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Come listen to what's hot in web development! Interviews and conversations with top professionals.
Come listen to what's hot in web development! Interviews and conversations with top professionals.
DevEd 039: Learning & Using ASP.NET
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This episode of the DevEd podcast is joined by special guest Thomas Desmond. Thomas is a software engineer currently working with .NET and Angular, has been a university instructor for three years and has a course coming up on Thinkster.io - Creating an API with ASP.NET Core. He defines ASP.NET, and describes its relation to ASP.NET Core. He explains the process of working with .NET on a Mac, differences between Visual Studio Code and Visual Studio Mac 2019, and the learning curve involved in C# and types languages such as TypeScript.
The panelists share their learning transition from .NET to other languages and frameworks such as Angular, React and vice versa. They talk about the hurdles as well as effective strategies in learning ASP.NET, why is .NET considered to be Microsoft-specific, how does it compare to technologies such as Rails or Node, cloud development, and discuss reasons why bootcamps don't generally focus on learning ASP.NET. They end the show with picks.
Panel
Brooke Avery
Luis Hernandez
Mike Dane
Jesse Sanders
Lukas Ruebbelke
Joined by special guest: Thomas Desmond
Sponsors
Thinkster.io
Ruby Rogues
CacheFly
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Links
Thomas's Twitter
Creating a C# ASP.Net Core API - Introduction
Picks
Thomas Desmond:
The Fearless Organization: Creating Psychological Safety in the Workplace for Learning, Innovation, and Growth
Luis Hernandez:
Visual Studio Dev Essentials
ASP.NET
Mike Dane:
Alta 21 Pack
Jesse Sanders:
Taxi Driver
Bike Helmet
Garmin watches
Lukas Ruebbelke:
Ed Motta
Kurt Elling
Brooke Avery:
Noah Kahan - Busyhead
Biteable
The DevEd podcast is produced by Thinkster.io and published by DevChat.TV.
Question #1: What is ASP.NET?
Open source web application framework used to develop and build web apps using .NET.
Question #2: How to use .NET on a Mac?
Use Visual Studio for Mac, good support available.
Question #3: What are some hurdles in learning ASP.NET?
Understanding and reinforcing the idea that there is an API between the application and the server.
Question #4: What are some effective tips while learning .NET?
Do a lot of examples, repetitions, discuss questions with other students.
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DevEd 038: Learning Testing & TDD
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In this episode of the DevEd podcast, the panel discusses Testing and Test Driven Development. They start the conversation by talking about automated testing with the help of unit tests using various tools available. Luis explains the terms regression testing, refactoring, mocking, continuous integration and continuous delivery (CI/CD).
Everyone shares their experience with testing, mainly how and when they started learning automated testing and their journey with it so far. They then dive into the learning aspect of testing including some of the best ways to learn unit testing and give great tips and tools along the way. The next topic discussed is Test Driven Development - the definition, division of the development community into those support the methodology and those who do not, and more importantly, how effective it can be, it's benefits and drawbacks and the comparison between TDD and BDD (Behaviour Driven Development).
They also talk about mocking, how testing can improve the quality of applications, and visual testing. In the end, they each mention their most favourite and least favorite testing tools.
Panel
Joe Eames
Luis Hernandez
Jesse Sanders
Mike Dane
Sam Julien
Sponsors
Thinkster.io
Adventures in Angular
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"The MaxCoders Guide to Finding Your Dream Developer Job" by Charles Max Wood is now available on Amazon. Get Your Copy Today!
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Links
Uncle Bob - TDD
The Magic Tricks of Testing by Sandi Metz
Code Kata
TDD Kata 1 - Roy Osherove
cypress
Jest
SuperTest
Testable
Picks
Mike Dane:
YouTube Music
Luis Hernandez:
Microsoft Whiteboard
Jesse Sanders:
Tile for Keys
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Final Trailer Easter Eggs
Sam Julien:
Strange Planet - Nathan W. Pyle
Joe Eames:
Stackbit
The DevEd podcast is produced by Thinkster.io and published by DevChat.TV.
Question #1: What is regression and refactoring?
Regression is handling new changes that affect or break legacy code, refactoring is changing the way code is written without changing the functionality.
Question #2: What are ways to learn unit-testing?
Learning by example, practicing using open source codes, studying existing tests from a large codebase, trying to increase code-coverage, writing simple math based tests and Code Katas.
Question #3: What is TDD?
Writing tests before designing the implementation code, red-green-refactor approach - write a test and make it fail (red), write code to make it pass (green) and eventually refactor the code.
Question #4: What is a mock?
Artificially created responses that can be used and controlled by tests.
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The MaxCoders Guide To Finding Your Dream Developer Job
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DevEd 037: Code Ninjas & Community Learning
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In this episode of the DevEd podcast, David Graham - founder and CEO of Code Ninjas, introduces himself, gives a background of how he got into software development, briefly describes his vision that led to the creation of Code Ninjas and the interesting work that goes on there. The company essentially consists of coding centres for kids in multiple locations throughout the US, with cool learning programs catering to several age groups, its main purpose being teaching hands on software development combined with a lot of fun.
The panelists share their views about the current state of programming education in schools, if it is adequate, and what can be done to supplement it. They discuss that it is important to teach kids how to think and how to solve problems rather than relying on memory based learning. They mention ways to get students excited about programming, different learning tools and platforms, and similarities and differences in learning patterns between kids and adult learners.They talk on why should everyone care about coding education for kids, even those who do not have them, and how people can help out in getting youth involved in software development. They also discuss if there is anything they wish had existed to aid learning for young individuals also how it would help them in return. In the end, David explains how can people volunteer for Code Ninjas.
Panel
Brooke Avery
Sam Julien
Mike Dane
Preston Lamb
Joined by speacial guest: David Graham
Sponsors
Thinkster.io
iPhreaks - Devchat.tv
Views on Vue - Devchat.tv
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"The MaxCoders Guide to Finding Your Dream Developer Job" by Charles Max Wood will be out on November 20th on Amazon. Get your copy on that date only for $1.
