Blacklisted

To celebrate the #BlackList2025 release, we're dropping a loaded bonus episode with Black List founder Franklin Leonard. Twenty-one years after its inception, the Black List has become Hollywood's most influential survey of unproduced screenplays - launching careers, reshaping industry gatekeeping, and proving that meritocracy can be an engine for diversity. As the 2025 list drops, we sit down with founder Franklin Leonard for an unflinching conversation about what's changed, what hasn't, and what comes next. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Franklin Leonard⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠BlueSky⁠ and ⁠⁠X⁠⁠ Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠I⁠nstagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠X⁠, ⁠TikTok ⁠and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Useful Links: ⁠Franklin on Substack⁠ ⁠The Black List on Substack⁠ ⁠The Annual Black List Archives⁠ Episode Sponsor: Hit the link ⁠⁠here⁠⁠ for 10% off Story and Plot's pro digital screenwriting courses, MASTERING STRUCTURE and IDEA TO OUTLINE.

Trevor White of Star Thrower Productions talks about how he and his brother Tim have built their producing careers by working hands-on with screenwriters to develop their scripts, then using the Black List as a spotlight tool to get the industry buzzing and help package projects with the right talent - a strategy that's led to some serious hits including King Richard (2021), where Zach Baylin's script about Venus and Serena Williams' father landed Will Smith his Oscar, The Post (2017), teaming Liz Hannah's Pentagon Papers script with Steven Spielberg, Meryl Streep, and Tom Hanks, and their latest Black List project, the rom-dramedy Eternity (2025), which just premiered at TIFF. White breaks down their writer-first approach, explaining how Star Thrower digs into the development trenches with screenwriters before strategically using the Black List to create buzz and attract directors and actors, turning promising scripts into actual movies that get made, while offering practical advice to aspiring writers about nailing character work, finding fresh takes on stories, and understanding how the right relationships and platforms can get your script from your laptop to the big screen. Useful links: Star Thrower Entertainment Website Trailer for rom-dramedy Eternity THR Interview with Tim and Trevor Deadline Article about 'With the 8th Pick' Film Courage Video Interview with Trevor

Get your copy of John's exceptional book here. What if every story you've ever loved - from ancient myths to Marvel blockbusters, from Shakespeare to The Sopranos - follows the exact same blueprint? Today we dive deep into John Yorke's revolutionary book "Into the Woods: How Stories Work and Why We Tell Them," the UK's bestselling screenwriting text that's required reading for story enthusiasts and professionals alike. Find this and other interviews on our new YouTube Channel. Yorke, the mastermind behind British TV hits like Shameless, Life on Mars, and EastEnders, argues that storytelling isn't just an art - it's hardwired into human perception itself. We explore his groundbreaking five-act structure, the neurological basis of narrative, and why understanding story structure can transform your writing from good to great. Whether you're a seasoned screenwriter or just starting your storytelling journey, this episode will change how you see every story around you. Guest Bio: John Yorke is one of the most influential figures in British television drama.  Former MD of Company Pictures where he Exec Produced Wolf Hall, he’s worked as both Head of Channel Four Drama and Controller of BBC Drama Production, where he was responsible for commissioning and producing some of the most beloved shows in British TV history, including Hustle, Spooks, Casualty, Holby City, Bodies, and Sex Traffic. His career began story-lining EastEnders during its first BAFTA-winning year, leading to a 14-year association that produced some of the biggest audiences in British television history. As a commissioning editor and executive producer, he championed defining works like Life On Mars, The Street, Shameless, and Waterloo Road. In 2005, he created the BBC Writers Academy, a year-long intensive training program that has produced a generation of successful television writers. John Yorke is now Managing Director of both Angel Station and John Yorke Story,  where he works as a drama producer, consultant and lecturer on all forms of storytelling.  He consults on narrative advertising across all broadcasting platforms including podcasting, presents his own weekly radio show Opening Lines about classic books on BBC Radio 4, and is also Visiting Professor of English Language and Literature at the University of Newcastle-upon-Tyne.  He lives in London but works as a story consultant worldwide. Useful links: BBC Writersroom Interview - John Yorke

