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Hey Y'all, After four remarkable years, 129 episodes, and over 1.3 million listeners, Trey and Jaz sit down together - from their own homes - to say a heartfelt farewell to Spill the Spirituality. This final episode is not a sad montage (no candlelit interpretive dance either, despite Trey's best efforts). It's a celebration - of friendship, of extraordinary guests, of the conversations that changed both hosts from the inside out. They reflect on the guests who left a lasting mark, the unlikely friendship that sparked all of this, and what comes next as they step into a new season with curiosity and open hands. "It's a brave thing to start something new — and it can be a brave thing to have a good ending too." Timestamps 0:00 — Welcome & the announcement: this is the final episode 2:08 — How Jaz accidentally ended up on a Methodist podcast (she thought it was something else entirely) 6:58 — Trey's origin story: the lockdown Facebook Live "Graham Norton show" that planted the seed 8:30 — Why this podcast matters: celebrating difference rather than weaponising it 9:39 — Standout guests: Mike Bates (counter-terrorism operative) and Jamie Jones-Buchanan 10:22 — Mike's story: solo rowing the Atlantic — and the 100 dolphins 13:08 — Rowan Williams at Cheltenham Literary Festival: whales in dry rivers 15:23 — Kelechi Okafor: ancestral trauma, embodiment, and twerking in the studio 18:10 — Nadia Bolz-Weber: fangirling, prison ministry, and the woman with "savage" tattooed on her face 22:20 — Looking back over all 129 episodes; Jas's "gateway drug" into spirituality 25:54 — Jaz opens up: her painful history with church, a toxic marriage to a vicar, and finding her way back 28:35 — The DM that started it all: how Jas reached out — and Trey was already writing the same message 31:00 — Trey's personal spiritual shift: learning to lead alongside others, not alone 35:24 — The surprise Pentecost Sunday sermon — and being "preacher adjacent" 39:58 — Jaz's vision for what's next: a sofa on the street in Edinburgh (and Milton Keynes) 41:27 — Trey's next season: rest, silence, and resisting the urge to start another project immediately 44:40 — Final thank yous to 1.3 million listeners, and what comes next All 129 episodes remain available wherever you listen. Thank you for journeying with us. Until our paths cross again — peace. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, Recorded live at the Cliff College Festival on Pentecost Sunday in Derbyshire, hosts Trey Hall and Jaz Ampaw-Farr are joined by two brilliant guests - Methodist kayaker and dementia support worker Mary Sharples, and singer-songwriter Rob Halligan - for a deeply human conversation about change, faith, identity, and the songs that transport us through it all. Whether you're mid-transition or settled in a comfortable rut (and secretly love Last of the Summer Wine), this one's for you. Timestamps: 0:00 — Welcome & introducing the show: what is *Spill the Spirituality*? 1:38 — Live at Cliff College Festival: Pentecost, bank holidays, and "male adjacent activities" 2:53 — Today's theme: life transitions — big and small 4:02 — Introducing guests Mary Sharples and Rob Halligan 5:25 — Mary on being 27: constant change, accidental careers, and feeling transient 7:53 — "At what point do you feel grown up?" — pensions, volunteers, and the approval of teenagers 8:42 — Mary on needing roots: change is easier when you have a network around you 9:18 — Rob on 25 years as a self-employed musician: the constant life of change on the road 10:54 — Rob's project on liminal spaces: learning to value the in-between moments 11:56 — Spirituality across difference: how do you identify on the spiritual spectrum? 12:25 — Mary: "I say Methodist before Christian" — a denomination built on justice and action 13:22 — Rob: "I'm a musician who is a Christian" — still learning what it means to follow Jesus 15:00 — Rob's defining moment: losing his father in the 9/11 attacks on the 99th floor of the South Tower 15:36 — Standing in Coventry Cathedral: "Father, Forgive" — anger, faith, and a giant reality check 16:21 — Choosing to believe: "I think this God likes us" 17:31 — Injustice, Operation Enduring Freedom, and where Rob sees God *not* present 18:25 — "I love you in the Lord" — what it means when love is really just tolerance 19:18 — Mary on working in dementia care: it's not a sad job — it's a joyful one 20:16 — Weekly community groups, uninhibited characters, and the gift of being present 21:22 — "It's a lesson in just being