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Links
Code Ninjas
Code.org
CodeCombat
Picks
Mike Dane:
JBL Clip 3
David Graham:
The Wheel of Time
Preston Lamb:
Disney+
Brooke Avery:
Harry Potter Kano Coding Kit
Sam Julien:
Create Your Own Hacker Nebula with Angular Blockly by Jeff Whelpley & Madelyn Whelpley
Blockly
ng-club
The DevEd podcast is produced by Thinkster.io and published by DevChat.TV.
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Sam Julien Interview - Gatsby
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In this episode of the DevEd podcast, Brooke interviews Sam on Gatsby, and Sam's new course on Thinkster.io. Sam works in Developer Relations at Auth0, is a Google Developer Expert for Angular and Web Technologies, and is very passionate about teaching. Sam starts by explaining in detail what Gatsby is and what it is used for. He talks on the performance benefits of Gatsby, its comparison to React in terms of tooling and usage as well as learning, and if there are any tools or technologies needed as prerequisites to use Gatsby. He elaborates on what made him learn Gatsby, how it helped him advance his programming career, and both his favorite and not so favorite aspects of Gatsby. He then talks at length about his course - Up and Running with Gatsby, reasons he chose this topic specifically, the course design, and compelling reasons why people should go for it. In the end, he shares his thoughts on how Gatsby is getting popular and can help speed up development in enterprise companies and large organizations.
Panel
Brooke Avery
Sam Julien
Sponsors
Thinkster.io
Links
Up and Running with Gatsby: Introduction
The DevEd podcast is produced by Thinkster.io and published by DevChat.TV.
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DevEd 036: Comments
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In this week's episode of the DevEd podcast, the panelists talk on comments in programming. To give a context of the chosen topic, Joe mentions that he sends out regular newsletters to Thinkser.io subscribers related to a variety of concepts, and has recently been sending out some on code smells, in one of which he talks about commenting. He gives an idea of what code smells are, and shares his opinion on using comments. His point of view is that a comment can be looked at as a failure or an inability to express the code functionality or even the technology involved, or is needed to make the code completely readable to other programmers. Comments can become out of date or get replaced.
The other panelists join in the discussion on whether comments are good or bad, and they state that for beginners they can be very useful while not so much for experienced programmers. Too many comments can cause a mess, so they ideally should be used for large complex functions. They are mostly used to specify if refactoring is needed at a later stage, they should explain the "why" instead of "how", and in general the code should ideally be self-sufficient.
They talk about when do they actually like to use comments. If a certain piece of code is doing something unusual or non-obvious or might break the consistency with the rest of the code, then it is imperative to explain why it is written that way. It can also be a good idea to document things for new or junior developers in the team in order to explain what is going on or what should not be done, and also to pair program with them in case things are not clear. Commit messages could be a replacement for comments as well. Comments are also useful when static values and constants such as URLs or UIDs are used in the code, and for explaining specific error mechanisms.
They share great practical advice for programmers who are in the earlier stages of their software development career and have generally been taught to use comments by their professors or mentors. The tips they give include taking time to look through the codebase, checking how and where comments are being used by other developers, refactoring the code to write more readable functions wherever things are unclear, using good naming conventions, trying to write self-documenting code, asking a lot of questions to whoever has written the code including asking the reasons why it is written a certain way, and not being afraid to add comments of your own.
They then discuss some replies to the newsletter sent by Joe about code smells related to the importance of comments in the messy reality of engineering, pros and cons of their usefulness, tradeoff between maintaining self-documented vs heavily documented code. They end the show with picks.
The DevEd podcast is produced by Thinkster.io and published by DevChat.TV.
Panel
Joe Eames
Jesse Sanders
Luis Hernandez
Preston Lamb
Mike Dane
Sponsors
Thinkster.io
The Freelancers' Show
React Round Up
CacheFly
Picks
Luis Hernandez:
Sourcetree
Mike Dane:
Google Fi
Preston Lamb:
Office Ladies podcast
Jesse Sanders:
Tesla cars
Joe Eames:
Gaslands
Question #1: What are code smells?
A pattern that indicates that there may be a problem in the code with a possibility of improvement.
Question #2: When should comments be used?
Comments could be useful for beginners, not so much for experienced folk. Too many comments can cause a mess, so they ideally should be used only for large complex functions. They can be used to specify if refactoring is needed at a later stage, and for explaining the "why" instead of "how".
Question #3: What are some good reasons to use comments?
1. If a certain piece of code is doing something unusual/non-obvious/might break the consistency with the rest of the code. 2. For new or junior developers on the team in order to explain what is going on or what should not be done. 3. When using static values and constants.
Question #4: Tips for new developers regarding comments?
1. Taking time to look through the codebase. 2. Checking how and where comments are being used by other developers. 3. Refactoring the code to write more readable functions wherever things are unclear, using good naming conventions. 4. Trying to write self-documenting code, asking a lot of questions to whoever has written the code including the reasons why it is written a certain way. 5. Not being afraid to add comments of your own.
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Preston Lamb Interview - Netlify
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In this episode of the DevEd podcast, Brooke and Preston mainly talk about Netlify, JAMStack (JavaScript, APIs, and Markup) and Preston's new course - Deploying Apps to Netlify. Preston starts with explaining what JAMStack is, why is it popular right now and it's numerous benefits. He talks about the difference between single-page applications and JAM, and how Netlify comes into the whole picture. He answers questions on how to do authentication with Netlify, what is CMS (content management system) in the context of JAMStack, CMS alternatives to Netlify, how Netlify handles dynamic data, serverless functions, Netlify pricing, possible substitutes for it and finally what makes it stand out from the others.
He then talks about what made him choose Netlify as the topic for his course, the authoring process, what the course is all about, and why should developers resort to the courses on Thinkster.io in general.
Panel
Brooke Avery
Preston Lamb
Sponsors
Thinkster.io
Links
Deploying Apps to Netlify
The DevEd podcast is produced by Thinkster.io and published by DevChat.TV.
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DevEd 035: Programming with & Learning Gatsby
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This week's episode of the DevEd podcast is joined by Hudson Baker. Hudson has been a developer for five years now, specializing in Angular, and is currently working at BrieBug Software.
