Hello and welcome to today's podcast. Today, I have Dr. Angie Welikala, and I'm very excited to bring her to your ears. I’m excited to bring you this amazingly beautiful woman. She's got a truly brilliant story, and today, she's going to open up and share some about it. She is CEO and founder of Healing Agents – which is basically a holistic approach to the big C word; cancer. She also works on the other C, which is chiropractic. I'm excited to hear a little bit more about that too. Amongst all of that, she's also got a great book; The 21 Day Cleanse and Detox Jumpstart. And then on top of that, even more, she's a two-time cancer survivor – and she's obviously going to be sharing that story too. [00:01:20] Harriet: I'm excited to welcome you to the show, Dr. Angie. Dr. Angie: Thank you so much, Harriet. Thank you so much for having me. [00:01:28] Harriet: I’d love for you to let us know what you’re up to right now. What's really exciting you in your health business? Dr. Angie: The greatest joy for me right now is, we've really launched our new non-profit called Healing Agents International. We have a huge benefit concert coming up in October in L.A. on the 29th. Dr. Angie: This is just a place where – you know, when I was walking through cancer, like; “I'm a doctor, right? I don't care about the crap. Tell me the truth. My life is on the line here. What are the answers? What are the choices, what are the options?” So, I'm so excited to create that place where anyone can come and get the truth and get the real deal, because your life is on the line, so these decisions are huge. Harriet: Amazing! [00:02:26] Harriet: I’ve heard that you do help a lot of people. Who's the typical person who comes to you and what are they looking for? Dr. Angie: Every week, we get a handful. Ten, fifteen people now, because our reach is getting bigger thanks to people like you, Ms. Harriet. But the basic person is [asking]; "Where do I go? What do I do? How do I start? What are the super foods? What is the nutrition I need to be putting in my body?" Also; "What are those natural treatments you keep talking about, Dr. Angie, and who do I go to? Where do I find this?" Dr. Angie: The most persons getting the direction of drug surgery and chemo – that's pretty much standard, but there's a whole other spectrum that I think patients are missing when they're walking through this. So I'm so blessed to be able to provide that for them. [00:03:25] Harriet: And so the things that you offer, are they a fusion of the modern day, cancer-healing opportunities or are they collaboration of the hospitalization process? What do you offer people? Dr. Angie: Well, I sit down with them – usually over the phone – and we kind of create a road map, because everybody's different. Some people have the full healing circle figured out, where they've got their integrative doctors, they've got their supplements, they’ve got to have surgery. So I just kind of help navigate them through the process in which I've been successful, and then see where the holes are. See where we need to fill in the blanks with different professionals. Dr. Angie: I'm blessed to have met a ton of people across the country that are professional health doctors that all work together, of all different spectrums of this circle. [00:04:18] Harriet: I love to share a little bit about – because, obviously, a lot of people wonder; how on earth did you get in to all this? We're going to get into some of the hard moments for you a little bit later, but I'd love to know about where you came from, your upbringing. What's really influenced you, positive and negative, growing up to bring you to this point today? Dr. Angie: I was born in Yorba Linda, California. The cool story there is I was adopted at birth. My birth mom was found in a clinic, and she was pretty much a drug addict and lived on the streets. I was basically a meal ticket for her. My parents paid her so they could have me. Dr. Angie: And I didn't know this until I was in Chiropractic College, but the person responsible for connecting me to my parents today was my parents' family chiropractor! I got to visit him and it has really been a full circle healing for me, just traveling this road of where I came from, how I started. Dr. Angie: It's a huge miracle that I'm even here – and then I'm still here after this crazy stage 4 cancer journey so … here we go! I keep going! [00:05:43] Harriet: You know, I hear a lot of people who have stories around the fact that they were adopted at a young age, and passed around from place to place. They’re abused, and weren’t looked after properly – and foster home, foster home, foster home. Harriet: Now, in their adult life, they blame it on their childhood, and they haven't done anything about it. Were you one of those who had a difficult childhood upbringing, or did you land with some amazing parents? How did that look for you? [00:06:10] Dr. Angie: Yeah, I had a great parents. I had everything provided for me. I lived a very comfortable lifestyle, although I did fall into some cracks where I did have some childhood abuse that was very hard for my