk about Miyazaki’s love of all things aerial, and generally relax in the balm of some of the most delightful anime on earth. Take a break and join us!
Join Alison Autumn June (@alison_coffee) and Em Marko (@em_being) on a journey through the entire filmography of Studio Ghibli twice a week! We take questions, talk about Miyazaki’s love of all things aerial, and generally relax in the balm of some of the most delightful anime on earth. Take a break and join us!
And Then, An Aeroplane 26 - The Boy and the Heron
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A podcast emerges from the mists of time with the hosts in very different places in their lives only to find that Miyazaki? That mfer is so goddamn the same.
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em on the Abnormal Mapping network! Listen to them both on this season of Around the Long Fire! If you want to hear them talk about a good movie, listen to the episode on The People’s Joker they did a few months back.
This Year’s Film:
The Boy and the Heron
Next Time:
???
57:04
And Then, An Aeroplane 25 - The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness
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It’s over! We have finally crossed the finish line with thoughts on Ghibli culture, Hideaki Anno, Goro the hero, our rankings of films, and the strange and difficult journey this podcast has been. Thanks for sticking with us through the ups and many many downs and I hope some day we can all sit down again and watch a new one of these and hopefully not just be mad about it.
Much love, find better cartoons than these.
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness
58:36
And Then, An Aeroplane 24 - Earwig and the Witch
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Here we are, a movie that literally came out while we were recording this podcast, bringing us to the end of new Ghibli movies for now! Also, turns out it’s a movie everyone hates. How do two veteran Ghibli haters fare? The answer might surprise you.
Please send all your questions and comments for our FINAL episode to abnormalmappingpodcast@gmail.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
Earwig and the Witch
Next Time:
The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness
58:30
And Then, An Aeroplane 23 - When Marnie Was There
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The final theatrical Ghibli movie (for now) brings us to the questions of what we actually want from films from this studio, a world without Miyazaki or Takahata, and the strange relationships of childhood colored by nostalgia and depression. Finally we can answer the burning question: was Marnie there?\r\nPlease send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com! \r\nYou can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project. \r\nThis Week’s Film:\r\nWhen Marnie Was There\r\nNext Time:\r\nEarwig and the Witch\r\n
51:59
And Then, An Aeroplane 22 - The Tale of the Princess Kaguya
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We dig into the final Takahata movie with a great sense of both wonder and sadness for the conflicting feelings that we find in this retelling of a classic folk tale. This one was difficult for both of us for differing reasons. Rip to a real one.
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
The Tale of the Princess Kaguya
Next Time:
When Marnie Was There
01:03:34
And Then, An Aeroplane 21 - The Wind Rises
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We’ve come to the pinnacle of Miyazaki, the film he retired* on, a movie I had always heard referred to as one of his greatest works. Welp, we did our best, and I hope you will understand. Maybe the next one will be better.
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
The Wind Rises
Next Time:
The Tale of the Princess Kaguya
57:21
And Then, An Aeroplane 20 - From Up on Poppy Hill
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A raucous episode as we talk Japanese history, Ghibli house style, trailer reactors to the new film, and most importantly GORO’S REVENGE! This was a fun one to podcast about, surprisingly!
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
From Up On Poppy Hill
Next Time:
The Wind Rises
53:42
And Then, An Aeroplane 19 - Arrietty
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The power of very small things and very little plot wins the day on this chill episode of And Then, An Aerooplane. Also, we get very distracted and talk about bullshit!
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
Arrietty
Next Time:
From Up On Poppy Hill
51:30
And Then, An Aeroplane 18 - Ponyo
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We return from our hiatus to talk about the joy of low ambitions and the power of abandoning all your high detail technology to go back to focusing on the art with Ponyo!
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
Ponyo
Next Time:
Arrietty
51:48
And Then, An Aeroplane 17 - Tales from Earthsea
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Today we’re here to talk about the tragic tale of Goro Miyazaki and the terrible movie he was forced to make. There’s very little of worth here, sorry, just enjoy us taking apart Earthsea. It wasn’t Goro’s fault.
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
Tales from Earthsea
Next Time:
Ponyo
51:36
And Then, An Aeroplane 16 - Howl's Moving Castle
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We return from a long hiatus to talk about what might be our most divisive take yet. What does it mean to get popular internationally? What does it mean to adapt a work that isn’t your own two decades after it’s release? What does it mean to show your whole ass trying to say something about the Iraq war? All this and more as we have rough ride on Howl’s Moving Castle!