The panel kickstarts the episode by answering the basic question - What is Gatsby? Sam explains that it is a static site generator which means that it takes in data and converts that into static files that can be hosted on any server. It has a lot of tooling and build process stuff built-in, and uses modern javascript concepts along with GraphQL to build fast-performance static sites. It is also a part of JAMStack.
Speaking on what languages and technologies it is based on, Sam elaborates that Gatsby is built with React, the build process is webpack, the content can be written in markdown or any outside sources, and data querying is done using GraphQL. The next topic of discussion is static sites. They talk at length about what static sites are, if they can be written without a static site generator, the difference between Gatsby and other frameworks such as Angular and React, what makes the sites static, how to identify them, and how to make a clear distinction between static and dynamic sites.
Next, they discuss that Gatsby can be a good starting point for people interested in learning React because it has a plethora of cool inbuilt tools, plugins and pre-packaged templates which can make the learning process easier, rather than starting to learn React from scratch. From a teaching perspective, React is a better choice if the goal is to teach web applications, whereas Gatsby is good for teaching how to build websites.
They talk about the difference between Gatsby and server-side rendering frameworks such as Next.js. Luis explains that in server-side rendering, there is data on one side and template on the other, and each time a request is made to the server, the data and template are assembled on the fly and not at build time. On the contrary, in case of Gatsby, this is done at build time, so everything that is sent from the server is basically pre-calculated. Talking about performance considerations, he says that in server-side rendering there is a price to pay in terms of just-in-time calculations. Sam also chimes in with his views on the comparison and mentions that they are really close performance-wise and feature-wise.
They then move on to discussing the learning aspect of Gatsby. Sam explains that if developers possess some knowledge about things like React, GraphQL, CSS in JS, etc., it can be easy to get fast results with Gatsby, however, it is still possible to secure some quick wins by using a simple starter project as a template and building on it. He then talks about the best use of Gatsby being in content-based sites, portfolios, product sales pages and so on.
Joe asks how does Gatsby deal with adding other aspects on top of it, to which Sam answers that there may be some tweaking needed to get things done, but overall it works well given that there are a ton of plugins available to get things from external resources. Joe talks about learning GraphQL, and Sam explains how much of it is used in Gatsby. He talks about the positives of Gatsby documentation and the developer community. They end the show with picks.
The DevEd podcast is produced by Thinkster.io and published by DevChat.TV.
Panel
Joe Eames
Brooke Avery
Sam Julien
Jesse Sanders
Mike Dane
Luis Hernandez
Joined by special guest: Hudson Baker
Sponsors
Thinkster.io
Adventures in .NET - Devchat.tv
Elixir Mix
CacheFly
Links
Hudson's Twitter
Comparison of Gatsby vs Next.js
Picks
Luis Hernandez:
Focused and Diffuse: Two Modes of Thinking
Mike Dane:
Splitwise
Jesse Sanders:
Grumpy Cat :(
DuckDuckGo
Hudson Baker:
Storybook
Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes
Brooke Avery:
Star Wars Pinball
Sam Julien:
Overcooked!
Joe Eames:
Claudia.js
What is Gatsby?
It is a static site generator that takes in data and converts it into static files that can be hosted on any server. It has a lot of tooling and build process stuff built-in, and uses modern javascript concepts along with GraphQL to build fast-performance static sites.
What languages and technologies is Gatsby based on?
Gatsby is built with React, the build process is webpack, the content can be written in markdown or any outside sources, and data querying is done with GraphQL.
What is the difference between Gatsby and server-side rendering frameworks such as Next.js?
In server-side rendering, there is data on one side and template on the other, and each time a request is made to the server, the data and template are assembled on the fly and not at build time. On the contrary, in case of Gatsby, this is done at build time, so everything that is sent from the server is pre-calculated.
How does Gatsby deal with adding extra aspects on top of the basic functionality?
There may be some tweaking required to get things done, but overall it works well given that there are a ton of plugins available to get things from external resources.
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DevEd 034: Working & Learning While Balancing Personal and Family Life
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In this week's episode of the DevEd podcast, the panelists talk to Tara Z. Manicsic. Tara is an Angular Developer Experience Engineer at Netlify, a blogger, and loves to work in her community educating and learning from other developers. The topic for this episode is work-life balance with an emphasis on balancing learning as a programmer.
The first thing they discuss is if programmers are good at balancing work-life. The general consensus is that they aren't, but mostly because they love their job, and it is also always fun to learn newer technologies and concepts. They talk about hackations and coding in beautiful environments away from their regular desks.
They talk about some strategies to maintain a good work-life balance especially in high-pressure scenarios where the work seems to never get over. They suggest time management, blocking off hours and segregating them into strictly work and non-work periods. Tara mentions working non-traditional hours while having an infant at home, while Brooke explains how to schedule things beforehand so that knowing the tasks ahead of time helps in managing them effectively. Others chip in with their suggestions as well. Tara also speaks on the importance of having a good manager with realistic expectations.
They then touch on work-life balance from the perspective of managers too, where they advise them to make sure that their employees work reasonable hours, check in with them regularly and encourage them to take personal time off for their own mental health. They share their experiences related to death marches and the stress associated with it. They mention that while working as a junior developer in a high pressure environment that is hard to keep up with, it can be hard to change jobs. To deal with these kind of situations, they talk about how important it is to like the work being done, and if it is not something enjoyable, it is time to start looking for something completely different or take some time to unwind. Trying to do interesting things such as reading books, listening to music or podcasts at work during lunchtime, or while commuting, can also help in thriving in such environments.
The next point discussed is how to deal with the need to learn along with working at a regular job and still manage to maintain a balance. Consuming relevant content in the background while going about our day-to-day chores, not underestimating the learning done on the job, carving out time for self development during work hours, writing regular blog posts of things learned which can eventually lead to an awesome portfolio, are some great recommendations.
The last thing the panelists talk about is organizational tools for an awesome work-learn-life balance. They suggest Toggle, Asana, OmniFocus and Calendar. Luis mentions that given that we are constantly bombarded with information, it can be beneficial to sift through that, remove the unnecessary noise and concentrate on what is needed to free up significant amount of time. Joe recommends using a bullet journal, being physical and tactile while organising rather than digital, and Mike suggests switching the airplane mode on, among other things. Tara and Sam talk about meditation and mindfulness. They end the show with picks.
