Breaking the Binary
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Breaking the Binary

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Breaking the Binary is a podcast from Women and Gender Diverse People in Technology hosted by Arden Jarrett and Sarah Frazer, dedicated to highlighting the experiences of women and gender-diverse individuals in the tech industry. Each episode features a new guest who shares their journey through the tech space, from getting started, to what they’ve learned along the way and all the ups and downs throughout. With a mission to provide a platform for underrepresented voices in the industry, the podcast aims to inspire listeners to pursue their passions in technology, promote diversity and inclusion in the field and have a little fun along the way.

Breaking the Binary is a podcast from Women and Gender Diverse People in Technology hosted by Arden Jarrett and Sarah Frazer, dedicated to highlighting the experiences of women and gender-diverse individuals in the tech industry. Each episode features a new guest who shares their journey through the tech space, from getting started, to what they’ve learned along the way and all the ups and downs throughout. With a mission to provide a platform for underrepresented voices in the industry, the podcast aims to inspire listeners to pursue their passions in technology, promote diversity and inclusion in the field and have a little fun along the way.

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Why gender inclusion? Pronouns, language, and believing women

In this episode of "Breaking the Binary," Sarah and Arden dive deep into the importance of gender diversity in the workplace and beyond. Our discussion covers critical topics such as the distinction between sex and gender, and the true meaning of gender diversity—it's more than just including women. We explore the significance of using the correct pronouns and how language plays a powerful role in reinforcing social positions. We'll also discuss practical approaches for fostering a more inclusive environment, including gender-neutral terms for addressing groups, and why it's crucial to treat women and gender-diverse individuals with respect by genuinely listening to their experiences. We challenge the conventional approach of questioning why women aren’t applying to your organisation, instead flipping the narrative to consider what your organisation offers women and gender-diverse people, and why they would want to work for you. We hope you find this episode interesting, we can’t wait to hear your thoughts.  Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. Resources: https://immi.se/intercultural/article/view/11149-Balamuralietal-sp https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/the-dance-connection/202102/are-you-girl-lady-or-woman-why-language-matters https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/jul/05/the-authority-gap-by-mary-ann-sieghart-review-why-women-are-still-taken-less-seriously-than-men-and-what-we-can-do-about-it
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01:01:57

Confidence & Competence with Teddy

In this episode of "Breaking the Binary," we chat Confidence and competence with Teddy. Teddy’s background is diverse, covering multiple roles at a fast-paced privately owned SaaS company in Newcastle. The article that’s the foundation of this discussion is ‘Why do so many incompetent men become leaders?’ By Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, published in 2013. We discuss what makes someone competent and how gender actually influences your perceived competence. We talk about the balance between self promotion and being authentic. The benefits of an equal society are brushed on, how Teddy looks for mentors, or decides it’s time to move on and leading to your values.   We hope you find this episode interesting, we can’t wait to hear your thoughts.  Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. Articles that contributed to the discussion today: https://hbr.org/2013/08/why-do-so-many-incompetent-men?utm_medium=paidsearch&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=domcontent_bussoc&utm_term=Non-Brand&tpcc=domcontent_bussoc&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAi6uvBhADEiwAWiyRdtuQ5uJAUATSOxro8wRz4Y5PM5ZWClDY_TpQoY3Y7w1kGfCp2S18_xoC4J0QAvD_BwE https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomaspremuzic/2020/05/31/why-do-many-competent-people-fail-to-become-leaders/?sh=28ba1c1d8fc4 https://www.forbes.com/sites/joefolkman/2021/07/15/dont-fake-it-till-you-make-it-match--confidence-to-competence/?sh=787ac3723a94 https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellevate/2019/09/05/inspiration-for-the-timid-confidence-does-not-equal-competence/?sh=45fadfd89167 https://hbr.org/2019/03/to-seem-more-competent-be-more-confident https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/confidence-competence-which-wins-out-julia-ruane/ https://www.thedesignthinkers.com/thinking/confidence-is-not-competence https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/jul/05/the-authority-gap-by-mary-ann-sieghart-review-why-women-are-still-taken-less-seriously-than-men-and-what-we-can-do-about-it https://www.amazon.com.au/Authority-Gap-women-still-seriously-ebook/dp/B08JGM3KGL
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01:05:40

Tech PR and Impact with Sheena Martin

In this episode of "Breaking the Binary," we delve into PR for Tech and the media's impact on the reach of tech. Joined by Sheena Martin who throughout her career has has worked extensively at the intersection of research, innovation, education and communications. Her work has a global footprint, having appeared in outlets including The Australian, The Guardian, BBC, TIME Magazine, Reuters, National Geographic and The Discovery Channel. We cover the importance of PR in translating complex technology and innovations and communicating the impact to the public. We also discuss; setting big goals, crisis media, diversity of those quoted in media and much more. We hope you find this episode interesting, we can’t wait to hear your thoughts.  Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online.
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Identity, success and being an expert with Dr Jessica Allen

