Disco: The Podcast

Send us Fan Mail Alan Scheurman has sat in roughly fifteen hundred ayahuasca ceremonies. He's a teacher, musician, writer and consciousness researcher who has been learning inside Amazonian plant medicine traditions since 2007, including more than a decade with his Shipibo-Konibo maestros in Peru. He runs a school called Multidimensionality out of Joshua Tree and writes the newsletter Mercuria. He's also part of the Disco Expert Network. This one covers a lot of ground: consciousness development, plant medicine and the psychedelic renaissance, forgiveness, UFOs and UAP disclosure, telepathy, and non-human intelligence. In this episode: • The paradox at the center of consciousness development — if consciousness is fundamental, what are we actually developing? • Why Alan says forgiveness is a door and compassion is the key to it • How to hold the news cycle without getting stuck in reaction • His model of the thought frequency continuum: the reactive field, the disruption band and the clarity stream • "God is ascending" — the idea that stopped Michelle cold • How a hardcore Marxist atheist writing a book on the Underground Railroad ended up carrying a lineage he wasn't born into • Why Alan thinks the psychedelic world has integration backwards, and what he means by orientation instead • The gringo shaman question, answered by someone who gets that DM almost every day • What happens when a real tradition meets venture capital, patents and the Wild West of the psychedelic renaissance • The silent black triangular craft that flew over his car outside Joshua Tree, two days before Christmas • Telepathic contact, hypercognizance, and the beyond-verbal telepaths from The Telepathy Tapes • The astral schoolroom called the hill, and the day a fifteen-year-old spelled out that Alan is a hybrid • Why disclosure is happening now, what Alan thinks the national security story is covering for, and where he parts ways with Steven Greer • As above, so below — why a Hermeticist doesn't assume all these beings are benevolent You can learn more about Alan and his work at https://bio.site/santiparro Disco members get a preferred rate with Alan through the Disco Expert Network. Become a member at jointhedisco.com WTF Is Anything? is a podcast from Disco, a think tank and salon that explores consciousness, reality and the unknown. Join us at jointhedisco.com.

Send us Fan Mail Gina Marie Boyd is an integrative health practitioner, a spiritual counselor, and a PhD candidate in transpersonal counseling. Her dissertation is called Symptoms as Messages, and the whole idea is that the things we're feeling inside of our bodies are actually trying to tell us something. Gina's route here was not a straight line. Investment banking in her twenties, then quitting to do improv and stand-up in Hollywood without telling her family. Then MasterChef (*ahem*), a food column, and the presidency of a company, complete with the Gucci loafers and the private jet. Then losing all of it, nearly dying, and walking into an AA meeting in Austin thinking, I am nothing like you people. This conversation covers health, addiction, Ayurveda, the biohacking boom, why the wellness internet feels leaderless, and what happens when spirituality starts telling people what to believe. In this episode: • What transpersonal counseling actually is, and what it does that regular therapy doesn't • Investment banking to secret stand-up: pretending to drive to work and going to improv class instead • MasterChef, steak tartare at the audition, and the producers deciding she "cannot be managed" • Losing everything, and the synchronicity that got her into her first meeting • Raised atheist, with no higher power to hand anything over to • So what is health? A 5,000-year-old answer from Ayurveda • The biohacking question nobody asks: if you're this obsessed with staying here, what are you afraid of losing? • Adding versus subtracting, and why balance is the least exciting right answer • Why everyone online is hunting for one system to believe in, and what that costs • Symptoms as messages, including the client eating spicy food every single night • Correlation, causation, and why stress and illness are so hard to talk about honestly • Science versus scientism, by way of Charles Tart • Thomas Kuhn, paradigms, and why the anomalies piling up right now are being ignored for social reasons rather than scientific ones • Why Gina won't tell anyone what to believe, and what she makes of spiritual leaders who do • Did I manifest this? The real danger in "you created your own illness" • Moving from "what's wrong with me" to "what is this trying to show me" • One book to start with, one thing she was wrong about, and a symptom she's reading in her own body right now Chapters 00:00 Welcome  03:32 What is transpersonal counseling?  06:43 Banking, then secretly doing stand-up  07:32 MasterChef, and "she cannot be managed"  11:29 From food TV to integrative health  13:05 Losing everything  14:39 The first meeting in Austin  15:17 Raised atheist, and what came next  18:08 So what is health?  19:41 Biohacking, and what optimizers are afraid of  21:06 Adding versus subtracting  26:40 A leaderless moment, and everyone looking for a system  28:49 Why it isn't one size fits all  34:02 Successful, sick and using  38:00 Symptoms as messages  41:40 Energy, stress and the profit motive  43:31 Why science and spirituality get treated as enemies  47:26 Science versus scientism  49:02 Paradigms, and why anomalies get ignored  52:07 Telling people what to believe  55:55 Did I manifest this?  59:50 From "what's wrong with me" to "what is this showing me"  1:01:59 A book to start with  1:04:04 One thing she was wrong about  1:05:37 What twenty years of addiction gave her  1:06:51 A symptom she's reading right now WTF Is Anything? is the podcast from Disco, a curated monthly experience that explores consciousness, reality and the unknown. Join us at jointhedisco.com.