family to hear about. You know, I'm still healing from that today. I still have to really work on; that's the old story, you know, that; that shouldn't have happened to me and I'm okay, just the way I am. Dr. Angie: That feeling of not being wanted. I was a kid I would walk around the mall with my mom and wonder, "Is that my mom? Is that my mom? Is she going to come and get me?" Dr. Angie: That little hole has been filled by God and by my life experiences and all the blessings that I get to see every week with helping people. [00:07:10] Harriet: I remember you mentioned, when we chatted before, that really believing that "you were enough" has really helped you through that. Harriet: Is there any advice that you could offer to any other woman – or even man – who’s been through that kind of upbringing themselves and is working on that area of their life? [00:07:29] Dr. Angie: Just keep going. Dr. Angie: It's the battlefield of the mind, right? One of my favorite pastors and mentors and authors is Joyce Meyer, and she has her story where she was abused many [times] and into the teens by her own father. And here she has one of the biggest ministries in the world and – look at what Guy can do. She's a firm believer of; just keep putting that truth in your brain and staying focused on that. Take out those lies that might still be lingering in there from your childhood. Harriet: Nice. So Battlefield of the Mind, by Joyce Meyer, and focus on putting in the truth and taking out the lies that you’ve been telling yourself. [00:08:22] Harriet: I know that you've had quite a story and quite an upbringing. I'd love it if you could vulnerable enough to share some of the things – some of your worst points that have allowed you to create the life that you have today. In fact, let's go for the hardest one. Let’s just pick the hardest, most gruelling health challenge of your life, up until now, and let's share how that’s changed and turned you into a person you are today? Dr. Angie: That’s a big question, my friend. Harriet: It is. [00:08:52] Dr. Angie: There's a couple of things, but one of the first big defining moments for me – and I think that's what helped me keep digging through stage four later – was my first diagnosis. Dr. Angie: In the beginning, I did the biopsy and I was declared stage 0. But when I was told if I did the double mastectomy, I wouldn't have to do chemo radiation. So I, as a chiropractor, was like; yes! That’s the choice right? [00:09:19] Dr. Angie: I did that, and it was that was all good. But, for me, when I was going through the biopsy – [that] was the defining moment. Because here I was, I was just 35 years old, I had a beautiful practice … serving patients and working crazy. Dr. Angie: And I'm lying on this table, and it's a very hard table with a circle in it, and my right breast is stuck in a clamp in the middle of this hole of the table. This gentleman is shooting a needle in my breast, into the exact spot where they saw some sort of calcification. Dr. Angie: In that moment I realized; "What the heck is going on?” Like, “Enough is enough. I draw the line. No more doormat syndrome for me. This is where that’s gotten me, right?” I am face down with a needle in my boob, and what am I going to do next? [00:10:20] Dr. Angie: So, that's when I had to rise up and put Angie on the list of priority; for my life, for my health. Angie’s number one, and then next is serving other people. That was one of my big “Ah ha!” moments. It was huge. [00:11:03] Harriet: How did you pick yourself up? I know you said; "no more doormat syndrome!", but did you go into one of those downward spirals for a while, or did you just have to feel that pain, and then get catapulted into where you wanted to be? [00:11:20] Dr. Angie: The first time – it took me a long time to put my head around that word: cancer. Dr. Angie: "I have cancer? What? I'm a Chiropractor! I've been adjusted since I was sixteen. I eat healthy. I've exercised my whole life. What?" Dr. Angie: The first round was kind of a shock. This stock lasted for such a long time. I think, when I got through that first one – it took me about a year. I was declared cancer-free, up until three years. And then the second time came, and that was like; "Okay. Let's see what you're really made of.” [00:11:59] Dr. Angie: There are all these big tests of who we are as a character and as a survivor. I've survived some crazy stuff as a child, and it keeps building me stronger, really, to just do bigger, massive things for this country and this world that we live in. Harriet: I love it. Thanks for being so open about it. [00:12:27] Harriet: When you found yourself in that place, were there some – what I like to call – healthy living lessons that came out of that, that you’d care to pass along to the listeners being in that stage of cancer? Dr. Angie: Sure. [00:12:45] Dr. Angie: Number one lesson is that food is medicine. Food changed my biochemistry of my body. Very thought-out food combinations and supplements. As a chiropractor, I was like; "Yeah, some supplements are great. No big deal.” But when your life depends on it … Dr. Angie: I've watched even some tumor markers in the last month. My tumor markers went up about twenty, thirty points, and I was like; what. So, I changed a bunch of food stuff and added more exercise, and my numbers went down again, six or seven points. Dr. Angie: So, food is medicine! And I think a lot of people are missing that boat that they can easily do at home. [00:13:35] Dr. Angie: Number two – love is the answer. Dr. Angie: Love is the answer to so many things; loving yourself, loving the situation. Just having love as a cornerstone for this whole journey helps you get through it. Dr. Angie: And number three would be that self-care button. Remember we talked about priority; putting your name on the priority list. Self-care is one of those big lessons. Because if I'm not doing self-care, I’m not taking care of myself, then my body’s going to go the other direction. [00:14:13] Harriet: There's one thing that I really want to highlight, Dr. Angie, and that is number one. Harriet: When you said "My life depends on it." Harriet: I want to massively point out that I don't want everyone to be waiting until they have cancer to decide; "oh dear.” Dr. Angie: Right! Harriet: “My life depends on it.” Because right now, in this moment, this is the youngest you’re ever going to be. There is no magic pill, there is no reverse, there is no turn back the clock, Garnier magic special cream. Dr. Angie: Yup. Harriet: Your body is now, and your body depends on you to be putting in the right stuff. Your life depends on it. And that is such a powerful message that I feel every woman, every man, every child needs to hear. Dr. Angie: Yes. And I still need to hear that! [00:15:18] Harriet: The last thing I want to ask about your story and your experiences is – I know that you're on a healing journey already, but how has it been for a woman? Has it led to you finding the right person to spend your life with? Has it led to you having a family? How did you get over the pain? Have you been attending courses? Have you been working with a coach? Harriet: What's been the road map for you? [00:15:45] Dr. Angie: There's so many levels of healing, right? Dr. Angie: I still have lymphedema in my body – my right arm and my right leg. I have to wear these compression things. My body is still recovering from what we call the collateral damage of chemo and radiation. Dr. Angie: For those of you who don’t know, of course I never wanted to put that in my body, right? The integrative doctors are like; "No, don't do that!" But for me, I had fluid in my lungs! I had fluid around my heart! I had a fractured L5. I was in a wheelchair. Dr. Angie: So, there comes a point where there's a limitation. You’ve got to have that chemo. I was fortunate enough to just have it for two-and-a-half months, and it really helped my body put the fire out of this cancer journey. [00:16:37] Dr. Angie: But I’m still a work-in-progress. I don’t have it all put together. I don’t have all the answers, but I do know that I am just walking it out, day by day. Dr. Angie: Loving myself more every day, accepting myself every day, even though my body is not the weight that I want it right now. It's got limitations. I can't adjust – I only adjust [to] about a handful of people a day. I'm just grateful. Dr. Angie: I'm grateful I'm not in a wheelchair. I'm grateful I can walk. I'm grateful I can take the dog for a walk. That's kind of where I'm at; just being grateful for every day. [00:17:45] Harriet: You know, we all have these points in our lives, where we’ve just got to say; enough is enough, and I’m just glad that you got out of it alive, and you’re on the healing journey up. Dr. Angie: Yes. [00:17:59] Harriet: Is there a person in your experience who’s had an amazing transformation or who’s made amazing progress who you’ve worked with that you'd like to share? Dr. Angie: Gosh, I'm so blessed, there’s – I've got such a great handful of women right now that have had positive results. Dr. Angie: Just yesterday, literally, someone had a clear scan, and the results are clear. Another woman did all the nutrition stuff and she's having a small surgery and she's doing great. Where I come in is that encouraging word every week, or I email you, or I text you – I'm walking with you, and you don't feel alone! Dr. Angie: And the timing is always perfect, because God always puts them in my heart at the right time, and I call them or I check in. [00:18:56] Dr. Angie: The letters and the emails I get are just proof of the blessing and the impact that we're actually making. Right now, we've got five women that are just thriving and kicking butt. Already, this woman that just got her clear scan yesterday is already doing a video and promoting Healing Agents! And being an ambassador! She’s had surgery today, too, so I’m like; "Wow! Look at the transformation already!" Dr. Angie: Not even a day after her [surgery], and she’s already, like; “Okay, I’m doing this!” She took off her wig and showed her bald head, and was so strong and passionate. Dr. Angie: I’m humbled. I’m so humbled that this is happening. [00:19:46] Harriet: Wow. Harriet: It's like