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
Howl’s Moving Castle
Next Time:
Tales from Earthsea
01:01:46
And Then, An Aeroplane 15 - The Cat Returns
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What better way to follow up Spirited Away than a 75 minute sequel to a lesser known movie made for a theme park that never happened? That’s where we find ourselves today as Ghibli breaks out the Baron for another adventure and we enjoy the brief misadventures of a girl and some cats.
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
The Cat Returns
Next Time:
Howl’s Moving Castle
42:16
And Then, An Aeroplane 14 - Spirited Away
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We finally land on the most important Ghibli film for almost all western moviegoers as we tackle the behemoth that is Spirited Away! Do our memories of this movie hold up? Do we find ourselves in the same conundrums we struggled with during Kiki’s? A surprising series of twists and turns in this long episode. Thank you everyone for your many questions!
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
Spirited Away
Next Time:
The Cat Returns
01:13:05
And Then, An Aeroplane 13 - My Neighbors the Yamadas
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Our slightest film yet finds us at a loss for conversation but not a loss of heart as we discover that Takahata can just make a nice movie that doesn’t wreck your heart. Finally! Also, the delights of a movie that just looks better than traditional anime.
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
My Neighbors the Yamadas
Next Time:
Spirited Away
40:47
And Then, An Aeroplane 12 - Princess Mononoke
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We reach the halfway point of this adventure and come across one of the most famous and contentious movies yet. How do we feel about Miyazaki’s return to war and ecology? More importantly, can we stan Lady Eboshi while thinking she’s a villain? And finally, we must continue to ask: will Autumn ever read Nausicaa? All this and more.
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
Princess Mononoke
Next Time:
My Neighbors the Yamadas
01:05:37
And Then, An Aeroplane 11 - Whisper of the Heart
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We remain in New Tama which has just become Tama today as we explore the quieter feelings of what it means to be young and desire to create things. Because it’s us, we couldn’t help bring class into it, and no we will not apologize! Also, when exactly is teen love turning into getting married not the most embarrassing yet charming thing in the world? All this and more!
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
Whisper of the Heart
Next Time:
Princess Mononoke
01:18:07
And Then, An Aeroplane 10 - Pom Poko
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A historical record of the tanuki war, we find Takahata’s Pom Poko one of the most rewarding and difficult movies to watch and talk about since starting this project. Who would have thought the man who brought you Grave of the Fireflies could turn joy into sorrow so easily and profoundly? Who would have thought that themes of capitalism and imperialism and ecological disaster would be so resonant over two decades later? This one was a doozy.
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
Pom Poko
Next Time:
Whisper of the Heart
01:02:48
And Then, An Aeroplane 9 - Ocean Waves
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Finally we are divided on a movie. This week we look at the television film Ocean Waves, taking apart its chill aesthetics and light romance to see if it holds water or if it’s actually all washed up. I’m out of ocean puns, but that’s okay, because the movie is short.
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
Ocean Waves
Next Time:
Pom Poko
47:08
And Then, An Aeroplane 8 - Porco Rosso
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We return to one of both of our favorite films as we discuss the strange mix of new and familiar that is Porco Rosso. Everyone knows he’d rather be a pig than a fascist, but what does that actually mean in the context of this story? Also, we have our first protagonist that is a grown man since Lupin III, which lets us stop and reflect on how far Miyazaki’s come in terms of the things he cares about and how he portrays them. Join us in this episode about heroism, love, and staying on your bullshit in the face of history.
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
Porco Rosso
Next Time:
Ocean Waves
01:10:46
And Then, An Aeroplane 7 - Only Yesterday
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The first movie on this adventure that neither of us have seen, Only Yesterday bowls over both Autumn and Em with incredible storytelling and beautiful animation and design. Sometimes watching movies is just a delight, with no qualifications, and this week is absolutely one of those. I hope you all enjoy!
Please send all your questions and comments about this game or anything else to podcast@abnormalmapping.com!
You can listen to and support Autumn’s work at Export Audio and the Export Audio Patreon, and find Em mostly talking Gundam on The Great Gundam Project.
This Week’s Film:
Only Yesterday
Next Time:
Porco Rosso
01:11:00
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