Stuff Said with Gregg Schigiel

SHOW NOTES: The interview was recorded in April 2004, in my apartment. If the movie ever got made, a shot of Flo would have looked like this (if you want a visual aid): Some snippets in the original interview that didn’t make the cut…when I piped in and asked about the dynamic at Marvel between editorial and bullpen then vs. “now,” which I cut because it just required too much set-up and the answer wasn’t that compelling (yes, it changed, but not while Flo was at Marvel). But I’d say 90-95% of the original recording is in the podcast..cut up and rearranged, but it’s all there. I considered playing more clips from personal voicemails from Flo…her being saltier about stuff (she didn’t mince words)…her saying nice things about PIX (which with her permission I quoted on the back cover of book one) but…that felt too much like an invasion and/or too self-indulgent. Though this snippet is kinda great: http://stuffsaidshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/FloMessage_IndianRestaurant.mp3 As much as Flo was my neighbor and a friend – and of course you realize this when it’s too late – I didn’t see her enough, or talk to her enough, or know her better enough…and isn’t that always the way? I’m glad I knew her as I did. As I said to someone in an email at the time, she’ll be remembered as one of the sweetest badass ladies I’ve ever had the pleasure to know and call a friend.     MUSIC: “Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin “She is Staggering” by Polaris “Oswald Piano Ditty” by Evan Lurie

SHOW NOTES: I like talking to Franco, and I think the why of that comes across in this recording, which was a long time coming. But on some level it was maybe good to have had it take this long, if only because now, with my new approach to the show, I think it ends up being a more “natural” conversation than an “proper” interview, if that makes sense. Of course, with any of these, I walk away thinking we could have/should have talked about x, y or z instead of a, b and c, but listening back, I think we covered a lot of ground and overall you, the listener, will see some different aspects of Franco and what makes him a person in comics with whom I enjoy chatting. As mentioned, we’ll both be in Baltimore for Baltimore Comic-Con, so come on out and see us and everyone else in the Kids Read Comics pavilion…it’s gonna be a fun weekend. And buy our books!   LINKS: Franco’s Big Cartel Page Franco on Twitter   MUSIC: “Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin “Yeh Yeh” by They Might be Giants “Yeah Yeah” by Cyndi Lauper

SHOW NOTES: As mentioned in my intro to the episode, this was a panel I volunteered to moderate and not one I proposed or conceived of, but that said, I was glad to have the opportunity and wanted to “do right” by the assignment. In preparation, I sought out interviews with the panelists, mostly to hear what kinds of things they’d been asked in the past, particularly so I could avoid them. So, much like when I barely talked about THE WALKING DEAD with Robert Kirkman, here I was going to have Bob Camp on and basically avoid talking about Ren & Stimpy. But honestly, he’s done so much and maybe it’s just me projecting, but I know if/when I’m ever interviewed, as much as I want to talk about the thing I’m promoting…or as much as I know SpongeBob is the most notable thing I’ve worked on…or as much as I know there’s some small cult of people that loves talking about “Fast Lane”, those aren’t, really, the things that would get me going. So on some level I’m looking for those things when I talk to people…unlocking that can of worms, but like, good worms…gummy worms, if you will. Though, in some cases I DO like the idea of a can of worms. I like getting the inside dish on stuff, exploring the challenges of things…and I for sure, 100% thought of a bunch of questions that could take that path. But as mentioned, Andy Suriano offered some advice, which was to keep things positive. He’d had experience on animation panels and knew that they could easily become big ol’ complaint-o-ramas…and as someone who’s been on plenty of kids comics panels that turn into people bemoaning channels of distribution, I thought better of it and tried to keep things positive. I neglected to mention this in my intro, but speaking of positivity, man, that Tom Bancroft makes a terrific impression. He walked into the panel room and immediately playing to the audience, and not in an obnoxious way, but a genuine “who’s excited to talk about animation?!” way…and as we were seeing up the recording stuff, he was asking audience members at random to name their favorite Disney films…dare I say he might’ve done a fine and dandy job moderating the whole affair himself. It was a fun one. Hope you enjoy(ed) listening to it.