Send us Fan Mail What happens to the soul between lives? Hypnotherapist Jennifer Catlin guides past life regression and Life Between Lives sessions, the method developed by Dr. Michael Newton, author of Journey of Souls. In Part 1 of our conversation, she shares how a school psychologist with no spiritual vocabulary ended up doing this work. It started with a feeling in her gut and a stranger she felt she had always known. When she asked a clinical psychologist to evaluate her, she was handed Brian Weiss's Many Lives, Many Masters instead. Then, during a routine hypnotherapy training session, Jennifer left the room. First she found herself as a light being in "human school." Then she was on another planet, with tall beings who spoke in clicks and surrounded her with unconditional love. Two weeks later, heart problems from Lyme disease caused her to lose consciousness while driving. What followed was a near-death experience (NDE) and an out-of-body experience that ended her doubts about life after death. In this episode: - Who Michael Newton was and what happens in a Life Between Lives session - Why hypnosis can reach the same place as near-death experiences, psychedelics and mediumship - Intuition, spiritual awakening and learning to trust your body - Past life recognition: meeting someone you feel you already know - Is a hypnosis experience "just a dream"? - Comparing a hypnotic regression and an NDE side by side - Consciousness, multidimensionality, reincarnation and the soul's journey - The Law of One, "wanderers," and what Michael Newton called hybrids Jennifer Catlin is a member of the Disco Expert Network. Learn more about her work and book a session at jointhedisco.com. Part 2 continues the conversation on past lives, what Jennifer's clients experience in Life Between Lives sessions, and how hypnotherapy can heal by revealing our true nature. We also go way off script. Don't miss it.

Send us Fan Mail Will Holland on Non-Human Intelligence, Experiencers & the Spirituality of Contact (Pt. 2) If Part 1 laid the groundwork — terminology, theories, the deep state — Part 2 is where it gets gloriously strange. Will Holland takes us past the hangar-and-craft material into the human accounts: the experiencers, the abductees, and the people who say something followed them home. We get into the hitchhiker effect and why contact so often refuses to stay a single event. Will walks us through the stories he can't shake — Natalie, the John Deere worker who summons orbs on her Tennessee mountain; the football-field-sized rectangle over a Brazilian-quiet cabin; Whitley Strieber's implant that moved when the surgeon went in. We map the high-strangeness zones (Skinwalker Ranch, Mothman, cattle mutilations) and the mass sightings that are hardest to wave off (Phoenix Lights, the Belgium wave, Varginha, the Ariel School in Zimbabwe). Then the thread everyone underestimates: consciousness. The CE5 community, the government's remote-viewing past (Stargate, Hal Puthoff, Ingo Swan), and the psionics resurfacing now through whistleblower Jake Barber and Skywatcher,  soldiers using their minds to draw the phenomenon in. Will closes on the part that actually matters to him: what disclosure does to the soul, the religions it might spawn, and why the people communing with this stuff...not controlling it...may be the ones who've understood it best. Topics: experiencers and abduction accounts, the hitchhiker effect, CE5, Skinwalker Ranch, high strangeness, cattle mutilations, Phoenix Lights, the Varginha case, remote viewing and the Stargate program, psionics, Jake Barber and Skywatcher, non-human intelligence, telepathy, consciousness, and the spiritual edge of disclosure. Start with Part 1 for the foundation: UFOs, UAPs, secret programs, and the deep state machinery behind disclosure.

Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we sit down with Julie Cluff — spiritual medium, channel, grief coach, and author of Miracles in the Darkness — to hear one of the most extraordinary stories we've ever had on the podcast. On Mother's Day 2007, Julie survived a rollover car accident that took the lives of two of her children. What unfolded in the years that followed was nothing short of miraculous: visitations, signs, angelic communication, and an awakening that ultimately led her to her life's mission. Julie shares how she developed the HOPE model of grief healing, what it's actually like to channel the Council of Wisdom, and why she believes all healing — however it arrives — is miraculous. It's a tear jerker, so get the tissue out and keep your heart open always. Find Julie at juliecluff.com, on Instagram @JulieCluffCoaching, and on YouTube at JulieCluffCoaching. ----- Don't forget to sign-up for our monthly curated experience & community where we go deep into all the human magic we love to talk about here. Expert talks, workshops, community discussions, and so much more. Our first cohort sign-up window is June 24-July 2. Visit jointhedisco.com BONUS: Use code DISCOFIRST20 to be the first twenty founding Disco community members w/ locked in 10% off forever monthly rate + 20% commission on every new member you bring into the community (monthly...yes, do the math). See you there!

Send us Fan Mail What if everything you've been searching for was already here? Otis Smallwood, founder of Awakening Genius, executive coach, and one of the most quietly mind-blowing humans we've ever sat across from, joins us for a conversation that started as an interview and ended as something closer to a session. Fair warning: this one will get under your skin. Otis takes us from his childhood in Minnesota to losing a million dollars at 25, from a random bookstore encounter to 21 days in an ashram outside Chennai, and into the work he now does helping founders and executives find their way back to themselves. We get into self-study vs. self-improvement, the neurobiology of enlightenment, what medicine journeying actually does (and doesn't do), why the ego isn't the enemy, and what it really means to directly experience divinity, not just believe in it. By the end, we were crying. You might be too.  Note: This episode explores deeply philosophical and spiritual concepts. Reflect at your own pace and integrate what resonates into your life. Otis emphasizes direct experience over belief, urging us all to remember our divine nature that’s already within.

Send us Fan Mail Summary Mari is a somatic psychotherapist, trauma therapist, international brainspotting trainer, shamanic practitioner, and one of the most genuinely layered humans we've had on this show. Her story moves through immigration, addiction, homelessness, eight trips to rehab, a psychic awakening that looked nothing like the wellness industry version — and eventually, a single brainspotting session that changed the entire trajectory of her life and work. In this conversation we get into all of it. What brainspotting actually is, why it works when talk therapy doesn't, and what's really happening in your brain and body when you find a spot. What it means to carry your ancestors' unfinished business in your nervous system right now. Why most of Western therapy has it backwards. And what she's learned from decades of sitting with people in their absolute darkest places (including her own). We also go somewhere most wellness conversations don't — into the shadow, the unseen, and what it actually looks like to work with energies that aren't exactly warm and fuzzy. This one is dense, rich, and genuinely unlike anything we've recorded. Come curious. Key Topics The science behind brain spotting and the orienting reflex Mari's personal journey through trauma, addiction, and spiritual awakening The spiritual and energetic aspects of brain spotting and energy work How brain spotting helps access and process stored trauma in the body The role of intuition, spirit guides, and energy in trauma healing The importance of sovereignty and boundaries in spiritual and energetic work Mari's work with dark energies, demons, and spirit guides The intersection of neuroscience, spirituality, and energy healing Practical insights into conducting a brain spotting session The significance of ancestral and lineage healing in trauma recovery Brain spotting as a direct access to the limbic system The role of eye movements in emotional and trauma healing The connection between subconscious, body, and healing capacity The impact of ancestral trauma and epigenetics The limitations of traditional talk therapy and the power of somatic approaches