present" — freedom from embarrassment and cringe 22:18 — Where Mary sees God: in diverse communities drawn together by care 23:12 — East Manchester's mishmash of volunteers and the intergenerational miracle of showing up 24:33 — Trey's aunt, Frank Sinatra, and the power of music for people with dementia 25:17 — Rob on music after 9/11: "I had something to say" 25:42 — The strange thing about songs: listeners hear something completely different to what you wrote 26:00 — Rob's song *It's Strange What a Song Can Do*: Flowers in the Rain, Radio 1, and a dad singing badly in a Toyota Avalon 27:23 — The panel's musical memory lane: The Bangles, Kids from Fame, Sharon Shannon, and Showaddywaddy 30:48 — Mary on body memory: why people with dementia remember how a song *feels* even when words are gone 32:29 — What takes you to a deep spiritual place? Folk music, R&B brunch clubs, and collective dancing 33:59 — Jaz on "Grace" in Tottenham Court Road: dancing in an old church at 3pm as a spiritual act 35:05 — Rob on art, creativity, and crying at a pot on the Great Pottery Throw Down 35:31 — Stairway to Heaven at the Kennedy Honors: when art does something you can't explain 36:40 — Coming in to land: what do you want to take into the next chapter — and what do you want to leave behind? 37:45 — Trey: leave the judgment, keep the good stories 38:10 — Jaz: hard-earned humility in, imposter syndrome out 39:06 — Mary: leave behind the constant questioning of every decision; go forward freely and tread lightly 40:17 — Wrap-up, thanks, and the parting benediction: "Go forward and eat toast with heavy amounts of butter. And be at peace." Featured guests: Mary Sharples — Methodist, kayaker, chaplain-turned-dementia-support-worker, champion of heavily buttered toast Rob Halligan — Singer-songwriter and storyteller; on his 25th anniversary tour; described by the BBC as "Bruce Springsteen having English tea with Billy Bragg" Hosts: Trey Hall & Jaz Ampaw-Farr Recorded live at: Cliff College Festival, Derbyshire Produced by: Rachel Matthews | A project of the Methodist Church Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, What happens when a vet, wildlife broadcaster, and nature mystic sits down with Jaz and Trey? This. Sean McCormack - known to many as That Vet Sean, familiar from Springwatch, The One Show, and his Sunday Times pets column - takes us on an extraordinary journey from cocaine-swallowing puppies to urban beavers, from speciesism to secret grief, and from Catholic Ireland to finding his church in the natural world. Expect big laughs, unexpected tears, and a conversation that might just change how you think about animals, the planet, and what it means to be human. Timestamps: 0:00 — Intro & welcome: Who is Sean McCormack (That Vet Sean)? 1:28 — Exotic pets, zoo vets & the wild beginning of Sean's career 3:00 — The late-night call: cocaine, a puppy, and a kitchen surgery request 4:11 — What drives a child to become a vet? Nature, family & being the "weird kid" 5:32 — The hidden mental health crisis in veterinary medicine 6:33 — Vets have the highest suicide rate of any profession — why? 6:39 — How our relationship with pets has transformed in one generation 8:19 — Do pets truly serve the animal, or just us? The ethics of pet-keeping 9:54 — Speciesism: Why do we eat cows but not dogs? 10:49 — Grass-fed beef vs. dairy and eggs: the counterintuitive truth about animal welfare 12:50 — "It's not the cow, it's the how" — regenerative agriculture explained 14:45 — Kids who don't know where potatoes come from: our disconnection from nature 15:20 — Nature is everywhere, even in cities — but we've stopped noticing 18:05 — The Ealing Beaver Project: bringing beavers back to zone 4 of London 19:51 — Beavers solving urban flooding better than engineers — and David Attenborough's reaction 20:16 — Working alongside Sir David Attenborough on *Wild London* 21:10 — Shifting to spirituality: what does nature mean to Sean? 22:13 — Trey's seal colony encounter on Caldey Island (and being gently told off by Sean) 23:47 — Sean's spirituality: "My church is the natural world" 29:37 — No Mow May, dominion, and why human superiority is destroying the planet 31:22 — The hypocrite's dilemma: flying to Costa Rica as a conservationist 33:06 — Grief, loss, and the partner who wasn't out: Sean opens up 34:23 — The Irish relationship with death, wakes, and why grief shouldn't be hidden 38:20 — Three years of secret grief — and why speaking his name finally brought healing 43:35 — The forest walk video that went viral: "There's no shame in this" 45:52 — Growing