In this episode of "Breaking the Binary," we delve into identity, success and being an expert with Dr. Jessica Allen. Dr Jessica Allen is currently a Senior Lecturer in Chemical and Renewable Energy Engineering at the University of Newcastle. Her research focuses on developing technology that can use renewable electricity for manufacturing green products from steel and aluminium to carbon and fuels like hydrogen and ammonia. Dr Allen is an engineer, a proud Novocastrian and mum of two (three if you include the dog…) who enjoys mountain biking and tap dancing. We talk about the question asked to kids “what do you want to be when you grow up?”. How building an identity as an adult is often about more than work, having multiple careers and focusing our energy on what bring us value and what problems we want to solve in the world.  We hope you find this episode interesting, we can’t wait to hear your thoughts.  Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. Articles that contributed to this episodes discussion: https://www.forbes.com/sites/85broads/2011/04/14/why-is-it-that-women-are-seen-as-less-competent/?sh=7164ab97394d https://hbr.org/2007/07/the-making-of-an-expert https://tomsmith585.medium.com/why-i-hate-asking-kids-what-will-you-be-when-you-grow-up-e464b831d6f3 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/smarter-living/stop-asking-kids-what-they-want-to-be-when-they-grow-up.html https://shedefined.com.au/career/why-your-job-doesnt-define-your-identity/ https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1502567112
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01:02:52

Feeling like an Imposter with Annie Chayko

In this episode of 'Breaking the Binary,' we delve into the often unspoken struggles of feeling like an imposter in the workplace. Join us as we sit down with Annie Chayko, the Engineering Service Manager for the locally built RAN Minehunter in-service-support at Thales, Carrington. Annie shares her journey from the early days of her career to her current role, providing an honest and vulnerable conversation about the challenges she’s come across, often as the only woman in an engineering space.  We talk about how feeling like an imposter is often a natural result of the environment we are in, especially in man dominated spaces; spaces that aren’t designed for women or gender-diverse people. We hope you’re encouraged to lean into what makes you special and know that your experiences, especially the hard ones, are an asset to you and make you who you are.  We hope you find this episode interesting, we can’t wait to hear your thoughts.  Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. Articles that contributed to the discussion: https://hbr.org/2021/02/stop-telling-women-they-have-imposter-syndrome https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/16/impostor-syndrome-class-unfairness https://www.glamour.com/story/impostor-syndrome-isnt-a-syndrome-its-a-scheme https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/02/13/the-dubious-rise-of-impostor-syndrome
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Diversity as a Strategic Tool with Claire Quigley

Welcome back to Breaking the Binary, we sit down with special guest Claire Quigley, Founder and Director of Launchpad9, to explore how diversity serves as a powerful tool for driving organisational success. We delve into the fundamental definitions of diversity, and discuss the importance of diversity in fostering better outcomes and the critical role of diverse leadership in organisational performance. Despite evidence supporting the benefits of gender diversity, the conversation shifts to why there remains a significant gender gap in corporate leadership and what actionable steps can be taken to address it. We also explore strategies for holding managers accountable for promoting diversity and making inclusive hiring decisions, as well as ways employees can drive inclusion up to leadership levels. We hope you find this episode interesting, we can’t wait to hear your thoughts.  Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. Articles that contributed to the discussion today: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesinsights/2020/01/15/diversity-confirmed-to-boost-innovation-and-financial-results/?sh=28caf904c4a6 https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbescoachescouncil/2020/11/16/diversity-isnt-an-outcome-its-a-strategy-for-business-success/?sh=42ffde7644d5 https://hbr.org/2004/09/diversity-as-strategy https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesbusinesscouncil/2023/08/16/the-power-of-diversity-and-inclusion-driving-innovation-and-success/?sh=1a02787b2505
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01:19:40