Send us Fan Mail Summary Join Zach and Michelle as they reconnect after a three-month break, sharing personal updates, exploring the intersection of consciousness, spirituality, and current events. This episode sets the stage for a transformative year with new community initiatives and deeper conversations. Keywords spirituality, consciousness, community, societal change, inner work, outer work, global events, personal growth Key topics Personal updates and new beginnings The role of spirituality and consciousness in societal change The launch of the Disco community and upcoming initiatives Balancing news consumption with inner peace The importance of inner work and self-inquiry

Send us Fan Mail Summary This episode explores the transformative power of 5-MeO-DMT and other consciousness tools, featuring Denise's insights on awakening, soul work, and the evolution of human consciousness. Zach and Michelle recall their journey with the medicine and how they continue to integrate its wisdom. Key Topics DMT and 5-MeO-DMT origins and effects The role of plant medicine and sacred sacraments in awakening The concept of the new human and collective consciousness Tools and practices for deep somatic and spiritual awakening Takeaways 5-MeO-DMT is a natural psychoactive substance in the human body and plants. Synthetic 5-MeO-DMT allows precise dosing for safe, profound experiences. Awakening involves realizing our multidimensional, eternal nature. Tools like meditation and plant medicine help access expanded states of awareness. Collective awakening is accelerating, leading to a new human consciousness. Resources Metamorphosis Bill Atkinson and Jaguar Medicine Psychedelic Meditation Institute Guest links Website

Send us a text In 2019, a near-death experience cracked open her old identity — atheist, addict, survivor — and revealed a deeper truth about love and creation. Now a transformation coach and student/teacher of A Course in Miracles, Betty shares how forgiveness became her portal to freedom and why divine connection doesn’t need a church to be holy. In this episode, we explore the difference between religion and direct spiritual experience, the power of manifesting through forgiveness, and what it means to embody Christ Consciousness in everyday life. A story about remembering who you are, even when you’ve forgotten completely. 

Send us a text Ever wondered why some days feel like flow and others like friction? Human Design might just hold the map. In this episode, therapist and energy practitioner Lauren Steel breaks down the system that blends astrology, chakras, and modern psychology into one surprisingly practical tool for understanding who you are and how your energy moves through the world. We talk types, energy, and the art of honoring your natural rhythm—whether you’re a Generator chasing joy, a Projector waiting for the right invitation, or just someone curious about why you do what you do. Think of it as a crash course in cosmic self-awareness, minus the jargon, plus a lot of insight. Show Links Lauren Steel: https://bluerainlily.com/ Get your HD Chart: https://www.mybodygraph.com/

Send us a text Author and transformation guide Laurie McGinley joins us to talk about the real, embodied science of change. Drawing from the teachings of Dr. Joe Dispenza and her own method, The Dissolve™, Laurie shares how meditation, intention, and emotional safety can literally rewire the brain — and why the future you want can only unfold when you stop forcing and start believing. Show Links Laurie McGinley / ViaLucent.com / @ViaLucent Running Into the Petri Dish of Burnout by Laurie McGinley Dr. Joe Dispenza

Send us a text In this conversation, we talk to Jordan Jozak, who was part of a military psionic testing program disguised under GATE, until 2010 where he was trained, from age 8, to communicate telepathically w/ non-human aircraft via consciousness. Today, Jordan is speaking out and shining a light on these programs, and what it could mean for human progress. We talk about Jordan's profound experiences under the control of this program, his current work exploring the realms of telepathy and consciousness, and what he's taking from all of it moving forward. He discusses the importance of community, the role of technology in understanding consciousness, and the upcoming initiatives he is launching, including the Telepathy Center and Night Under the Stars events & research.  Jordan emphasizes the need for transparency and healing in the exploration of human potential and the interconnectedness of all beings. Show Links JordanJozak.com / Twitter / Instagram Skywatchers Documentary Recent Video Release