Hit the following ⁠link⁠ for 10% off Story and Plot's pro digital screenwriting courses, MASTERING STRUCTURE and IDEA TO OUTLINE: ⁠www.storyandplot.com/blacklisted⁠ There you can sign up for Tom's weekly newsletter - it's a free screenwriting lesson in your inbox every Tuesday morning. It's also where you can find his FREE email course, SCREENWRITING FOR BEGINNERS, for those at the beginning of their journey. Discover why 90% of screenplay sales hinge on two crucial elements - and it's not what most writers think. Professional screenwriter Tom Vaughan exposes the industry's best-kept structural secrets, including the game-changing 8-sequence method that outperforms traditional 3-act structure. Learn why the story-vs-plot distinction separates amateur scripts from professional ones, and discover how proper structure actually unleashes creativity instead of constraining it. Tom Vaughan has written screenplays professionally for 28 years and taught the subject for 22. He has written for, among others, Phoenix Pictures, TNT, MTV Films, Castle Rock Entertainment, ABC, NBC, CBS, Warner Brothers, Sony Pictures, Disney, and others. He has also developed screenplays for Matthew McConaughey, Nicolas Cage, Barry Sonnenfeld, Chow-Yun Fat, Ruben Fleischer, David Gordon Green, and many more. WINCHESTER, the film he co-wrote starring Helen Mirren and Sarah Snook, about the infamous Winchester Mystery House, opened nationwide in 2018 and his eighth film, THE HAUNTING OF THE QUEEN MARY was released in 2023. One of his big life goals was to teach screenwriting at my beloved alma mater, The University of Houston. Which he now does. Check out the video of this interview on our new YouTube Channel. Useful links: Michael Arndt's incredible screenwriting videos Trailer to Tom's recent film, WINCHESTER Interview with playwright Edward Albee - Tom's teacher

In our season two finale, we speak to screenwriter Justin Kremer, who made history as the first writer to be signed via The Black List website just six weeks after its launch. Six weeks later, he landed on the annual Black List for his historical political biopic McCarthy, which chronicles the rise and fall of 1950s Senator Joseph R. McCarthy. The script explores McCarthy's tenure as the most visible face of Cold War-era fears about communist subversion in America, culminating in the televised Army-McCarthy hearings of spring 1954, where the senator's claims of communist infiltration in the U.S. Army ultimately led to his downfall. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Justin Kremer on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠, Letterbox⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠d and X Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠storyandplot.com/blacklisted⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for a 10% discount on Tom Vaughan's fantastic screenwriting courses. Useful links: Wall Street Journal Article Interview w/The Bitter Script Reader Black List Blog - Go Into The Story Interview Deadline Article on First Website Discovery

This week on Blacklisted, we sit down with screenwriter Shea Mayo to dive into the bloody good journey of their spec script Crush on You - a love letter to '80s slasher films and ‘90s teen horror that caught Hollywood's attention and landed on the prestigious Black List in 2020. Mayo breaks down how she channeled the iconic terror of Nightmare on Elm Street and other genre classics into a fresh, contemporary horror story. Whether you're a screenwriter looking to break through, a horror fan curious about the genre's evolution, or just want to know what it takes to get Sydney Sweeney's attention, this episode delivers the goods. Plus, we'll discuss why the '80s slasher aesthetic continues to captivate modern audiences and how to write horror that bleeds off the page. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Shea Mayo⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠storyandplot.com/blacklisted⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for a 10% discount on Tom Vaughan's fantastic screenwriting courses.

Today we're talking with Colin Bannon, a screenwriter who's made the prestigious Black List a record seven times with his genre-bending thrillers and survival horror scripts. We're diving into his breakthrough screenplay "The Interventionist," which landed on the 2018 Black List and follows a drug-addicted interventionist trying to help his own daughter, only to discover something far more sinister than addiction lurking beneath the surface. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Colin Bannon⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠storyandplot.com/blacklisted⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for a 10% discount on Tom Vaughan's fantastic screenwriting courses. Useful links: 'Long Lost' - Short Story Sale 'Don't Look' - Short Story Sale TriStar Lands 'Ultra' - Survival Thriller Spec Netflix wins 'First Ascent'