when you have a child, and they're learning to ride a bike. You'd put your hand on their – put it at the back of the saddle. And you're holding on, and when you know they've got it, you're like; "and you're ready to go." And they just fly. [00:20:20] Harriet: Let's head on to our advice section. Harriet: What is one big piece of advice that you enjoy giving to people every single day? Whether it's water, whether it's chiropractic, eating greens – what is it for you that you feel is super important? [00:20:37] Dr. Angie: I just want them to breathe. Dr. Angie: It's so overwhelming. You've got six doctors coming at you. You've got your bin of supplements. But I really encourage the listener right now to just stop, take a deep breath. You're not going to die today. You're not going to die tomorrow. It took fifteen plus years for this thing to get in your body, it's going to take some time. But to know that you are right where you're supposed to be. Dr. Angie: And if could just pause, and trust that, that's where some big healing can happen. Harriet: Nice. All good things take time. Dr. Angie: Absolutely. [00:21:22] Harriet: And there's a lot of listeners, Dr. Angie, who haven't got cancer. They don't have a diagnosis, but they know that their body isn't charging forward at its best. What are some great pointers that you can give to help listeners make the movement towards their ideal health? Dr. Angie: You know, we talked about that one thing, right? We want to talk about that pause in a day. Those quiet moments. Dr. Angie: I would always look at fear. Where there's fear, there's no love, right? And I think fear has been a big blocker in my life, and I still have to do an inventory; "Okay, where's the fear meter today?" And I think fear blocks the immune system. I think it blocks all the processes of the body, and it takes up so much space! [00:22:16] Dr. Angie: Fear is just a false evidence appearing real. It's an old story that we're talking about. I would advise them to see what might be underlying the thing, that fearful part, that's not allowing them to move forward. [00:23:08] Harriet: Your one thing, as recommended by Dr. Angie, is some quiet time. Take inventory and look at your fear and see where it is. [00:23:24] Harriet: If you can go back in time, twenty, thirty years, and tell your old self one thing, what would that be? Dr. Angie: I love this question, because I think I literally just told myself this week that I've been such a driver in getting things moving, and trying to do it on my own strength. Dr. Angie: I would say; “Baby girl – (I always like to say that, because that's how God kind of talks to me some times) – baby girl, you are enough. You are fearfully and wonderfully made." And that; “God has all these plans laid out for us.” Dr. Angie: Where I am today – even a year ago, I wouldn't have been able to do this interview with you with such confidence and love, and just enough authentic place. I would have been worried about; "Oh, did I say the right thing?” or, “What are the listeners going to think?" Now, I'm just living fearlessly, because we just conquered stage four crazy cancer. Dr. Angie: Life is short. Boom! What's next? Harriet: I love that! And I’m excited for your book to come out; Living Fearlessly. [00:24:56] Harriet: You’ve been brilliant. There is one last thing that I want to get your opinion on, before we go into the clarity round. And that is chiropractic. Harriet: I hear a lot of people say; "Chiropractic is great if you are having a sports injury,” “Chiropractic is great if you've got a bad back.” Who would you recommend chiropractic is really suited for? [00:25:21] Dr. Angie: Oh, my goodness – every single person in the world! Dr. Angie: I’m a paediatric chiropractor, specialized in pregnancy and pregnant moms. [00:25:38] Dr. Angie: Okay, so here's Chiropractic 101 that a lot of people missed, because the world and society puts us in this low-back pain box: chiropractic is a nerve-function profession. We literally look for the fuses in the spine of every single tissue, cell, and organ is controlled by the nervous system. So, especially the cancer patient. I couldn’t have processed the chemo every week, the radiation every week. I went to my guru chiropractors that taught at the Chiropractic College. They did every technique we have in chiropractic on me. Dr. Angie: I make sure that the people that I work with find that chiropractor in their life, because each adjustment is going to increase your immune system 48%. Dr. Angie: When you’re fighting cancer or any illness, any autoimmune disease – gosh. It’s a function thing! So, let’s give a hundred percent function in the body, right? Makes sense. [00:27:15] Harriet: I had a few statistics, actually, that I hope you can clear up on functioning usage of your body, and how your body functions without a chiropractic adjustment. Are you aware of those? Is there any that you can fill me in on? [00:27:30] Dr. Angie: I just know that, that adjustment, they did research that a single, tiny adjustment increases the immune system 48%. There are so many research articles out there. The