SHOW NOTES: As I mentioned in the episode, this is the second iteration of this panel concept, the first of which you can hear here. For show notes purposes I thought I’d talk a bit, as mentioned, about Alan Davis and getting him on the panel, etc, etc. This, mostly given my admiration/appreciation for his work. Which isn’t to say I don’t appreciate the work of the other panelists; I absolutely do – I wouldn’t have asked them to participate otherwise. But Alan was the one person on the panel who was making comics when I was a kid…heck, he’s the one person on the panel who was making comics before I was (as I approach the 20th anniversary of my first professional job in comics). Putting together one of these panels I try to mix it up…different art styles, different approaches to stories and storytelling, different types of creators. So long as their work speaks to the overall thesis. I tend to like having cartoonists on, i.e. folks who both draw and write…or write with pictures. I also like to try to get at least one big/bigger “name”, someone recognizable to draw an audience. I had someone in mind for that anchor position (Not Alan, as when I pitched the panel, he wasn’t yet announced as a guest.), and when the panel was approved, they declined my invite. I started pulling together the rest of the panel…mixing it up as best I could with folks whose work I knew, a great group…and every week I’d check the guest list, contemplating potential “anchors.” And then, there it was, on the new announcement list: Alan Davis. Without repeating myself and what I said on the show, this was huge for me just as a fan. That he would be awesome for the panel didn’t hurt. I fired off an email, figuring the chances might be slim…I mean, for all I knew my email would end up in his junk folder…or the email address I found wasn’t valid anymore. He totally wrote back within 48 hours saying “I’d be happy to participate as long as it doesn’t conflict with anything Rico Renzi has scheduled. If you haven’t already, could you please check in with Rico.” I did, and there were no conflicts…it was on! Though I refused to believe it until it was actually happening…there was nearly a month yet to go and a lot can happen in a month. — On day one of the convention, I went to all my panelists’ tables to introduce myself and thank them…except Alan always had a line, and he was doing sketches…so I couldn’t get to him. But the next day, in the panel room, I introduced myself and asked him stuff about ClanDestine that wasn’t relevant to the panel…and he was gracious and soft spoken and I gotta say, it was so cool. I refrained from overdoing the gushing, but I couldn’t not tell him I was a fan, blah blah blah. — I think the panel went really well. Could I have just talked to Alan for the whole hour? Of COURSE I could have. And you might be saying, “then why not have him on as a STUFF SAID guest?” And that’d be a fair question. A part of me worries I’d do too much praising and not enough conversing…even after the panel, I think I hold almost too much reverence. I saw him and his wife and lunch and didn’t feel like I could just go over and join their conversation. I’m gonna say that’s on me more than anything else. I did, however, the next day, give them a copy of PIX, Vol. 2, as I listed Alan in the “Thanks” (in each book so far I’ve listed three folks who influenced my work in with the rest of the acknowledgements – want to know the other five names? Pick up the books! #Salesmanship). Did Alan look at the book at all (he was sketching so I gave it to his wife, who is also lovely)? Did he think, “this kid’s pretty good.”? I don’t know. Maybe he left it in his hotel room or gave it to someone as a gift…I hope he looked at it and thought good things. I’m not going to ask. He did, after the panel, tell me I was fun, so I’ll take that…that, and the recording*, especially since I forgot to pack my Captain Britain trade, the one from which I reverse-engineered the female figures to better learn to draw women, to get signed…     *evidence of a much less dopey interaction than the one I had with him as a Marvel intern (a story relayed in one of the episodes with Brian “Smitty” Smith, if memory serves).)  

SHOW NOTES: Not sure what to really say about this episode, since, as I mentioned in the episode, I kind of like the idea of the story standing on its own without too much additional commentary. I suppose I can write a bit about the process, how this all came to be and I ended up taking this approach, because this is definitely a story I’ve wanted to address. Years ago I imagined having “CJ” on STUFF SAID as a guest, and bringing up “Roberto Mendoza”…my theory was that “CJ” would deny it and then I’d have cause to reach out to folks who knew, maybe get them on record, get a really dramatic, juicy set of episodes out of it…kinda like when Marc Maron had Carlos Mencia on WTF. But as time passed that became less likely, and the idea of doing that on STUFF SAID seemed less in line with the spirit of the show…I had other solo shows that seemed a better fit…and then I got busy. At some point, and I can’t remember when, I hit upon the idea of telling the story as a story and changing all the names…and then I got it in my head to link the names, somehow, thematically. I originally was going to use superhero secret identities, to play to the “secret identity” thing, but thought that might put certain companies in mind, etc, and then somehow I hit upon THE WEST WING, and everything sort of fell into place. Which makes no sense, because outside of using Jed Bartlett, the President on the show, to represent the Editor in Chief at “Capitol Comics”, nothing else really followed that governmental hierarchy, so…I think I just liked the gimmick more than anything else (though it’s possible if you’re a huge WEST WING fan the names might get in the way the way superhero identities would*). And that’s why the story begins with the opening notes of the WEST WING theme song. The bedding music during the story comes from the score to the movie FARGO, which famously begins with text reading: THIS IS A TRUE STORY. The events depicted in this film took place in Minnesota in 1987. At the request of the survivors, the names have been changed. Out of respect for the dead, the rest has been told exactly as it occurred. Since this was also a true story, with changed names, it seemed appropriate…plus I really love the FARGO TV series, which recently ended it’s third season. A part of me wonders if that music will make people think, like the movie and tv series, this story isn’t actually true. I assure you, it is. And I’ll leave it at that. I hope you enjoyed it.     *In the novel WONDER BOYS, Michael Chabon wrote a scene where a character waits outside The Baxter Building and mentions several members of The Fantastic Four by their non-superhero names. It totally distracted me from the otherwise really great book. I apologize to any listeners for whom the WEST WING names have had the same effect.