Send us a text In this engaging conversation, married couple, Larissa Conte and Michael Kahn Armstrong share their unique spiritual journeys, exploring themes of trauma, connection, and the transformative power of love. They discuss their individual paths and the challenges of navigating partnership through their own separate lenses. We explore the complexities of committed partnerships while also choosing to live a life of a spiritual discovery and healing. They discuss the significance of recognizing and transmuting shadows in relationships, emphasizing the importance of personal growth. Through their shared experiences, they highlight the power of partnership and the growth that comes from navigating your highest timeline together, side by side. Show Links Larissa Conte / Wayfinding Michael Kahn Armstrong / The Eternal Dragon The Ringing Cedars of Russia

Send us a text In this engaging conversation, married couple, Larissa Conte and Michael Kahn Armstrong share their unique spiritual journeys, exploring themes of trauma, connection, and the transformative power of love. They discuss their individual paths and the challenges of navigating partnership through their own separate lenses. We explore the complexities of committed partnerships while also choosing to live a life of a spiritual discovery and healing. They discuss the significance of recognizing and transmuting shadows in relationships, emphasizing the importance of personal growth. Through their shared experiences, they highlight the power of partnership and the growth that comes from navigating your highest timeline together, side by side.

Send us a text From Silicon Valley and the military to the psychedelic path — Susanna and Denise of Metamorphosis Ventures share how plant based medicines are tools for healing, growth, and community. We talk how microdosing rewires our neural pathways, what a macro-dose ceremonial journey can look like, and why integration is the real key to lasting change.  If you’re curious about psychedelics but aren't sure where to start — this episode will give you the insights and inspiration you need. Show Notes: Metamorphosis Ventures / Metafest 2025 / Discord Susanna Rose Stokes Denise Hontiveros

Send us a text Zach and Michelle release a special episode in honor of MasterChef finale week. They talk with two cast-mates who have an official announcement to make, spilling some unheard tea! The group reminisces about their experiences and what they've taken away from it, and how their faith (or "delusion") in themselves got them through the casting door. Courtney Fraley / Faraway Kitchen Adam Head

Send us a text In this episode we talk to Wall Street Journal best-selling author Victoria Song, about her book and methods, Bending Reality. Victoria is a private advisor to the world's top performers who trust her to remove the invisible blocks between them and their next "impossible" win whether that's a billion-dollar deal, becoming a headlining artist with billions of streams, or a deeply personal transformation.  Her signature approach, The Bending Reality Method™ blends high performance strategy with precision energetic work, which unlocks a state where quantum success feels inevitable. A graduate of Yale and Harvard Business School, Victoria has advised leaders at the top of tech, sports, entertainment, and business such as Cindy Crawford, LeBron James' family, and Elon Musk's family. Show Links: Victoria is generously offering her GOAT Method program at an exclusive 10% discounted rate for Disco listeners, by clicking this link and using code DISCO. Victoria Song / Instagram / Bending Reality 

Send us a text In this episode of Disco, we explore the mystical world of synchronicities and spiritual coincidences with Nazy, experiencer of many of these synchronicities, and Kathryn Brewer, medium and intuitive guide.  Nazy shares her powerful story of meeting her fiancé through a series of uncanny coincidences, how these spiritual "nudges" calmed her through her journey with sobriety, and what these coincidences mean to her today. Along for the ride is Kathryn Brewer, who helps explain the spiritual significance of synchronicities and how they can guide us toward deeper connection, healing, and peace. We talk about the different types of synchronicities—from repeating numbers to life-changing encounters—and how to tell when the universe is sending nudges or warnings. If you’ve ever wondered whether synchronicities are real, why they happen, or how to interpret them, this conversation offers practical insights, comforting stories, and a reminder that the universe is always communicating with us.

Send us a text In part two, Nicole Ayres takes us beyond her personal story and into the weird, wonderful intersections of spirituality, technology, and cultural change. We talk about the astrological phase we're moving into as a universe, the decentralization of power, AI as a mirror for our collective soul, and how to navigate chaos without losing your center. In this conversation we zoom out and dream of a future rooted in connection, creativity, and collective intelligence. Doesn't it sound lovely? Anything is possible and magic is real! Nicole Ayers: Instagram / LinkedIn Jumpsuit Agency / Jumpsuitverse Telepathy Tapes Kofenya Coffee Shop Jaunt Boards Eckhart Tolle DAO