The Dev Ed podcast is produced by Thinkster.io and published by DevChat.TV.
Panel
Joe Eames
Brooke Avery
Sam Julien
Luis Hernandez
Mike Dane
Joined by special guest: Tara Z. Manicsic
Sponsors
Thinkster.io
Adventures in DevOps - Devchat.tv
The Freelancers Show
CacheFly
Links
Tara's Twitter
Picks
Joe Eames:
Beginner's Guide to Bullet Journaling | How to Start a Bullet Journal
Boho Berry Bullet Journal introduction
Tara Z. Manicsic:
Check out the local children's museums
JAMstack conf
Mike Dane:
LingQ
Brooke Avery:
Sporcle
Star Wars Myths & Fables
Luis Hernandez:
Rework
Getting Things Done
Sam Julien:
The Great British Bake Off
How to maintain a great work-life balance, as an employee?
Good time management, blocking off hours and segregating them into strictly work and non-work periods, scheduling tasks ahead of time.
How to maintain a great work-life balance, as a manager?
Making sure that employees work reasonable hours, checking in with them regularly and encouraging them to take personal time off for their own mental health.
How to maintain a great work-learn-life balance?
Consuming relevant content in the background while going about our day-to-day chores, not underestimating the learning done on the job, carving out time for self development during work hours, writing blog posts of things learned eventually leading to an awesome portfolio.
What are some organizational tools to maintain work-life balance?
Toggle, Asana, OmniFocus, Calendar, Bullet journals, Meditation
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DevEd 033: Learning By Building Frameworks & Libraries
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Dillon Kearns is an Elm consultant who provides coaching and training to help people accelerate the way they write Elm to keep their codebases maintainable as they grow. He's the author of elm-graphql, and recently announced a new static site framework, elm-pages.
Today the panel is discussing how building libraries and frameworks can aide with the learning process. Dillon talks about how building frameworks and working with languages has helped him. He uses them as a laboratory to learn new techniques. When working on a library or framework, he always tries to bring his best programming self to that project.He believes that libraries and frameworks are a low risk way to practice your skills because they’re unlikely to get adopted when you’re starting out.
The panel defines what libraries and frameworks are and how they differ from one another. Libraries and frameworks are a type of project, with a library solving a specific class of problems. A framework is plugable and can be extended to solve problems that a framework author may not have imagined, though it does a set of core things. A library is something you put into your existing code base, a framework is the core you’re building on top of. They talk about an article, The Difference Between a Library and a Framework, that compares a library to a trip to Ikea when you already have a home, but you need to fill it with furniture, and a framework to building a home.
Next they talk about how libraries and frameworks are built and who builds them. Both are often built in open source, and some are funded by big companies while some are passion projects. They talk about the libraries that they’ve created and how it helped them to become a better developer. When Preston Lamb builds libraries, he learns how to do things he’s never done before. He doesn’t have a huge user base, but he finds it fun to sit down and have an idea, figure out how to do it, and make it reusable. Jesse Sanders talks about the company Rebug, and how somebody gave him the idea to write it as a schematic. Making libraries and frameworks is a continual way for developers to take a look at situations they don’t come across a lot and put them in a different mindset to make things truly reusable so that it can be adopted by others in the community. Dillon has found that making Elm GraphQL has given him the chance to be involved in very interesting conversations in the community. Creating a library or framework gives you the opportunity to be considered an expert in something and see they types of questions people are asking, problems they’re solving, and their interesting approaches.
The panel talks about the difference between fluency and understanding, and agree that one of the best ways to learn is by teaching. By being involved in creating a library, you’re seen as an expert in that library, so people come to you with their questions and you have to figure out how to answer them. One of the most valuable things about building a library or framework is learning the core basic concepts of the language.
They agree that it is best to start this kind of project as soon as you find something that interests you, and assure listeners that even if you mess it up and it’s never used, the learning experience is the true value. Often times, you’ll surprise yourself and make something that’s actually useful. Building or contributing to frameworks takes away the mystery and magic of programming, makes problems seem more approachable, and helps you understand the fundamentals. To find a project to contribute to, they suggest checking Twitter, Slack channels, and Github. If you find a library you like on Github, they’ll often have a #goodfirstissue, and you can tackle that problem to get started. Listeners are encouraged to be curious and look up source code on Github if you ever have a question to see how different libraries tackle this problem.
Finally, they talk about how to decide what requires a small exercise and what requires a library or framework. If the goal is short term, it only requires a small focused exercise. If the goal is long term or you find yourself doing the same thing repeatedly, consider a library or framework to make that code reusable and publishing it for others to use. Their closing thoughts are don’t focus on making something popular, just make something useful to you and maybe someone else will find it useful, and a reminder that there’s something to learn from everybody. Always have an open mind and try to get clarity on what someone is saying, even if it sounds like a bad idea at first.
Panelists
Brooke Avery
Jesse Sanders
Preston Lamb
Sam Julien
Mike Dane
Luis Hernandez
With special guest: Dillon Kearns
Sponsors
Thinkster.io
Sustain Our Software
React Native Radio
Links
Elm
The Difference Between a Framework and a Library
Angular
Elm GraphQL
Follow DevChatTV on Facebook and Twitter
Picks
Dillon Kearns:
Non-Violent Communication: A Language of Life by Marshall B. Rosenberg
Incremental Elm Consulting
Follow Dillon on Twitter, LinkedIn, and Medium
Preston Lamb:
One Second Every Day
Jessie Sanders:
Crashlands
Mike Dane:
FUNCL bluetooth headphones
Luis Hernandez:
Svelte framework
Brooke Avery:
Star Wars Drones (check Costco first)
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DevEd 032: Learning & Using Programming for People in Non-Programming Jobs
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Today’s episode of the Dev Ed podcast is joined by Tyler Legget, a structural engineering major working in the construction field primarily, and also on a number of side projects including property development, designing and building homes, co-founder of a company that made software for cycling race management. He also worked as a Product Manager on a platform that managed complex inventory of wood products. He then got involved in ng-conf, which spawned into an event management company called Zero Slope Events which he manages currently. Zero Slope Events provides event planning for conferences such as ng-conf, React conf and so on.