(contains very mild adult language) SHOW NOTES: I’m doing this in a different way…I’m recording the show differently, preparing differently, and writing show notes differently. Instead of the bullet list of links and images, etc, I’m talking about the episode, commenting on things said, just getting real stream-of-conscious, or offering corrections. For example, late in the show when talking about Chris’ wedding anniversary, I used as an example of a memorable date December 6th…yeah, I should have said December 7th, you know, the date that’s to have lived in infamy? Well, clearly not, though the second I heard it I thought, “Well, that was a screw-up.” And then I thought, “In the old days I’d have re-recorded and and corrected it.” And then I thought, “Hey, I can talk about that in the show notes!” But this is the as-is conversation, unedited and unchanged. I did, after recording, add the theme song and bit of bedding music before the Chris part. This conversation was recorded from about 10:30am-12:30pm on January 12, 2017, using the website zencastr.com. I heard about it from Tom Fowler when he told me the guys at the War Rocket Ajax podcast were using it. This was my first experience with it. It’s pretty cool, though I realize I need to use something better than my headset phone microphone, as the sound quality isn’t great and there’s some weird echoing going on. I don’t know if a USB mic is the solution or using my handheld mics and USB interface, though the latter would mean it’d be harder to draw while talking, which also was happening during this conversation; I was penciling a page from a story that will appear in SPONGEBOB COMICS #68 (the cover I got an email about was for the same issue). The interesting thing about this new way of doing the show is it’s really a much looser conversation than targeted, methodical interview. As a result, I feel like a lot of stuff got left untouched, both in terms of things I thought we might/could talk about, and things that come up that I didn’t pursue further, either because something came up to distract me or because I didn’t think it worth going down that rabbit hole. In this conversation the conversation of kids and comics…it’s a conversation I’ve had a lot, and one for which I have a lot of opinions and truthfully, the whole show could have turned into that conversation. But…I opted to NOT go down than path. Maybe one day I’ll do a show with a panel to talk about that…maybe not. It’s almost too big a conversation. I’m happy to address questions or whatever in the comments below. Lastly, we talk a bit about online presence…and negative opinions online. I didn’t think of it at the time, but listening back…one could argue that what one person sees as a negative thought, someone else will agree with 100%. Evan Dorkin, whose twitter rants I enjoy a great deal and I agree with a lot, might be considered by someone else as negative. I don’t know…I think it’s a tricky needle to thread attempting to never push a wrong button, and I say that as someone who tries to post positive comments more than “I didn’t like X” or whatever. I do wonder if someone’s all cheerleading and rah-rah-rah, does the value of those affirmations diminish? If someone loves everything, then what’s actually great? I guess same thing if someone hates everything, then what’s good? There’s some of that stream of consciousness, huh? I think that’s about for show notes…until I think of something else. Wanna comment? Do it below. Don’t want to make it public? Send an email using the form on this site! Oh, and because I didn’t do this one face-to-face, I couldn’t take a silhouette photo of my guest, so, for the moment, the image above isn’t the standard face-to-face thing… …and also, oh, it’s rudeanagrams.com…I should write down my outro stuff…I forgot a bunch of stuff, including plugging the most recent issues of SPONGEBOB COMICS, issues 62 and 63, which feature the two part “Who is Mermaid Girl?” story I wrote, penciled and inked. So…check that out…and pre-order PIX! LINKS: Chris Eliopoulos on Twitter