Get to know Annie Lacombe

Welcome back to Breaking the Binary, brought to you by Coded Diversity. In this episode, hosts Arden Jarrett and Sarah Frazer delve into the vital topic of sponsorship and mentorship in the tech and engineering industries. Joined by special guest Annie Lacombe, Engineering and Safety Manager at MGA Thermal, they explore the nuanced differences between sponsorship and mentorship and discuss their impacts on career progression, particularly for women in male-dominated fields. Drawing on Annie's extensive experience in the manufacturing industry, the conversation highlights the necessity of sponsorship for women's career advancement and the role of both men and women in fostering a more equitable workplace. Tune in for insightful discussions on building trust, providing constructive feedback, overcoming fear of success, and amplifying the visibility of women in technology. Plus, discover actionable strategies for organisations to support diverse talent and hold managers accountable. Don't miss out on this enriching episode packed with valuable insights and practical advice. Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s ⁠website⁠,⁠ LinkedIn⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠ and ⁠Meetup⁠ for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. --- Articles that contributed to the discussion today: ⁠https://hbr.org/2019/08/a-lack-of-sponsorship-is-keeping-women-from-advancing-into-leadership⁠ ⁠https://time.com/charter/6304775/why-more-men-should-become-sponsors-for-women/⁠ ⁠ https://www.forbes.com/sites/joanmichelson2/2023/05/31/how-to-advance-womens-careers-with-sponsorships/?sh=418ee5f8738e⁠ ⁠ https://hbr.org/2021/06/dont-just-mentor-women-and-people-of-color-sponsor-them⁠ ⁠ https://hbr.org/2023/01/women-get-nicer-feedback-and-it-holds-them-back⁠ --- See our website: https://codeddiversity.org Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/codeddiversity
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Let's get chatty - season 2 kick-off!

Welcome back to Breaking the Breaking the Binary, your favourite podcast delving into the world of diversity and inclusion in the tech industry! Join us, your hosts, Arden Jarrett and Sarah Frazer, as we kick off Season 2. From the recording studio in Newcastle, Australia, on the traditional lands of the Awabakal people, we bring you up to speed on what’s been happening since the last season and unveil our perhaps ambitious plans for 2024. In this episode, we dive into updates on the podcast, and plans for this season. We want to know your questions! DM us with your professional dilemmas, suggestions for topics, guest speaker recommendations, even put your own hand up and let us know if you’re keen to be on the podcast.  We get into why we started our exciting new non-profit organisation, Coded Diversity, and chat about upcoming meetups in Sydney, the benefits of sponsoring these events, and our event at the upcoming /NEW conference. With a lovely chunk of unstructured banter, we also share our favourite podcast episodes recorded so far, personal goals for the year, and random fun facts. So, whether you’re a seasoned listener or tuning in for the first time, grab your headphones and join the conversation! Don’t forget to visit Coded Diversity’s website and social media channels for more information and to show your support. And if you enjoy the podcast, be sure to leave a glowing review, tell your friends, and spread the word online. https://codeddiversity.org/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ https://www.instagram.com/codeddiversity/
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Setting yourself up for leadership - WGDPTech Panel Event Special

The Women and Gender Diverse People in Tech are ending the year of wonderful monthly events with a bang - putting together our first-panel event! As voted by our members (on Slack and Linkedin, give us a follow ❤️), our topic for the night will be; how to set yourself up for leadership! We’re super excited to have some exceptional women leaders on this panel including Beck Sheperd, Cathy Lill and Linda Apostolidis! Everyone is welcome to this event, regardless of gender so share it with your friends. Through these speaker events, we aim to share experiences and knowledge, that's how we learn, and that's how we can improve the community for everyone. --- See our website: https://codeddiversity.org Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/codeddiversity
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01:14:17

Season 1 Wrap Up

It's the final episode of the season! In this podcast, we recap what we’ve achieved through this year, reflect on some of our favourite moments and look towards what next year holds for us. We also bust the myth of “rope learning” versus “rote learning”, how we’ve grown into our roles and the results of our personal life energy audits. Send us a DM of who you'd like to see on season 2! Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everyone_belongs_in_tech/
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Get to Know Sophie Benjamin

This episode of Breaking the Binary features Sophie Benjamin, a Content Designer at Canva. During this podcast co-hosts Arden Jarrett and Sarah Frazer talk with Sophie about how she has evolved through four career changes. We also touch on how there’s room for a range of non-conventional skills in technology, the positive impact of working from home, how Sophie has approached maintaining her own mental health, and how she strives to make technology accessible for everyone.   Send us a DM of who you'd like to see on season 2! Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everyone_belongs_in_tech/  
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Get To Know Tracey Hamilton

Our special guest for this episode of Breaking the Binary is Tracey Hamilton. Tracey runs her own business Moveo from the Hunter/ Port Stephens area and has worked on many exciting projects since settling in the region.  This episode is a discussion between the three of us on multiple topics including; fashion tech, design clothing for non-binary people and functional needs, sustainable fashion, embracing your differences, childhood career aspirations, mushroom facts, connecting with nature, AI reimaging childhood photos for transgender people, access to talent and capital in regional Australia, emotional awareness and growth, and much much more!  *Trigger warning: mention of sexual assault* Send us a DM of who you'd like to see on season 2! Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everyone_belongs_in_tech/  
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Get to Know Ellen Bennett