After listening to Tyler’s diverse background where coding had been only a partial activity, Joe asks what made him not go into full-fledged software development. Tyler answers that while he enjoyed different aspects and the variety of it, he never felt like making a career out of it. To determine if software development may not be a good career, it needs to be tried first, one has to see if it fits their skillset and work ethic. The panelists also share that it is very important to enjoy the task at hand, be able to fully immerse into the work and not keep waiting for the day to get over. Even though the public notion is that developers get paid really well, salary should not be the only criteria for a career switch, it is basically like setting yourself up for a lifelong disappointment or even failure. The good news, however, is that you can always go back to what you were doing if you do not enjoy it. Job shadowing is a good idea to closely see the day-to-day workings of the job and make an informed decision.
They then discuss if there are any situations where programming languages have proved to be extremely beneficial to the job. They give examples of Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Access where they were able to do awesome things and automate stuff, which piqued their interest in programming in general, and was also helpful to other team members as well, which can eventually foray into development. Teaching can also lead up to becoming a developer, through situations such as involving the search for good materials. Problem-solving is a great way to get into it as well, as are hobbies involving building or customizing things.
The panelists discuss tools that help in programming, automate or organizing things while working. They recommend some great ones like the Office suite, Glitch, CMS systems, Webflow, If This Then That (IFTTT), Zapier, StackBlitz, Google docs, YouTube, Airtable and Stack Overflow.
They then move onto talking about techniques to help out developers when they get stuck on something on the job and there is no one to turn to, during which they suggest a basic google search, YouTube videos, Stack Overflow, and Twitter channels. When trying to get better at programming, not just for fun but in a task-focused manner, some effective resources can be reading books including but not limited to the Dummies series, YouTube tutorials and Meetup groups.
Speaking on finding platforms to work with custom applications, Shopify, WordPress, Google pages, can be of great help if working on your own. As the applications get more complex, it can be advantageous to hire a professional. Finally, in terms of hiring expenses, do not compromise on quality, make sure the requirements are clear and really know what the person can offer.
Panel
Joe Eames
Brooke Avery
Jesse Sanders
Preston Lamb
Luis Hernandez
Joined by special guest: Tyler Leggett
Sponsors
Thinkster.io
Adventures in .NET - Devchat.tv
Adventures in Angular - Devchat.tv
CacheFly
Links
Zero Slope Events
Glitch
Webflow
IFTTT
Zapier
StackBlitz
Airtable
Stack Overflow
Picks
Jesse Sanders:
Nebo
Preston Lamb:
Our Fake History podcast
Luis Hernandez:
unDraw
Brooke Avery:
Webflow
Star Wars: Galaxy Edge - Disney Parks
Tyler Leggett:
Reply All
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DevEd 031: How to Mentor A Greenhorn Developer
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In this episode of the Dev Ed podcast, the panelists talk to Joe Skeen. Joe is a Developer and a Mentor, who started tinkering with computers since childhood and later taught himself web languages. After getting into University, he started working with strongly typed languages as well. He gives a brief background of himself and his work and shares his Angular journey.
The panel discusses the most effective steps involved in mentoring a brand new developer who is just starting out. The first thing that can be done is to hone any skills the developers already possess through their previous line of work or education so as to ensure a smooth transition into a new environment. Another idea is giving them relevant and meaningful things to practice which are needed for the job or the project rather than something vague or generic. They need to feel motivated and connected to the things they are learning. Another piece of advice is, as a mentor, make sure to be there for them, keep the commitment strong, don’t leave things unfinished and do not quit in the middle. As they are putting in a lot of effort into being a good developer, it is very important that the mentor puts in consistent effort as well. Give them constructive feedback.
Practicing is the best way to learn something extremely well. Building apps and personal projects is a great way to put things into practice, leading to more and more learning in the process, so recommending beginner developers to create something based on the theoretical knowledge gained can be an effective suggestion. From the beginning, bringing them to meetings even though things are going above their head, keeping them actively involved thereby creating a feeling of belonging and being included, and making sure that they are aware that the team works interdependently, are crucial to boosting their motivation and self-confidence as well.
They then discuss the differences between mentoring someone in a work environment versus mentoring a friend. In the professional sense, there tends to be more motivation since they are getting paid for learning or doing the job. But on a personal level, this gets harder as it is easy to give up and thus the responsibility of continuing falls on the mentors. Pair programming is a great technique to understand things through the process of working with someone.
In the context of dealing with people who carry the attitude that they know more than the mentors, the panelists state that there is no need for mentoring as it simply cannot be done. It is important to have a conversation to make things clear and understand what is required from everyone involved. It helps to get to know the person better in this case, and respect and humility should be both ways. Making them comfortable, having open discussions on any mistakes and failures faced along the way, removing embarrassment around these topics and stressing on the fact that it is ok to not know something, giving them opportunities to share what they have learned before, are some of the remedial actions that can be taken while dealing with seemingly difficult individuals.
Shedding light on the other side of things, they talk about dealing with developers who feel discouraged and helpless given that they are new to the workplace and everyone else seems to know more than them. They discuss giving them confidence so that they are capable of handling stuff on their own, accepting them as major contributors from the get-go, believing in them, repeating things if they don’t understand something, making sure to not overwhelm them, and giving positive feedback and achievable goals, making yourself vulnerable to them so that they can relate to it. The bottom line is no one is an expert and everyone is learning just like them.
While talking about dealing with developers who write bad code, panelists mention pair programming, learning how to do things the right way from industry experts, teaching by example, having formal code reviews, and maintaining a balance between criticism and appreciation. They end the show on the note that the relationship between the mentor and mentee is the most important part of mentoring.