A roundtable discussion of a variety of stuff, some of it even comics related – like perception of the work of recent younger artists, reactions to CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR, discussion of what drinks comic characters might drink, and more. Having eaten too much food and a general punchiness, it’s a real hodgepodge, complete with fart noises (apologies in advance). SHOW NOTES: Brian “Smitty” Smith’s website and Twitter Chris Giarrusso’s website and Twitter Jacob Chabot’s website and Tumblr “Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin (also on Soundcloud) Other music/audio: “She is Staggering (instrumental)” by Polaris

Stuff Said returns! After a ten month hiatus, I’m back on the mic, recording…but I’m doing it differently this time, figuring it all out along the way. Brace yourself for barely edited audio and the occasional sound of a siren in the background. But don’t worry, comic fans, you’ll notice the episode numbering continues from where we left off…no new #1…it’s a new direction, even a bit of a new look, but this ain’t no reboot/relaunch. SHOW NOTES: Here’s the video I mentioned of my drawing “Pix Plus El Deafo”: Sign up for my mailing list here. You can get signed and digital copies of my book, PIX: ONE WEIRDEST WEEKEND, here, and read the first chapter for free here. “Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin (also on Soundcloud) Other music & audio: “Welcome Back Kotter Theme”

SHOW NOTES:  Sign up for my mailing list here. You can get signed and digital copies of my book, PIX: ONE WEIRDEST WEEKEND, here, and read the first chapter for free here. Listen to my other podcast with Chris Giarrusso, CRUISIN’ TOGETHER My second job drawing comics happened while I was an assistant editor, WHAT IF? #113: The assistant editor who challenged me to draw a comic or quit, has his own comic now, FILE 13. Here’s that U.S. Census page on median income in 1998. The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Here’s an outdated webpage talking about X-Men Monopoly, with some of my art (Rogue, Marrow, and the “Good Mutant” card) Here’s a piece all about “Fast Lane”. STARFOX’S SWINGIN’ SPRING BREAK SUPER SPECIAL never got past page 6, and you can read the story of why, and see the art that exists, here. Here are my CatDog and SpongeBob sample drawings from December ’99/January ’00 (I’m surprised I got the job!): The CAPTAIN AMERICA Hate Monger issue (who’d a’thunk this issue might have “stuff” in it?): The CAPTAIN AMERICA COMICS cover recreation with one lone swastika removed (the one in the circle on the wall)…why that one? I do not know [click to enlarge]: The THOR cover I hired Mike Mignola to do in my last week at Marvel: X-BABIES: STARS REBORN, the mini-series I wrote with amazing art by Jacob Chabot (also available as part of Marvel Unlimited) Bullseye, hosted by Jesse Thorn WTF with Marc Maron Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin (also on Soundcloud) Other music & audio: “She is Staggering (instrumental)” by Polaris, “Hooray for Captain Spaulding” by Groucho Marx, “Seinfeld Theme” by Jonathan Wolff & audio from the the Seinfeld episode “The Burning”  

SHOW NOTES: Brian “Smitty” Smith’s website and Twitter Chris Giarrusso’s website and Twitter Jacob Chabot’s website and Tumblr Peanut Butter discussed in this episode Here’s a blog post by Chris Schweizer about mixed-cast and all-caps comics lettering. DC Comics Twix Ads Felicia Day‘s a famous person! Here’s an ad for Spalding basketballs I remember seeing a lot: Chris’s sound effects app is called “Instant Button” for Android What if this went differently: Here’s a quick sketch I did to commemorate Jacob’s idea of Darth Vader with the Venom Symbiote: I mentioned this droid from RETURN OF THE JEDI, who asked, “How many languages do you speak?”: The jumbo-sized Zuchkas figure is real! Ginsberg’s nipple scene, spoiler alert, from MAD MEN (may not be suitable for…chidren or folks not interested in seeing a detached nipple): An article about product placement in Marvel comics The saying about never work a day if you do what you love comes from Confucius. Smitty talked about doing one job but being expected to do another, which reminded me of this Mitch Hedberg joke (at 4:12): Eradicator, Steel, Superboy, Cyborg Superman, from an ad for the Reign of the Supermen story: Read a preview of my book at PixComic.com Hear more of Chris on our CRUISIN’ TOGETHER podcast! Pick up Chris’s books and read his web comic. Here’s a promo piece for Smitty’s project with his co-writer, Mike Raicht, Tree Mail: Check out The Basics Order the refreshed, new editions of The Mighty Skullboy Army Vol. 1 Jacob’s Spider-Gwen sketch cover: Adam Warren Jason Howard & Ryan Ottley As per the discussion of “Caveman Style”, I took this photo of the “Caveman Toilet”: “Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin (also on Soundcloud) Other music/audio: “She is Staggering (instrumental)” by Polaris, “Cantina Band” by Paul F. Tompkins and Scott Aukerman (from the podcast Comedy Bang Bang), “In the Days of the Caveman” by Crash Test Dummies