Our special guest for this episode of Breaking the Binary is Ellen Bennett. Ellen started her career in London, learning valuable lessons about resilience and the recruitment industry.  We talk about the gender balance in tech, and essential skills in design (spoiler, it's the soft, communication skills). Ellen hosts her own podcast 'Digitally Diverse', we talk about enjoying passionate conversations and the changing tech landscape.  Oh and don't forget - Sarah would love to know your mushroom facts, send us a DM! Find Ellen's Podcast 'Digitally Diverse' here: https://newytechpeople.com.au/podcast/ Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everyone_belongs_in_tech/  
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Get to Know Arden Cassie

Our special guest for this episode of Breaking the Binary is Arden Cassie. Arden has a rich background in technology and is currently working as a high school teacher. She talks through what drew her into technology, what made her leave and why she’s looking to get back into it again. We also discuss her personal experience as a transgender woman, some of Arden's critical activism work, and how she’s helping create a better community for everyone.  Possible Trigger Warning - we briefly discuss depression and suicidal feelings. If you would like to avoid this, skip through sections 9:30 - 12:00 Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everyone_belongs_in_tech/
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Get to Know Rebecca Shephard

In this episode of Breaking the Binary, Arden Jarrett and Sarah Frazer talk to Rebecca Shepherd, the General Manager of Alpha Echo. Beck is an army veteran who has taken her years of experience with the Australian Defence Force and transferred it to growing a thriving security company. During this episode, we talk to Beck about how she’s created a workplace filled with good humans, how she’s navigated the transition from military life to business and some of the learnings she’s had along the way. Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everyone_belongs_in_tech/
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Get to Know Tricia Martin

In this episode of Breaking the Binary, Arden Jarret and Sarah Frazer talk to Tricia Martin, the founder of Nudge On. Tricia is an inspirational founder with a rich story to tell. Over this episode, we’ll talk about Tricia’s experiences as a woman founder, how she uses nudge theory to make a positive difference and how her varied background has set her up for success in leading her own company. We’ll also cover which Hogwarts House Tricia and Arden align with, and have a lot of fun along the way. Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Follow us on Instragram: https://www.instagram.com/everyone_belongs_in_tech/ Nudge On Website: https://www.nudgeon.com.au/ Find Tricia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tricia-martin-nudgeon/  
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Get to know Jacqueline Garrett (Jax)

This episode of Breaking the Binary features Jacqueline Garrett, also known as Jax. Jax talks about her experience founding her own business GGWP Academy in Influencer Tech. She explains how she found Influencer Tech, and discusses managing a diverse remote team, based in different countries. Jax also talks about the biases in the capital raising scene and how she learned to identity strongly as a 'woman founder' and growing to support other women in the industry. We were so happy to finally meet Jax, and hope you enjoy learning about her as much as we did! Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ Follow us on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/everyone_belongs_in_tech/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech  
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Get to Know Arden Jarrett

This episode of Breaking the Binary features the other one of Newcastle Women and Gender Diverse’s co-founders and podcast host, Arden Jarrett. Sarah interviews Arden, who is the Marketing Manager at MGA Thermal. In this interview, Arden talks about how they landed their position as first-paid non-founder at the energy storage company. She also talks about neurodiversity, how to increase the diversity in your organisation, how to have your voice heard and the growing pains that happen in quickly scaling startups. Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech Find Arden on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arden-jarrett/  
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Get to Know Sarah Frazer

This episode of Breaking the Binary features one of Newcastle Women and Gender Diverse’s co-founders and podcast host, Sarah Frazer. Sarah is passionate about promoting equity in technology, and in this interview with Arden Jarrett, Sarah covers how previous experience has shaped this passion and continues to drive her community engagement. Sarah talks about changing careers, being okay with making mistakes, dealing with discrimination in the workplace and much more. Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech  
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42:55

All About Breaking the Binary

In our first episode of Breaking the Binary, by Newcastle Women and Gender Diverse People (WGDPTech), Arden Jarrett and Sarah Frazer offer context around what the podcast and group do. In this episode, we discuss why, how and when we joined forces to create WGDPTech, what our goals are for the group and what we’re excited about in the coming year. We also take time to talk through how this podcast fits into the group's overarching mission. It’s a great chance to find out more about the group, the podcast and the founders so we hope you enjoy it! Join our Meetup group: https://www.meetup.com/newcastle-women-and-gender-diverse-people-in-tech/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/newcastle-women-gender-diverse-people-in-tech  
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