Multi-hyphenate talent Leah McKendrick joins us to dive deep into her romantic comedy screenplay Voicemails for Isabelle, which earned a coveted spot on the 2019 Black List. Now McKendrick is bringing her vision to life as the film's director, with Netflix set to release the project featuring Nick Robinson and Zoey Deutch in the leading roles. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leah McKendrick on ⁠⁠X⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠storyandplot.com/blacklisted⁠⁠⁠⁠ for a 10% discount on Tom Vaughan's fantastic screenwriting courses. Useful links: Original Director (as discussed) - Deadline Netflix Announcement - Leah now at the helm - Deadline Universal Monster Movie - Deadline Voicemails for Isabelle - Scriptshadow Review Leah McKendrick - Scriptshadow Interview Scrambled Interview - Script Magazine

In the sixth episode of season two, we're joined by writer David Lee Williams (or is it Hawk?) to discuss his ⁠2022 Black List⁠ script Clementine — a high-octane thriller with the real-time propulsion of Run Lola Run, fueled by the visceral maternal energy of J.Lo's The Mother. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠David L Williams⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠X⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky⁠⁠⁠ Visit ⁠⁠⁠storyandplot.com/blacklisted⁠⁠⁠ for a 10% discount on Tom Vaughan's fantastic screenwriting courses. Useful links: 'Forever Purge' Director to Helm Thriller 'Clementine' Deadline Article on Director Attachment Scriptshadow - 'Clementine' Review and Interview Go Into The Story - David L Williams Interview w/Scott Myers

In the fifth episode of season two, we're joined by actor, writer and human rights activist, Alyssa Ross to talk about her Michael Phelps biopic, Resurfaced, which featured on the 2022 Black List. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alyssa Ross⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠X⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky⁠⁠⁠ Visit ⁠⁠⁠storyandplot.com/blacklisted⁠⁠⁠ for a 10% discount on Tom Vaughan's fantastic screenwriting courses. Useful links: TV Pilot Trailer - The Humanitarians Alyssa's Website Mentioned Article about Resurfaced on SwimSwam

In our fourth episode of season two, we're joined by spec king, Dan Kunka to discuss his ⁠2014 Black List⁠ script, Yellowstone Falls - a 52-page script with minimal dialogue and few human characters. Set in a post-apocalyptic world where a catastrophic event has stripped the humanity from most survivors, leaving them as mutated threats. At its core, it's the story of a mother wolf who becomes separated from her mate when their pack flees to safety. Now alone, she must defend her cubs from an oncoming swarm of these dehumanized creatures. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dan Kunka⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠X⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠BlueSky⁠ Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky⁠⁠⁠ Visit ⁠⁠⁠storyandplot.com/blacklisted⁠⁠⁠ for a 10% discount on Tom Vaughan's fantastic screenwriting courses. Useful links: Deadline - QED buys 'Yellowstone Falls' Deadline - 'Lift' Spec Sale Final Draft - Spec Spotlight: Lift Creative Screenwriting - Interview

In the third episode of season two, we're joined by former journalist Anna Klassen (Newsweek, The Daily Beast, BuzzFeed) to discuss her 2017 Black List script When Lightning Strikes — a coming-of-age story exploring the early life of J.K. Rowling, the novelist who conjured the magical world of Harry Potter. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Anna Klassen ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on X, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ and BlueSky Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky⁠⁠ Visit ⁠⁠storyandplot.com/blacklisted⁠⁠ for a 10% discount on Tom Vaughan's fantastic screenwriting courses. Useful links: Final Draft - How Anna Klassen Turned Competition Wins into a Thriving Career Canvas Rebel - Meet Anna Klassen The Cosmophage - Anna Klassen The Script Lab - Interview Into The Script - Taking The Industry By Storm: An Interview with Screenwriter Anna Klassen Shoutout LA - Meet Anna Klassen | Screenwriter

In our second episode of season two, we welcome Travis Braun to the podcast to discuss his 2022 Black List script, Dying For You. Travis made Black List history in December 2024, by becoming the first writer to top the list twice - and if that wasn't enough, he did it in successive years! Well done, TB. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Travis Braun⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky⁠ Visit ⁠storyandplot.com/blacklisted⁠ for a 10% discount on Tom Vaughan's fantastic screenwriting courses. Useful links: Deadline - Travis Braun and Black List make history Deadline - 'One Night Only' sells to Universal Deadline - 'Bad Boy' package taken to EFM