Panel
Joe Eames
Brooke Avery
Luis Hernandez
Joined by special guest: Joe Skeen
Sponsors
Thinkster.io
Adventures in DevOps - Devchat.tv
My Angular Story - Devchat.tv
CacheFly
Links
Joe’s Twitter
Joe on Medium
Picks
Luis Hernandez:
The Pragmatic Programmer, 20th Anniversary Edition
Brooke Avery:
Magic Jigsaw Puzzles
Joe Eames:
Netlify
Deploying Apps to Netlify
Joe Skeen:
Dominion Companion
Dominion Companion Randomizer
44:53
DevEd 030: Learning DevOps
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Episode Summary
In this episode of the Dev Ed podcast, the panelists talk to Nell Shamrell-Harrington, Principal Engineer at Chef Software. Nell introduces herself and gives a brief background about her software development journey so far and talks about how she started working with DevOps. She is also a co-host of the Adventures in DevOps podcast on Devchat.tv.
The meaning of the term DevOps can be quite cloudy, so before discussing learning DevOps, they talk about what it actually means and how it differs from traditional development. Nell breaks down the term and describes in detail the approach of merging developers and operational professionals. Joe highlights the cultural aspect of DevOps and how it plays into the way of working. Nell explains the right way of organizing teams, the internal interactions among them, accountability, and some of the dos and don'ts involved.
Other panelists chime in with their views on the DevOps culture as well. They discuss the best practices, challenges faced, eliminating silo and sharing responsibility. They tackle the question of how to encourage seamless communication among teams and avoid conflicts. Nell explains that what works well in these cases instead of getting everyone together leading to chaos and blame games, is selecting representatives from both development and operations and ironing out the miscommunication.
The next topic of discussion is why should a beginner developer care about DevOps at all. As applications become more complex, the need arises to think about their underlying infrastructure in order to optimize them and it is beneficial to have an idea of where they might be deployed. As a developer progresses from the beginning stages to advanced ones, it is natural to know about the deployment environment, data centres, and DevOps concepts in general. Due to advancements in technology, these areas have become very accessible as well.
They steer the discussion towards what parts of DevOps should one focus on while getting started, given that there are a plethora of tools and technologies involved. Nell advises listeners to pick any major cloud provider and learn the basics by working with it, which can later be applied to any other cloud provider. She also recommends learning programming languages to get a good software development foundation. Sam shares his own experience with Digital Ocean and highly recommends their learning materials. Mike and Jesse suggest understanding how Continuous Integration works and mention that it is a great starting point. Mike points out that knowing that there are multiple environments at play - staging, production, testing and so on, helps a great deal.
Speaking about Docker, Nell says that while it is an amazing technology which made containers extremely usable on a large scale, it is not a good idea to run the entire infrastructure on just containers, given that containers can be very ephemeral and there is a risk of losing data. For learning purposes though, she recommends Docker as it runs well on local environments. She explains what Chef is and the difference between Docker and Chef.
The panelists then describe what Netlify is, how it works, and how good it is from the learning perspective. They then talk about some great resources for beginners to start with, Nell recommends Kubernetes, and explains what it means to orchestrate containers. Sam talks about Bruno Krebs' Kubernetes tutorial and Thinkster's Docker courses as awesome learning materials. They end the show with picks.
Panel
Joe Eames
Sam Julien
Jesse Sanders
Luis Hernandez
Mike Dane
Joined by special guest: Nell Shamrell-Harrington
Sponsors
Thinkster.io
Sustain Our Software - Devchat.tv
My Ruby Story - Devchat.tv
CacheFly
Links
Nell's Twitter
Adventures in DevOps
The Phoenix Project
Digital Ocean
The Illustrated Children’s Guide to Kubernetes
Kubernetes Tutorial
Docker Courses - Thinkster.io
Picks
Luis Hernandez:
Markdown
Mike Dane:
Day One
Sam Julien:
Ulysses app
Nell Shamrell-Harrington:
Round Health
Jesse Sanders:
53:29
DevEd 029: Essential Skills Every Developer Should Have
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Episode Summary
In this episode of the Dev Ed podcast, the panelists talk to recurring guest Aspen Payton, who is currently working as a Lead Analyst Programmer at Mayo Clinic, has been in the software industry for about 20 years, and has over 32 granted patents to her name. Joe starts the discussion by giving a background on why he chose to talk about the essential developer skills. He divides the topic into different categories of skills and poses the first question to the panel - what fundamental technical skills should every developer have.
Brooke shares her boot camp experience and stresses the importance of learning basic command-line operations. Sam mentions debugging with console.log in any language in any environment and explains how it can be a savior while troubleshooting all kinds of situations. Luis says that it is important to know how to efficiently use the editor, understand related tools and know how to type faster. Joe agrees and shares a funny anecdote from his initial days as a fast typist. Aspen mentions coding efficiently, reducing duplication and writing reusable code as some of the most essential skills.
The panelists then discuss the pros and cons of AHA (Avoid Hasty Abstractions), the gist of which is to prefer abstraction over duplication and, to remove duplication when it is seen happening more than once. Brooke talks about learning how to solve problems and knowing what resources to use. Luis suggests that while working on different frameworks, it is important to learn the language associated with those frameworks and gives examples to further elaborate his point.
The topic then shifts to languages and if there are any specific languages that developers need to learn. Aspen answers in the negative, saying that logic is the most crucial aspect of programming. Sam agrees, and talks about learning the basics and experimenting with various languages based on developers' requirements and comfort levels. Brooke advises listeners to go for the languages they are passionate about and mentions that they need to focus on learning the right way of thinking more than anything else.
They discuss programming paradigms essential to be a good developer, which are mainly a mix of functional and object-oriented programming concepts. Talking about good software engineering practices, they list problem-solving, debugging, testing, reading documentation and understanding source code written by other developers, effective pair programming, code reviews, software patterns in the later stages of development, and version control systems such as git, as important strengths to have.
The next category spoken about is educational skills. Some of the necessary ones being effective communication, ability to teach others well and convey ideas constructively, ability to pick up new languages and having a smooth transition from the old ones, not giving up and working on problems relentlessly (banging head on the wall!), tenacity, diligence and also, asking for help.
They then list essential personal skills including the ability to work in a team while listening to others' ideas, giving them feedback and taking in criticism as well, time management, people skills, good writing, managing personal time and setting boundaries, humility, and empathy.
They wrap up the episode by discussing organizational skills - organizing code, managing time across the team, being organized while learning something new, and task organization and move on to picks.