SHOW NOTES: Erica’s website, Tumblr and Twitter Erica’s contributions to the Marvel Universe Handbook Redux site Erica’s presence at Project: Rooftop Erica’s drawing of Venger from the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon for Acme Comics‘s Jermaine: Einhorn’s Epic Cookies Sub-Atomic Party Girls Erica’s Forbush Man & Ma Hunkel drawing: My drawing of Finn & Jake from 2010: Erica’s run of sketches of Wonder Woman costume variations Kate Leth’s “Less Than Live” podcast with Erica Paul Azaceta’s episode of “Stuff Said” Millennials, AKA Generation Y Deviant Art and Penciljack The crazy NYC page from Unbeatable Squirrel Girl #2: Imelda Marcos, wife of President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos, was known for having 3000 pairs of shoes…so much so that it was the leading question from Ted Koppel in a Nightline interview: ABC News Videos | ABC Entertainment News Chris Sims’s Comics Alliance piece, with Erica, about costume design. New 52 Supergirl: Current Batgirl and Classic Batgirl…with special attention to the boots: The pages from How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way & Comics & Sequential Art (respectively) about choosing the moment of an action of a pose (click to enlarge): That old interview of Erica being praised for her skill at action scenes: LaGuardia High School A model sheet of hands by Bruce Timm: See Erica’s Squirrel Girl design sketches here. I kinda dig this one: Castle Waiting The trailer for The Host: The trailer for The Way Way Back: Too Shy (by Kajagoogoo): Good Eats “Popover Sometime” episode: A random page from the Dirt Candy cookbook, with comics by Ryan Dunlavey: No Knead Bread: The Great British Baking Show Great Chefs has a YouTube Channel, but here’s a taste (no pun intended): PIX: ONE WEIRDEST WEEKEND Diamond Comics Item #DEC141546 – Order at pixcomic.com/store with code “EH” and save 20% on the paperback, digital pdf, or paperback/pdf combo Listen to CRUISIN’ TOGETHER (and Erica’s episode in particular) “Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin (also on Soundcloud) Other music/audio: “She is Staggering (instrumental)” by Polaris, “Atomic” by Blondie, “Bread & Butter” by The Newbeats  

(contains adult language) SHOW NOTES: Robert Kirkman on Twitter Kirkman’s Image Comics imprint, Skybound Image Comics Hear the April Fool’s “Robert Kurkman, Part 1″ episode here. Heat Vision & Jack: Channel 101 The 1996 Atlanta Olympics mascot, Izzy (which interestingly, came up once before on the episode with Heidi MacDonald): The “explosions” at the ’96 Atlanta Olympics Jason Howard’s episode and Tom Brevoort’s episode The Stryfe reveal from NEW MUTANTS #100: Verbose pages from the first THE WALKING DEAD paperback collection: Would that I had art to share from Robert’s Between the Ropes comic… The Scorpion King trailer: Aubrey Sitterson hosts a wrestling talk show called STRAIGHT SHOOT Jacob Chabot draws real good. The Iron Sheik, Koko B. Ware, and Papa Shango: I was incorrect in my claims re: the Riddle of the Sphinx and the Super Friends; it was a different riddle, which you can read about here. Jason Latour, please share any art you did for President U.S.A. Here’ my copy of EX-PRESIDENTS: Robert Kirkman’s appearance on CONAN: The Seinfeld documentary “Comedian” Max Landis Robert’s .5 CGC graded WALKING DEAD #1: Robert’s “reader copy” of WALKING DEAD #1 on his spinner rack: Robert’s appearance on SPEAKEASY WITH PAUL F. TOMPKINS: Chris Gethard Clips from BATMAN: THE BRAVE & THE BOLD: BEN 10 by Peter David and Dan Hipp Robert’s Mission Statement: That scene in TOY STORY 3 where Andy gives Woody to Bonnie Art Thibert “Something to Talk About” by Bonnie Raitt: From 2009, the matter of comics pricing according to a Marvel executive Dinosaurus O’Charley’s The Peter David/Todd McFarlane debate transcript The Bendis/Kirkman debate: Comichron is a site full of comics sales numbers Penciljack SCIENCE DOG: PIX: ONE WEIRDEST WEEKEND Diamond Comics Item #DEC141546 – Order at pixcomic.com/store with code KIRKMAN and save 15% on the paperback, pdf, or paperback/pdf combo Listen to CRUISIN’ TOGETHER “Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin (also on Soundcloud) Other music/audio: “She is Staggering (instrumental)” by Polaris, “Situation” by Tom Jones, “Angela” by Jose Feliciano  