up gay in Catholic Ireland: denial, self-preservation, and coming out at 18 47:35 — A second coming out: burnout, identity crisis, and hating a career he'd built his life around 50:49 — Sean's advice for anyone stuck on the wrong path: listen to that voice sooner 53:34 — "You're only as sick as your secrets" — on sharing, therapy, and moving forward 54:07 — Closing reflections: spirituality, openness, and honoring connection Follow Sean: Instagram @thatvetSean Wild London (with David Attenborough) - available on BBC iPlayer The Ealing Beaver Project - Paradise Fields, Greenford, London Spill The Spirituality is a project of the Methodist Church in Britain. New episodes every week - subscribe and leave a review wherever you listen. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, In this episode, Trey and Jaz sit down with Scottish writer, broadcaster, and paranormal psychologist Evelyn Hollow — known for her work on Uncanny and The Battersea Poltergeist — for a wild, wide-ranging conversation about what ghosts might actually be, why consciousness is science's last great mystery, and whether the paranormal and the spiritual are closer than we think. Evelyn takes us from the Battersea poltergeist case that became the number one podcast in the world, to modern-day ghost sightings (yes, there are ghosts in hoodies), to a fascinating theory that what we call ghosts might not be dead people at all — but glimpses through time. Along the way, the conversation moves into quantum physics, the politics of who gets to define the sacred, why so many women are drawn to paganism, and what it means that every culture on Earth seems to be accessing the same mysterious thing and calling it by different names. Jaz also finally tells her abbey ghost story to an actual expert. The verdict? It's complicated. Funny, mind-bending, and unexpectedly moving — this one will have you side-eyeing empty rooms for weeks. Timestamps: 2:41 — Introducing Evelyn Hollow: paranormal psychologist and broadcaster 3:00 — Growing up in Scotland; swapping forensic psychology for parapsychology 5:05 — The Battersea Poltergeist and becoming the number one podcast in the world 7:46 — Why aren't there modern ghosts? (There are — one wears a Nirvana T-shirt) 11:28 — Do ghosts have an expiry date? The half-life of consciousness 12:59 — Jaz's abbey ghost story: the woman at the foot of the bed 15:00 — Sleep paralysis, the priming effect, and why Jaz's story is hard to explain 20:15 — The Salem witch trials: mass hysteria or something more calculated? 23:48 — Is everyone accessing the same spiritual reality? 27:34 — Could consciousness be quantum? Why ghosts make scientific sense 29:00 — Weighing the soul and the 0.7 gram preacher's tale 32:24 — Paganism: pre-Christian faith and the power of the land 34:56 — Feminism and faith: who wrote the book? 38:09 — Local gods vs. universal truth 41:29 — What comes after death? Where consciousness might go ----- Guest: Evelyn Hollow Find her: Instagram @EvelynHollow Spill the Spirituality is a project of the Methodist Church in Britain. Produced by John Ryan and Rachel Matthews. Hosted by Trey Hall. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, In this episode, Trey Hall sits down with poet, author, and educator Jaspreet Kaur - also known as Behind the Netra - for a rich, wide-ranging conversation about identity, faith, creativity, and what it means to go deeper than the surface of things. Jaspreet opens with a stunning reading of her poem Lost in Translation, a tribute to her mother and the experience of navigating intersectional identity as a British South Asian woman. From there, the conversation weaves through the healing power of poetry, the feminist roots of the Sikh faith, the book Brown Girl Like Me, and a deeply personal account of finding spirituality not in a place of worship — but in a library, a research project, and a girls' home in Punjab. Timestamps: 2:29 — Introducing guest Jaspreet Kaur / Behind the Netra; reading of Lost in Translation 5:07 — Why do people love or hate poetry? How it was introduced in schools 6:50 — Rediscovering poetry through the Sikh faith: scripture written entirely in poetic form 7:31 — Poetry as therapy: using writing to manage anxiety at age 13 8:28 — The stigma around mental health in South Asian (and wider) communities 9:06 — Anxiety attacks at 13, the journal she still has today, and the move from free writing to poetry 9:46 — Pen to paper vs. typing: why handwriting feels therapeutic 13:13 — What spirituality looks like in everyday life; lessons from a toddler noticing