Panel
Joe Eames
Brooke Avery
Sam Julien
Luis Hernandez
Joined by special guest: Aspen Payton
Sponsors
Thinkster.io
Sustain Our Software - Devchat.tv
My Ruby Story - Devchat.tv
CacheFly
Links
Aspen Payton - Twitter
AHA Programming
The Wrong Abstraction
Picks
Luis Hernandez:
Chrome DevTools: Copy and extract all the CSS for an element on the page
Brooke Avery:
Robocode
Sam Julien:
Toggl
Learn Identity - Auth0
Aspen Payton:
The Nightingale - Audiobook
Joe Eames:
Roll for Adventure
Sign up for Thinkster.io
58:01
Dev Ed 028: Learning Data Structures And Algorithms
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Sponsors
Thinkster.io
Adventures in Blockchain - Devchat.tv
My Ruby Story - Devchat.tv
CacheFly
Panel
Joe Eames
Brooke Avery
Jesse Sanders
Mike Dane
Sam Julien
Luis Hernandez
Joined by special guest: Dylan Israel
Episode Summary
In this episode of the Dev Ed podcast, the panelists talk to Dylan Israel. Dylan is a self-taught software engineer working as a developer and a content creator. His YouTube channel has over 60k subscribers where he aims to help people trying to learn programming on their own. He teaches a course on Thinkster.io called "100 Algorithms Challenge", aimed at developers preparing for technical whiteboard interviews or those wanting regular challenges to improve their skills, and has a collection of the top most commonly asked interview questions on algorithms and data structures.
Joe starts the discussion by throwing the fundamental question to the panel - What is the meaning of the terms "data structures" and "algorithms". Dylan explains that these are fairly common concepts in software development, and traditionally data structures represent the way data is organized and algorithms define how to parse through them while maintaining optimum performance using fewer iterations and reduced time. Others chime in as well and explain these terms using the analogy of building blocks and recipes.
After the basics, they discuss why should one bother learning data structures and algorithms in the first place. The main reasons mentioned are cracking job interviews especially for high paying jobs at large companies, efficient computing, forcing one to think differently and out of the box, studying time and space complexity leading to a better understanding of the software.
Joe mentions that what we learn in a computer science class is rarely used at an actual job, and asks the panel to challenge his statement that learning data structures and algorithms except for clearing job interviews, is inherently a waste of time. Brooke explains that learning about them helps in getting into the right mindset, whereas Dylan says that he has had a chance to use them in certain significant applications on his e-commerce platform, and Jesse adds that they help in honing developer skills to a large extent. Thinking on a level higher than what is expected in order to create efficient solutions, and understanding things well through problem-solving are some of the important takeaways from learning these concepts.
The panelists then discuss some great ways to learn data structures and algorithms. They share their own interesting interview experiences offering insight into what worked for each of them, and suggest books, online resources including courses, and emphasize that practicing a ton of problem-solving on a whiteboard/paper is one of the best ways to go about it. They also mention that recognizing repetitive patterns in problems is a good approach, and using a different language to solve can be beneficial too. They also advise listeners to take into consideration the opportunity cost involved in spending a significant amount of time learning data structures and algorithms, so that they can take an informed decision.
They talk about how much the knowledge of these concepts affects their hiring decisions and what exactly do they look for in candidates. They wrap up the show by each giving one piece of advice to someone preparing for a job - comparing solutions with others and learning from them, consistent attitude, test-driven development, interviewing a lot and researching about the interview as well as the interviewing panel. They end the episode with picks.
Links
Dylan Israel - YouTube
100 Algorithms Challenge
Cracking the Coding Interview
Picks
Luis Hernandez:
The Imposter's Handbook Combo
Brooke Avery:
10 Day Algorithm Challenge
The Art of Racing in the Rain
Dylan Israel:
Pramp
Mike Dane:
Google Fi
Sam Julien:
Base CS podcast
You need a budget
Jesse Sanders:
CSS Tricks
Hawaii
Joe Eames:
Stuff Matters: Exploring the Marvelous Materials That Shape Our Man-Made World
47:09
Dev Ed 027: Working & Learning Remotely
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Sponsors
Thinkster.io
React Native Radio - Devchat.tv
Adventures in DevOps - Devchat.tv
CacheFly
Panel
Joe Eames
Brooke Avery
Mike Dane
Sam Julien
Luis Hernandez
Joined by special guest: Erik Hanchett
Episode Summary
In this episode of the Dev Ed podcast, the panelists talk to Erik Hanchett, a software developer focusing on Vue and Angular, author of Vue.js in Action and Ember.js Cookbook, educator and YouTuber. Erik starts the discussion by stating the benefits of working remotely and others join in with their inputs.They list several important advantages including work freedom, not having to commute, utilizing time well, privacy, less distractions, increased productivity and flexible schedules. They then discuss the downsides of it as well - less social interaction, no particular end time leading to long hours and difficulty in setting boundaries, feeling of being left out and managing different time zones. They also talk about techniques such as resorting to physical activity and proactive networking to combat these downsides.
They then discuss the benefits and drawbacks of remote education. Learning from coworkers easily, productive interactions, collaboration and physical pair-programming could be some of the best parts of being on-site. On the other hand, being forced to solve problems independently and becoming self-reliant can prove to be beneficial when working remotely. They talk about how human contact is essential for learning and how classroom sessions are much more effective and increase retention of information. While speaking from the teachers' perspective, they point out that in case of classroom courses, teachers can customize the topics based on what students want, also, the decreased teacher-student ratio helps to build a good rapport between them leading to a better learning experience. They wrap up the episode by each sharing one tool/tip that has proven to be effective for remote work.
Links
Erik's Twitter
Vue.js Fundamentals
Program with Erik
Picks
Mike Dane:
We Work Remotely
Luis Hernandez:
Visual Studio Live Share
Sam Julien
Zoom for Slack
Erik Hanchett:
Tuple
Joe Eames:
StackBlitz
Brooke Avery:
Loom
48:32
Dev Ed 026: Overcoming Imposter Syndrome
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Sponsors
Thinkster.io
Adventures in DevOps - Devchat.tv
My Angular Story - Devchat.tv
CacheFly
Panel
Joe Eames
Brooke Avery
Jesse Sanders
Sam Julien
Mike Dane
Luis Hernandez
Joined by special guest: Preston Lamb
Episode Summary
In this episode of the Dev Ed podcast, the panelists talk to recurring special guest Preston Lamb who is a software developer at MotivHealth. They start the discussion by each explaining how and when the imposter syndrome has affected them in their work. They talk about it being more frequent than generally thought of and how it impacts their confidence and leads to self-doubt. They share their experiences where switching career paths and learning something new tends to become intimidating and hard at times, causing anxiety and resulting in the feeling of not knowing things, especially on stage or while doing something like consulting where you are expected to be an expert.