In our Season 2 premiere, we welcome Elyse Hollander to discuss her 2016 Black List-topping script Blonde Ambition—a Madonna biopic chronicling the pop icon's rise through the sexism-fueled music industry of the early 1980s. After selling to Universal with Michael De Luca producing, the project sparked massive controversy when Madonna herself took to social media to publicly denounce it. For the first time, Elyse opens up about the media firestorm, the personal toll of being targeted by one of the world's biggest stars, and what it's really like when your breakthrough script becomes a lightning rod for public debate. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠Elyse Hollander ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky Visit storyandplot.com/blacklisted for a 10% discount on Tom Vaughan's fantastic screenwriting courses. Useful links: New York Times article on Madonna criticism BBC fact-check Elyse's screenplay THR article on Madonna controversy Deadline article on Madonna reaction People - 'Madonna to write and direct her own biopic' Madonna's Netflix limited series announcement Maybe kindly buy our host a ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email us @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theblacklisted.pod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Happy New Year! Let us be the first to welcome you to 2025! Today we bring you a special - surprise - episode with screenwriting career coach, Lee Jessup. May Lee provide you with inspiration to kickstart the new year as you stare at that fresh blank page - full of potential. Take a Deeper Dive: The script consultant that both our host and Crosby Selander have employed is Andrew Hilton who goes by the pseudonym:The Screenplay Mechanic. His services can be accessed here. Competition details for Script Pipeline can be found here. Lee Jessup recently hosted the Final Draft Write On podcast, discussing the state of the industry for screenwriters with Bellevue manager, Jeff Portnoy. Listen to the packed episode here. Guest: Lee Jessup⁠ on ⁠Instagram⁠ and X Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠BSky If you can stretch to it, maybe kindly tip your host with a ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠BSky⁠⁠⁠ Email us @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theblacklisted.pod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

In our final bonus episode with lit managers of season one, we speak with producer Kate Sharp of Bellevue Productions. Kate is the lit manager of season one guests: Alexandra Tran and Jessica Welsh. Take a Deeper Dive: Interesting article about the curious case of copyright as it applies to Frank Capra's It's A Wonderful Life - here. The script we talk about that sold for $2M to MGM Amazon Studios was a spec by Nyad scribe, Julia Cox. Article link here. After Kate and I spoke, another spec hit the market (Alignment) about the travails of AI - this time from an unknown, unrepped screenwriter - and sold for $1.25M (against $3.25M) to Fifth Season. Link to that story here. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠Kate Sharp on Instagram Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠BSky⁠⁠ If you can make the stretch, maybe kindly tip your host with a ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠BSky⁠⁠ Email us @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theblacklisted.pod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

In our third of four bonus episodes with lit managers, we speak with genre aficionado Matthew Dartnell of Writ Large. Matt is the lit manager of season one guest: Austin Everett. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Dartnell⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠ Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠BSky⁠ If you can, maybe kindly tip your host with a ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠BSky⁠ Email us @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theblacklisted.pod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

In our second bonus episode with literary managers, we speak with the manager of our very own host, Chris Coggins, over at Heroes and Villains Entertainment. Chris is the lit manager of season one guest: Noga Pneuli. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Coggins ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram and X Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and BSky If you can, maybe kindly tip your host with a ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and BSky Email us @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theblacklisted.pod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

In our first bonus episode, we speak with John Zaozirny - the founder and head of Bellevue Productions. John is the literary manager of season one guests: Ian Shorr, Kevin Sheridan and Sophia Lopez. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠John Zaozirny ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠⁠X Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you can, maybe kindly tip your host with a ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email us @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theblacklisted.pod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

In our final episode of season one, we welcome Austin Everett to the pod to discuss his ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠2019 Black List⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ adaptation of the 'grounded' sci-fi novel, The Traveler. Guest: ⁠⁠Austin Everett⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠Instagram⁠ Based on the novella written by Joseph Eckert 'Impressive' Scriptshadow Review for The Traveler Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Season Sponsors: Scrivener - Download the Outliner ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Final Draft - Upgrade to Version 13 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠                     Download Full Version ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ For Exclusive, Ad-Free Episodes, join us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Or, maybe kindly buy our host a ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email us @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theblacklisted.pod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