a snail 16:14 — Brown Girl Like Me: writing the book, interviewing 150 Asian women, and why it was therapy 22:44 — Spirituality and Sikh heritage: growing up in a Sikh household 23:59 — The difference between practice and truly feeling faith 25:39 — A master's in gender studies and researching son preference in South Asian communities 26:24 — Finding spirituality through feminist research: the Sikh faith's founding principle of gender equality 26:52 — Why Sikh women keep the name Kaur; removing caste through naming 30:54 — Trey shares his own story: coming out as gay through scripture and direct experience of God 32:09 — When faith and culture conflict: a shared challenge across all traditions 33:23 — "Don't worry, next time you'll have a boy" — the rage of hearing that after a daughter's birth 34:11 — Channelling holy rage into writing and advocacy 39:18 — What does God feel like? Sun on your eyelids — a poetic description of the divine 41:17 — Trey shares his 12-step recovery journey and experiencing God in the rooms of recovery 41:59 — Powerlessness and surrender: the first steps and why a powerful God matters 45:04 — Can you be a feminist and surrender to God? Yes — we are contradictions 47:22 — Names for God that take energy and alertness to say; divine names across traditions Guest: Jaspreet Kaur — poet, author, educator Find her: Instagram, X, YouTube, Facebook — @BehindtheNetra Book: Brown Girl Like Me Spill the Spirituality is a project of the Methodist Church in Britain. Produced by John Ryan and Rachel Matthews. Hosted by Trey Hall. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, What does it mean to be fully alive? Writer, broadcaster, and thinker Elizabeth Oldfield joins Trey Hall for a rich, searching conversation about the unravelling and reconstruction of faith, the radical politics of listening across difference, and why she's become a "fundamentalist communitarian" in the age of isolation. Elizabeth is the host of The Sacred podcast and author of Fully Alive: Tending to the Soul in Turbulent Times — a book that takes the unlikely route of the seven deadly sins as a map toward connection, aliveness, and grace. In this episode: 0:00 — Welcome to Spill the Spirituality; introducing Elizabeth Oldfield 1:43 — Elizabeth's journey: growing up with "incredibly dilute background Christianity" and a brush with a youth festival that changed everything 5:28 — Describing the ecstatic encounter: "encountering the love that is the fundamental logic of the universe" — and how it compares to psychedelic experiences 8:28 — The unravelling, the "bad atheist" years, and cycling around Manchester in the rain arguing with a God she didn't believe in 11:38 — What church looks like now: living in an intentional community in Peckham, South London, and why Elizabeth has fallen back in love with church by lowering her expectations 13:52 — "I am a fundamentalist communitarian": why hyper-individualism is making us sick, lonely, and easy to politically manipulate — and why community is an act of resistance 14:03 — "Lash yourself to other people": committing to people and places even when it's difficult 21:05 — Elizabeth's podcast The Sacred: what she has learned from deep listening across the political and theological spectrum, and why she's "basically fallen in love with every guest" 27:45 — Practical lesson 1-0-1: how to actually listen to people who trigger you — background practices, nervous system regulation, and the spiritual practice of staying curious 28:28 — Understanding homophily (the love of the same): writing your "people like me" and "not like me" lists, and how to interrupt the body's threat response 35:01 — The neuroscience of righteousness: why being confirmed in what we already think feels like a sugar rush, and why surprise and learning feel like a full meal 39:53 — Introducing Fully Alive: why a book about aliveness unexpectedly became a book structured around the seven deadly sins 43:11 — Elizabeth's definition of sin as disconnection and fracture — and why the desert monks had it right long before neuroscience caught up 45:18 — On confession, lust, and bearing our darkness with grace rather than denial or dismissal 49:41 — Why Elizabeth couldn't write a book until she found her own voice — weaving ideas and life together honestly 52:12 — Elizabeth's benediction: "May we be brave and honest enough to be human together" Links & Resources: Elizabeth Oldfield's podcast: The Sacred Fully Alive: Tending to the Soul in Turbulent Times by Elizabeth Oldfield Wintering by Katherine May Don't Talk About