They discuss which activities are more likely to cause the imposter syndrome - teaching, being around other developers, conferences, getting new jobs and promotions, and also cases where they don't encounter it. They then describe useful strategies to combat it during each of the above mentioned activities and offer great tips for listeners along the way. They end the episode on a hopeful and encouraging note and mention one thing they would like to learn in the near future.
Links
Preston's Twitter
Preston Lamb - Angular in Depth
Things I Don't Know as of 2018 - Dan Abramov
Picks
Joe Eames:
Jest
Mike Dane:
Webpack
Sam Julien, Brooke Avery, Jesse Sanders:
CSS
Preston Lamb:
Understanding how the web works
Luis Hernandez:
Regular expressions
58:26
Dev Ed 025: Reinventing Yourself
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DevEd Podcast
Sponsors
CacheFly
Panel
Joe Eames
Brooke Avery
Sam Julien
Luis Hernandez
Joined by special guest: Mike Brocchi
Episode Summary
This episode of the Dev Ed podcast is joined by Mike Brocchi, who is currently working as a Front-End Developer for Ultimate Software, and has done significant work on the Angular CLI in the past. Joe begins the show by asking the panel what reinventing oneself means to them, starting off an interesting discussion. They each talk about some triggers that made them think about changing course in their ongoing professional path or even starting over again. They share their own experiences where they reconsidered their life choices due to certain roadblocks and took necessary actions, ultimately resulting in a fulfilling and happy career. They discuss how comfort works against all of this, and how reinventing does not necessarily have to be a better job or higher salary, it can simply mean choosing something satisfying and challenging.
In the end, the panelists help listeners understand how to comprehend and recognize the need of reinventing themselves, how to go about the process, and different ways and resources that can be used to do so.
Links
Mike's Twitter
Picks
Luis Hernandez:
How It Actually Works
Sam Julien:
Standing Desk
Mike Brocchi:
The Umbrella Academy
Brooke Avery:
Star Wars: Jedi Challenges
50:03
Dev Ed 024: Problem Solving As a Developer
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Panel
Joe Eames
Brooke Avery
Jesse Sanders
Sam Julien
Luis Hernandez
Mike Dane
Joined by special guest: Mike Ryan
Episode Summary
In this episode, the panelists talk to Mike Ryan, Software Architect at Synapse, Google Developer Expert, and a core team member of the NgRx team. Joe starts the discussion by elaborating on the topic chosen and explains what constitutes a "problem" in a developer's life. He asks the panel how often do they use classical algorithms in their everyday work. They then steer the discussion from implementing classical algorithms to logical ones, and discuss how they tackle and overcome complex computing challenges that can be very taxing. They talk about a technique called "Rubber Duck programming", how to go about creating a conducive environment for problem solving, and explain the concept of "flow" in software development along with its importance while dealing with issues. They discuss if pair programming and mob programming help in problem solving and their benefits.
After discussing problem solving in computing, the panelists change the direction of the conversation towards solving team and process pitfalls. They talk about how important friendships and emotional investments can be especially when there are challenges at work and Jesse explains a methodology called the Quadrant System. In the end, they speak on handling personal problems as an engineer and offer helpful tips to listeners.
Links
Mike on Twitter
Mike Ryan - Angular in Depth
Svelte
Rubber Duck Debugging
Rework
Radical Candor
The viral tweet and response!
Picks
Mike Dane:
Pomodoro Technique
Brooke Avery:
Pomelo Travel
Sam Julien:
Rocket emoji app
Luis Hernandez:
GitHub projects
Mike Ryan:
React for CLIs
Joe Eames:
Stormboard
01:02:09
Dev Ed 023: Succeeding Despite Learning Challenges
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Panel
Joe Eames
Brooke Avery
Sam Julien
Luis Hernandez
Mike Dane
Joined by special guests: Bonnie Brennan, Samantha Brennan
Episode Summary
In this episode of the Dev Ed podcast, the panelists talk to the mother-daughter duo, Bonnie and Samantha Brennan, who have been working on teaching web development to people with learning difficulties and bringing about an awareness in the community. While talking about her background, Samantha explains that she has been programming since she was 8, and realized that she was dyslexic while learning Angular, as it is an abstract framework where a bunch of things happen at the backend. Keeping in mind the struggles faced by dyslexic learners, she, along with her mother Bonnie, decided to start the course — Angular for the Visual Learner, where they use visual methods such as pictures and 3D animation in order to overcome the learning challenges. Further in the show, they discuss how to detect if a person is dyslexic and also do an interesting demonstration of the “Cake test” on Joe, a test which helps in the identification of dyslexia.
The panelists discuss what it actually means to have dyslexia while dispelling some common myths associated with it. Samantha and Bonnie explain what a trigger word means and give details about ng-club, a fun initiative for kids to learn programming, and Blockly, a library for adding drag and drop block coding to an application. They also talk about using these visual tools from the perspective of non-dyslexic people, different learning techniques prevalent today, and the current education system. The panelists then mention some of their own learning challenges, how they overcame those and move on to weekly recommendations.
Links
Bonnie Brennan - Twitter
Angular for the Visual Learner
Claymation
The Gift of Dyslexia: Why Some of the Smartest People Can't Read...and How They Can Learn
ng-club
Blockly
Picks
Bonnie Brennan:
ng-club
Blockly - YouTube
Mike Dane:
p5.js
The Coding Train - p5.js
Samantha Brennan:
Angular Denver Conference
Brooke Avery:
Kahoot!
Luis Hernandez:
Code Radio
Sam Julien:
Magic Move in Keynote
Joe Eames:
Yesterday - movie
58:28
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