best website I send everybody to is the ICPA4kids.org. They have tons of research about how chiropractic helps kids with asthma, helps kids function better with autism. I've worked closely with a lot of these doctors and leaders in my profession and it’s insane how much cool stuff happens in your office. [00:28:12] Dr. Angie: And you want to find the chiropractor that's teaching orientations in their health class. [00:28:27] Dr. Angie: We also have this cool network called the League of Chiropractic Women, and that's what I'm a part of as well. Girl, I can get you a chiropractor in any state of this country. That’s how big we are. It's a sisterhood and it's amazing passionate women that love chiropractic and are changing lives every week. [00:29:00] Harriet: Let's head into the quick fire questions and do a wrap up. Are you ready? Dr. Angie: Perfect. Bring it! [00:29:07] Harriet: What is your favorite movie? Dr. Angie: Top Gun. Tom Cruise all the way. [00:29:18] Harriet: What is your favorite book? Dr. Angie: Brené Brown. All her books. The last one, Rising Strong – I loved that one. [00:29:31] Harriet: Nice. And your favorite food? Dr. Angie: Chocolate. Harriet: Any particular one? Dr. Angie: No. Just dark, healthy, superfood chocolate. [laughs] 70% cacao. Harriet: Those are good feelings. And speaking of feelings… [00:29:49] Harriet: What is your favorite feeling? [00:29:55] Dr. Angie: Joy, baby. It's all about joy. [00:30:11] Harriet: What is your favorite vegetable? [00:30:32] Dr. Angie: Too many. Dr. Angie: Green drinks, because it's easier. [00:30:43] Harriet: What is the best advice for your industry you've ever received? [00:30:57] Dr. Angie: Get that green drink in your body. It’s micro-nutrition, especially in the cells. [00:31:17] Harriet: Can you share one of your personal habits that you feel contributes to your successful health? [00:31:26] Dr. Angie: Life changing habit is that quiet time in the morning, or when I get home and the house is – I've gotten my son off to school, my husband's gone off to the office, and I have that quiet moment, that pause where I can just pray and center myself and meditate. Read encouraging things. I love reading the bible, and – just pause. Because I’m on God’s time now! All of my reports show I should have been gone two years ago, so, I’m on his assignment. [00:32:10] Harriet: What is one technological piece of equipment – maybe an app or book or training or sort of tool – that you and your bod cannot live without? [00:32:20] Dr. Angie: The iPhone, because it's the music. I got to have music all around me, all the time. [00:32:33] Harriet: Is there any particular song right now that you can't stop listening to? [00:32:34] Dr. Angie: Yes there is! [laughs] Dr. Angie: The running joke is with my family. I drive them to school, and they’re like; “No, not that song!” It's Justin Timberlake's "I've got this feeling inside my bones." [00:33:08] Harriet: Who is your hero? [00:33:16] Dr. Angie: Dr. Andrew Wakefield and Del Bigtree. He's the producer of the movie Vaxxed. They are putting their lives on the line for the truth about the vaccines that we have in this country. They’re not promoting don’t vaccinate! but, we need to be able to have the choice as a parent to decide what we want for our children. Dr. Angie: And really, it’s about getting vaccines safer. They’re my heroes right now. They're affecting change for the future generations of our children. I give it up to them. [00:33:59] Harriet: Who are three people that you know that you would love for us to have on this podcast? [00:34:11] Dr. Angie: My newest friend, who I got to meet just a few weeks ago, is Anita Moorjani. She wrote the book, Dying To Be Me. [00:35:01] Dr. Angie: She’s amazing, she’s become like a mentor for me. I love her message, [it’s] all about love and joy. [00:35:18] Dr. Angie: My other – I haven’t met her yet, but – one of my recommended readings from my people at Healing Agents is Dr. Lissa Rankin. She wrote book Mind Over Medicine. It’ so great, it’s so well-written. [00:36:17] Harriet: Is there anything that you like to leave the listeners with today? [00:36:23] Dr. Angie: Yes. I have a free download of my book for you – an e-version on the website. If you just got to HealingAgents.org (http://healingagents.org/), put your name and email in there, and you will get a free copy of Redeem Your Health – and some extra goodies with that. Dr. Angie: Along there, we've got the big, huge, benefit concert. If you click events, you can go straight to Ticket Master. Read all about the event – k it's going to be awesome. Every ticket we sell is going to go straight toward the scholarships, and helping families bridge the gap from the integrative care they need, or bills they need. Whatever their needs are, we're here to support them. I’d love to see you guys there! [00:37:09] Harriet: Amazing! Thank you so much for being a brilliant guest, and I look forward to hearing more about what are you’re up to soon. I feel like there's some big things coming your way! So, I'm excited to – maybe we can go for a round two, but thank you for joining us.