Politics by Dr. Sarah Stein Lubrano Michael Pollan's new book on consciousne Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y’all, Jaz and Trey continue the conversation with 2026 BBC’s Pilgrimage stars Ashley Banjo, Hasan Al-Habib, and Tasha Ghouri in this powerful Part 2 episode. Picking up where they left off, the group dives deeper into the emotional and spiritual impact of the journey, reflecting on unexpected moments of vulnerability and connection. They unpack how pilgrimage challenged their assumptions, strengthened relationships, and opened space for honest conversations about belief. With warmth, humour, and depth, this episode explores what happens when different faith stories meet on the road together. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, In this special episode, we sit down with four of the stars from the BBC’s Pilgrimage 2026 - Patsy Kensit, Hermione Norris, Jayne Middlemiss, and Ashley Blake - for an honest, reflective, and often deeply personal conversation about their journey. From questions of faith and identity to moments of vulnerability on the road, Part 1 explores what happens when very different lives and beliefs come together on a shared spiritual path. Key Themes Spiritual curiosity vs religious structure The power of shared experience Vulnerability as a catalyst for connection Walking as a metaphor for inner change Finding common ground across different beliefs Standout Moments  Early conversations where differing beliefs are openly challenged   Moments of unexpected emotional honesty between participants   Reflections on why stepping outside everyday life creates space for deeper thinking   The first signs of group connection forming despite differences  Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, In this milestone 100th episode, host Trey Hall sits down with Harry Clark - the breakout star of BBC's The Traitors Series 2 - for a wide-ranging and deeply honest conversation about faith, mental health, masculinity, and what happens when a council kid from Slough decides to take his questions straight to the Pope. Harry opens up about how prayer pulled him back from the edge during his darkest days in the British Army, why he went to confession for the first time in 10 years in Rome, and the AI-assisted message he sent to the Vatican. Funny, moving, and refreshingly real. Timestamps 0:00 — Intro & welcome to Spill the Spirituality 1:13 — The iconic Traitors reveal moment 2:00 — How Harry got cast on The Traitors (from a "scam" DM) 4:50 — Going on the show to change his life & the Uber driver story that changed everything 7:28 — Trey's team's crushes on Harry (shoutout Holly & Allie) 8:41 — The "Jekyll and Hyde" life: Army Corporal vs. Harry from Slough 10:15 — Harry Clark Goes to Rome: the new BBC documentary 11:35 — Faith as a wave: growing up Catholic and questioning the church 11:49 — The origin story: homebrewed beers in the Alps with a producer 13:38 — "I'll just go to the headteacher" — why go straight to the Pope 15:00 — Trey's own experience at a Papal audience in St. Peter's Square 16:00 — What is it about the Pope? The sense of calmness and humility 17:01 — Arriving in Rome with his mum 17:47 — His mum's advice: "Just pray" 19:10 — Questions for the Pope: good vs. bad Catholic, LGBTQ+ inclusion, modernising the church 21:11 — "What's your favourite emoji?" — the lighter questions 22:33 — What is confession? Harry's first confession in 10 years 25:20 — Trey on confession, AA, and telling the truth to another human 27:21 — "God is working through them" — seeing God in people 28:20 — Is there such thing as a bad Catholic? Already recognising your struggle means you're winning 29:59 — Harry's darkest moment: suicidal thoughts, losing friends, and hitting rock bottom in the Army 31:46 — The Army as "the hammer and chisel" — joining at 16 and growing up fast 33:29 — The prayer journey: from screaming at God to gratitude 35:34 — "I'd rather believe and be wrong" — Pascal's Wager, Harry Clark style 37:43 — Masculinity, vulnerability, and what it means to be a healthy man 40:19 — The Memento Mori tattoo from Rome 41:25 — Wheel of Fortune game: AI — Friend or Foe? 42:42 — Harry used ChatGPT to message the Pope (and reads the message live) 46:48 — Outro & where to watch Harry Clark Goes to Rome Guest Harry Clark - Winner of BBC's The Traitors Series 2, former British Army Corporal, and star of the BBC documentary Harry Clark Goes to Rome. Follow him on Instagram and catch the documentary on BBC iPlayer. Host Trey Hall — Methodist minister, Tennessean living in London, and co-host of Spill the Spirituality (a project of the Methodist Church in Britain). Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, A banker turned comedian who describes himself as a "lapsed Muslim," Eshaan Akbar has appeared on Sex Education (Netflix), Live at the Apollo (BBC), and even voiced puppets on Spitting Image. In this deeply funny and moving conversation, Eshaan opens up about the wild days of pre-crash banking, his mother's sudden passing and the Muslim burial that changed everything, navigating faith as a South Asian man in the West, Muslim dating apps, and how grief ultimately gave him the freedom to pursue comedy with complete abandon. A masterclass in finding humor in life's heaviest moments. Guest: Eshaan Akbar - comedian, writer, podcaster (The Early Evening Shows) Hosts: Trey Hall & Jaz Ampawfarr Produced by: Rachel Matthews & John Ryan | A project of the Methodist Church Where to find Eshaan: YouTube special (coming soon), The Early Evening Shows podcast, Live at the Apollo on BBC iPlayer, @EshaanAkbar on socials Timestamps 0:00 — Welcome & intro to Spill the Spirituality 1:21 — Eshaan's entrance & boxer name banter 2:09 — The corporate-to-comedy pipeline 2:58 — Life in banking before the 2008 crash: debauchery and high-octane culture 5:40 — Feeling like an outsider: being the only Asian guy in the building 6:47 — Dreaming of becoming a diplomat (since age 6) 7:41 — Taking a comedy course to learn tighter writing 8:17 — His mother's sudden passing and "comedy chose me" 9:20 — First gig after grief & making the Edinburgh Fringe final 10:25 — The Muslim burial: climbing into the grave to lay his mother to rest 12:18 — How grief unlocked total creative freedom 13:43 — "Was she funny?" — inheriting his mum's sense of humor 14:38 — Feeling connected to his mum through dreams 15:57 — Religion's infrastructure around death 17:36 — Islam's 40-day mourning period as a "deadline" for grief 21:39 — The viral Ramadan "Call me" bit 22:45 — Muslim dating apps: Minder, Mismatch & wild DMs 24:38 — Growing up devout: religious education at home 25:33 — The mosque vs. home: two very different versions of God 29:07 — Separating God, mind, body, and soul at age 24 31:31 — "Are you spiritual?" — the levels of being a lapsed Muslim 33:02 — Daily gratitude and "I cannot believe my luck" 33:56 — Comedy as a spiritual practice 34:20 — "Even God isn't loved universally" 35:36 — The Wheel of Trust game 36:50 — Reflection on "Chapter" — life before and after mum 38:27 — "We are all writing the book of our own lives" 39:46 — Where to find Eshaan & sign-off 41:37 — Outro & credits See you next time folks! Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y’all, Jaz and Trey sit down with Kate Raworth to explore what it really means to be content with what you have in a world that constantly pushes for more. Drawing from her economic insights and personal reflections, Kate challenges the narratives of endless growth and invites a deeper conversation about enough. Together they unpack how faith, sustainability, and gratitude intersect in everyday choices. This episode encourages you to rethink success, embrace contentment, and cultivate a spirituality rooted in sufficiency rather than scarcity. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y’all, Jaz and Trey dive into the complicated world of money and how it intersects with faith, values, and everyday life. They unpack the tension between generosity and security, ambition and contentment, and the stories we carry about wealth. With honesty and humour, they explore how spirituality can reshape the way we earn, spend, and give. This episode invites you into a thoughtful conversation about stewardship, trust, and navigating finances without losing your soul. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y’all,  Jaz and Trey sit down with Bruce Parry to explore his journey from remote villages to sacred rituals around the world. Bruce shares powerful stories of immersion, cultural connection, and the spiritual lessons he has learned from indigenous communities. Together they reflect on what these experiences reveal about faith, humanity, and our shared search for meaning. This episode invites you to consider how stepping outside your comfort zone can open your heart and deepen your understanding of the sacred in everyday life. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y’all, Jaz and Trey get real about Lent and the meaningful things you can give up to create space for growth, reflection, and deeper faith. They explore how sacrifice is not just about restriction, but about intention and spiritual alignment. This episode dives into practical ideas, honest struggles, and the heart behind letting go. Join the conversation as they connect ancient practices with modern life and everyday spirituality. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, Jaz and Trey sit down with Lindz West to talk about calling, courage, and what it means to change futures one school at a time. Lindz shares how faith and spirituality shape their leadership and the everyday choices that build lasting impact. Generational impact even. This conversation weaves real life lessons, hope, and the challenges of showing up for communities with intention. Pull up a seat and spill the spirituality with us as we explore purpose, education, and trusting the journey. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, In this episode of Spill the Spirituality, we sit down with the incredible Adjoa Andoh – the powerhouse actress best known as Lady Danbury in Netflix’s global hit Bridgerton. 👑 Adjoa brings her trademark warmth, wisdom, and humour as she spills the tea on life behind the scenes, her journey through theatre and screen, and the spiritual grounding that keeps her steady in the spotlight. From navigating fame to breaking barriers in British theatre, this conversation dives deep into resilience, representation, and the joy of telling stories that really matter. It’s Lady Danbury like you’ve never heard her before – unfiltered, inspiring, and full of heart. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, In this bold and honest episode of Spill the Spirituality, Jaz and Trey are joined by Shazia Mirza - award-winning comedian and cultural commentator - to unpack the often uncomfortable tension between religion and spirituality. With her trademark wit and unfiltered honesty, Shazia reflects on faith, identity and growing up within religious structures, while questioning what spirituality looks like outside of rigid rules. The conversation moves between laughter and depth, touching on belief, doubt, freedom, and the courage it takes to ask difficult questions. Together, they explore whether spirituality can exist without religion, why humour is such a powerful tool for truth-telling, and how personal belief evolves over time. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, In this deeply reflective episode of Spill the Spirituality, Jaz and Trey sit down with Brett Harman - known to many for his instantly recognisable voice - to talk about life beyond the microphone. Brett opens up about navigating grie, how loss has reshaped his understanding of purpose, and the tension between being known and being truly seen. The conversation moves into bigger spiritual questions too: is karma real, and how do our actions echo through our lives and relationships? With honesty, warmth and moments of quiet vulnerability, Brett reflects on identity, meaning and what it looks like to keep searching when certainty feels out of reach. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, In this episode of Spill the Spirituality, Jaz and Trey are joined by Sam Walker, who shares the life-changing decision to move over 6,000 miles and start again from scratch. Sam opens up about what it really takes to leave behind familiarity, security and comfort in pursuit of something new. The conversation explores fear, faith and the internal wrestling that comes with big leaps - especially when you don’t have all the answers mapped out. From navigating uncertainty to discovering resilience and purpose along the way, Sam reflects on how the move reshaped his identity, priorities and spiritual outlook. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok

Hey Y'all, In Part 2 of our “Best of the Guests” series, we continue celebrating the incredible minds, hearts, and souls that have graced our podcast. Dive into conversations that explore deeper spiritual truths, personal breakthroughs, and the moments that made us stop, think, and grow. From profound guidance to lighthearted stories, our guests offer wisdom, laughter, and inspiration for every step of your spiritual journey. This episode is perfect for anyone seeking a dose of reflection, encouragement, and connection with kindred spirits. Join the Spill the Spirituality community, follow the show and reach out to the hosts - we'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and feedback! Learn about Spill the Spirituality Podcast, Community & Events Like us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Instagram Find us on TikTok