(contains some adult language) SHOW NOTES: Skybound Battle Pope The resignation of Pope Benedict XVI Cloudfall Invincible Ryan Ottley Leaping Lanny Poffo: The Walking Dead The Walking Dead on AMC A blog post by Nick Kroll with links to episodes of Cavemen The Munsters 1964 opening credits: Marvel Zombies Robert’s Ultimate X-Men reviewed Irredeemable Ant-Man An article about Killraven not seeing print Robert’s Manifesto video: Read the Todd McFarlane/Peter David debate transcript here. The Bendis/Kirkman debate: The story of the buried ET cartridges Listen to CRUISIN’ TOGETHER “Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin (also on Soundcloud) Other music/audio: “She is Staggering (instrumental)” by Polaris, “Zombie” by The Cranberries, “Invincible” by OK Go   APRIL FOOLS!

(contains adult language) SHOW NOTES: Jackie Kashian’s website, Twitter and Tumblr pages Jackie’s DORK FOREST podcast Buy Jackie’s special, “This Will Make and Excellent Horcrux” here (only $5!). Buy Jackie’s albums here. Previous STUFF SAID episodes with comedy talk: Dave Roman, Brad Guigar, Roger Langridge NYC Podfest Eddie Pepitone Myq Kaplan Dave Hill Jackie’s CONAN appearance from Feb 2015: Marc Maron Jen Kirkman Jeff Goldblum in JURASSIC PARK, “Life finds a way”: Dan Telfer Dharma & Greg Erin Foley Robert Hack on THE DORK FOREST Robert Stack Maria Bamford Here’s a brief(ish) rundown of my comics writing/creation process, kinda-sorta. One of Jackie’s appearances on Kevin Allison’s RISK! storytelling show: The Jerry Seinfeld & Orny Adams documentary “Comedian”. Stephen Wright Wyatt Cenac Auggie Smith Mary Mack RED SHIRTS, by John Scalzi The Joan Rivers documentary “A Piece of Work” Patton Oswalt’s Just for Laughs 2012 keynote about gatekeepers, which you can READ or WATCH. Hark, a Vagrant! Oglaf Hard Times Ed Brubaker’s DORK FOREST appearance SF Sketchfest Paul F. Tompkins‘s Matt Damon story: “Sad Diner”, by Brian “Smitty” Smith: The emo superhero paintings Jackie mentioned can be seen here. Bill Willingham’s DORK FOREST episode Andy Kindler Greg Fitzsimmons The movie poster for A MAN CALLED HORSE: Evening at the Improv episodes on Hulu Molly Shannon’s comedian character, Jeannie Darcy, from SNL: Kevin Eastman on THE DORK FOREST Hannibal Buress Christian Finnegan K.P. Anderson Ted Alexandro Brian Regan Todd Glass Rory Scovel Bill Burr The stand-up comic I did years ago, with a joke that’s clearly a bit…dated:  Chris Hardwick Brian Posehn Ben Acker Ben Blacker Understanding Comics, Comics & Sequential Art, and How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way Spenser: For Hire, books and TV series James Patterson PIX: ONE WEIRDEST WEEKEND Diamond Comics Item #DEC141546 – Order at pixcomic.com/store with code JACKIE and save 20% (paperback, pdf, or paperback/pdf combo), expires 4/15/2015 Listen to CRUISIN’ TOGETHER “Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin (also on Soundcloud) Other music/audio: “She is Staggering (instrumental)” by Polaris, “Out on the Road” by Norah Jones, “Spenser: For Hire Theme”, and assorted snippets from Jackie Kashian’s comedy albums, “Circus People”, “It is Never Going to be Bread”, and “This Will Make and Excellent Horcrux”  

SHOW NOTES: Roger Langridge’s website and twitter Read an excellent interview with Roger that I refer to a number of times in our conversation here. Th cover of Paradox Press’s BIG BOOK OF URBAN LEGENDS, where I’m pretty sure I first saw Roger’s work in the form of the alligator on the cover: The drawing I mentioned wherein I drew the mouth of a gorilla in a manner that was surely influenced by Roger’s work, even if very poorly executed: The cover and some interiors from Les Cartoonists Dangeroux – FRED THE CLOWN: As an assistant editor at Marvel I hired Roger to ink Ron Frenz on a Captain America story. Here are a couple of pages, including the one with “the real Captain America”: I have a mini-comic of Roger’s pre-Boom! Muppets comics; when I find it I’ll post a photo here. Miss Piggy uses the phrase “bacon brain” in this “Pigs in Space” sketch from THE MUPPET SHOW. THOR: THE MIGHTY AVENGER Roger took photos of the sculpts he did as a young man of the cast of the Popeye comic strips (they’re awesome): But wait, there’s more! Roger sent me a shot of this bonus, non-Popeye sculpt, of Mr. Mind, as Roger put it, “at 100% scale, yet!”: Here’s a TV commercial for the Popeye movie from 1980 (with the screenplay by Jules Feiffer): The Smithsonian Collection of Newspaper Comics Read more about Popeye and Bill Blackbeard’s ALL IN COLOR FOR A DIME piece on E.C. Segar here. Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass Check out more about Roger’s books – SNARKED, ART D’ECCO, THE SHOW MUST GO ON, ABIGAIL AND THE SNOWMAN and of course FRED THE CLOWN at his website. BONUS AUDIO: Roger and I talk about his digital-only book THE 13TH FLOOR (contains spoilers): http://stuffsaidshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/RogerLangridge_Extra_13thFloor.mp3 The flashback cross hatching I mentioned in PIX: ONE WEIRDEST WEEKEND: A clip from The Young Ones: An episode of The Day to Day: Mark Thomas Tim Minchin Bill Bailey Daniel Kitson Stuart Lee Flight of the Concords (HBO site) Dylan Horrocks, New Zealand cartoonist and author of HICKSVILLE Roger was paired with a notable British writer to produce this comic for The Guardian newspaper. Other podcast appearances: Let’s Get Busy, War Rocket Ajax, The George and Tony Entertainment Show, Secret Identity, Nerd Lunch, and The Chris-o-Matic Show web video series. PIX: ONE WEIRDEST WEEKEND Diamond Comics Item #DEC141546 “Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin (also on Soundcloud) Other music/audio: “She is Staggering (instrumental)” by Polaris, “London Calling” by The Clash, and “I Yam What I Yam” by Harry Nilsson  

(contains brief adult language) SHOW NOTES: Chris Staros on Twitter Top Shelf’s website and Twitter More about tinnitus (ringing in the ears/”getting boxed”/hearing damage) Courtesy of Chris, here’s photographic proof of his metal life and the band, Lethal Promise: Valient Thorr Fu Manchu Chris talked about trying out for sports and “natural talent”, things he touches up a bit in HIS comics in YEARBOOK STORIES, available from, yep, Top Shelf. SCAD, the Savannah College of Art & Design, with campuses in Savannah and Atlanta. Top Shelf’s booth at Comic-Con, from the Top Shelf twitter account: V for Vendetta We only mention it briefly, but Chris entered comics with The Staros Report, “an annual fanzine dedicated to promoting “the most intelligent and innovative” graphic novels in the business. In addition to ranked reviews, each issue of The Staros Report featured interviews, comics, bibliographies, character guides, letters, and more.” (wikipedia) Before it was Top Shelf, it was Primal Groove. Here, the original Primal Groove logo and the Top Shelf anthology they published: Craig Thompson (Blankets & Goodbye Chunky Rice) The book I tried to get published as an original graphic novel at Marvel and got frustrated with the P&L person over number crunching was BLAZE OF GLORY. Colonel Tom Parker Rich Koslowski (Three Fingers, The King. BB Wolf and the 3 LPs) David Yurkovitch (Death by Chocolate, Less Than Heroes) Jess Fink (We Can Fix It!, Chester 5000) Kevin Cannon (Far Arden, Crater XV) Double Barrel From Double Barrel, a few pages of “Penny from the Front” because I think it’s awesome: The TV Room at Graceland (photo found here): Official Elvis events listing Here’s a nice selection of Elvis factoids and trivia. Elvis 1968 Comeback Special: Elvis, “Aloha from Hawaii”: Andy Kaufman Elvis story/impression: Elvis tribute artists Chris mentioned: Cody Slaughter, Ben Portsmouth, Pete Storm, Anthony Shore PIX: ONE WEIRDEST WEEKEND Diamond Comics Item #DEC141546 “Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin (also on Soundcloud) Other music/audio: “She is Staggering (instrumental)” by Polaris, “Heartbreak Hotel” and “Suspicious Minds” by Elvis Presley  

SHOW NOTES: Brian “Smitty” Smith’s website and Twitter Chris Giarrusso’s website and Twitter Jacob Chabot’s website and Tumblr SLIDERS The Diarrhea Song, examined. The girl from SPORTS NIGHT who was in SLIDERS is named Sabrina Lloyd and she did indeed play a woman named Wade on the show (Sliders, not Sports Night, where she played Natalie). The “bad date” reference in my book, PIX: ONE WEIRDEST WEEKEND: Roe v. Wade VOLTRON FROM DAYS OF LONG AGO Sven from Voltron: Nintendo Wii U G-MAN SUPER JOURNAL (pre-order now!) PIX: ONE WEIRDEST WEEKEND, in Diamond PREVIEWS now; item #DEC141546 CRUISIN’ TOGETHER podcast! The Tales from the Con Cosby guest strip Subpoena Will McAvoy Dave Matthews Band’s “I Did It”: Burger King’s BK Burger Shots, reviewed. A piece on the Burger King Whaler (the comments are pretty amazing in peoples’ passion for this bygone sandwich) The Burger King Whopper Bar Pizza Burger:  The Mall of America Thumper’s lesson in BAMBI: The Robot 6 article on PIX and its comments we discussed. Grasshopper’s Comics Randall Trang’s FCBD comic Dragonball Z: Battle of the Gods Trailer: Marisa Tomei Academy Awards urban legend Erica Henderson on Tumblr Project: Rooftop #PixPlus art’s up at PixComic.com, on my Twitter feed, and at this Tumblr page Jason Mantzoukas Greggisms Gadlfy Ahmet Zappa George Plimpton “Your Song” by Elton John “Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin (also on Soundcloud) Other music/audio: “She is Staggering (instrumental)” by Polaris, “Fantastic Voyage” by Coolio, “If I Were a Carpenter” by Bobby Darin  

SHOW NOTES: Jason Howard’s website and twitter The Tom Cruise move with Jaime Foxx is called COLLATERAL The Photoshop flatting plug-ins we mentioned are here. Courtesy of Jason, get a load of these rubber band guns he made in his early teens: Here’s an episode of the show Better by Design where they rework the shopping cart: Jeremy Bastian More about that G-Man doll in THE PACT #4 Belkin n52te Speedpad Hemmings Motor News‘ very plain covers: Motor Trend/Car & Driver KITT from Knight Rider: James Bond’s Submarine Lotus from The Spy Who Loved Me: The Ferrari Testarossa from Miami Vice: Jason’s Lizard sketch over my rough, from Emerald City Comic-Con 2012: Here’s the Galactus by Ryan Ottley: For comparison – and quite a study in different interpretations of a plot, here’s Jason’s and my page one of our Double Vision sample pages, respectively: Courtesy of Jason, some of his early sample pages; specifically his Savage Dragon and Electro samples: Here are Jason and Robert Kirkman with the public-appearance Super Dinosaur costume: I got to draw Jason’s “dream character”, Solo, professionally, though the art never actually saw print: In Fafhrd & the Gray Mouser, Mike Mignola was inked by Al Williamson.  P. Craig Russell inked Mignola in Gotham By Gaslight. Read Rob Liefeld’s telling of his working with Mike Mignola here. See pages from Jason’s Code Blue back-up story here. Dan Carlin hosts the excellent “Common Sense” and “Hardcore History” podcasts. Here’s the page from my sketchbook (from 1993) I had signed by Jerry Robinson and Dick Giordano at my first convention…my embarrassment is only heightened as the drawing’s not even complete!: THE Chick-Fil-A Cow Hero comics Jason and I drew:  BONUS AUDIO: Jason and I discussing his first car…and talk of eating barbecue during San Diego Comic-Con:http://stuffsaidshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/JasonHoward_Extras_1stCar_BBQ.mp3 Jeremy Dale “Stuff Said Theme” by Craig Chin (also on Soundcloud) Other music/audio: “She is Staggering (instrumental)” by Polaris, “Danger Zone” by Kenny Loggins, “Mission: Impossible” by Billy May, “Double Vision” by Foreigner  

(contains brief adult language) SHOW NOTES: Kurt Busiek’s website and Twitter The other assistant editors: Marc Sumerak (my successor) & Glenn Greenberg (my predecessor) Gold Kryptonite Mohel/Moyel “Day of the …Read More

SHOW NOTES: Ryan Ottley’s website, Tumblr, Deviant Art and Twitter pages Ryan and I met over dinner at Lupie’s, in Charlotte, NC Ryan’s creatures & monsters sketchbook (which mentions briefly …Read More