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The Business Of

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Conversations with leaders on building careers, companies & character the hard way. No shortcuts, just sweat.

Founded by Charlie Selth, Will Chapman and Dimitri Gremos, the show began as 'The Business Of' – a passion project between Will and Charlie who were curious about what it really takes to succeed.

Today, Sweat Capital is an evolving platform that combines that same curiosity with a bigger mission: to democratise access to knowledge and humanise business leadership in Australia.

Conversations with leaders on building careers, companies & character the hard way. No shortcuts, just sweat.

Founded by Charlie Selth, Will Chapman and Dimitri Gremos, the show began as 'The Business Of' – a passion project between Will and Charlie who were curious about what it really takes to succeed.

Today, Sweat Capital is an evolving platform that combines that same curiosity with a bigger mission: to democratise access to knowledge and humanise business leadership in Australia.

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#141 - Charlie Viola: From Bank Teller To One of Australia’s Highest Ranked Wealth Advisers

In this episode of Sweat Capital, we sit down with Charlie Viola, Founder of Viola Private Wealth, to unpack one of the toughest decisions in wealth management - walking away after you’ve successfully built a business and client base. Charlie helped grow Pitcher Partners’ wealth business from under $50 million to more than $3.5 billion in funds under management. At that point in his career, he made the call to execute a management buyout of Pitcher’s wealth arm. We discuss what drives a move like that, how winning clients changes when you’re on your own, and the realities of building a high-net-worth advisory business without the backing of an established advisory platform. Charlie also shares what wealthy clients actually value, how trust is built over decades, and how he’s scaled Viola Private Wealth to advising on over $3 billion today while maintaining a high-touch model. A conversation about relationships, credibility, and playing the long game in wealth management. *** This episode was recorded on 8 April 2026. Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
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#140 - “I Fell Into It…” Intentionality vs Serendipity In Careers (March Recap)

No shortage of highly successful people have been quoted as saying “I sort of just fell into it...” but what are people really saying here? In this March recap episode, Lulu, Charlie & Dimi explore the concept of intentionality and whether people ascribe enough weight to intentional decision making and its impact on career progression versus the serendipitous circumstances that people often encounter. We also dive deeper into how to find comfort in an uncertain world where on any given day…”AI is coming for your job”. *** This episode was recorded on 8 April 2026. Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
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#139 - Assadi Youssef (IBM): The Art of Ethical Hacking & Protecting Australia's Biggest Companies From Cyber Threa

In this week’s episode of Sweat Capital, we sit down with former ethical hacker Assadi Youssef to unpack his journey to becoming the point man for many of Australia’s leading companies on the latest advancements in enterprise grade cybersecurity products. We unpack: - Assadi’s innate curiosity and how this contributed to his interest in the digital world - How he become a professional penetration tester/ethical hacker, hired by many of Australia’s leading organisations to test the strength to their cybersecurity infrastructure - Why hacking is as much social engineering as it is coding expertise - His role today as the trusted advisor to many of Australia’s leading companies, presenting them with access to IBM’s suite of products and services *** This episode was recorded on 30 March 2026. Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 1 week
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40:15

#138 - Trent Blacket (EMT Partners): The Aussie Lawyer Building Global Talent & Media Businesses

In this episode of Sweat Capital, we sit down with Trent Blackett, founder of EMT Partners, to unpack how a legal career can evolve far beyond traditional advisory work – into venture building, global talent, and capital.  Trent began his career as a lawyer, but early on carved out a niche in media and entertainment – a space where relationships, judgment, and commercial instinct matter just as much as black-letter law. We explore how that niche developed, the sacrifices involved in building global exposure, and the landmark moments that helped put him on the map.  A major focus of the episode is Centr.com, the consumer wellness platform Trent co-founded alongside Chris Hemsworth and Chris Hadley – including the original investment thesis, scaling the business, and its eventual sale to the Bezos family. Trent shares what that experience taught him about brand, capital, and building real businesses alongside high-profile talent.  We also dive into the evolution of EMT Partners from a legal advisory into a broader venture and talent platform, the rise of personal brands as scalable businesses, and why the old media model is being disrupted.  For anyone interested in law, entrepreneurship, media, or how to use 'traditional' skills to carve non-traditional pathways, this episode is a practical look at turning expertise into ownership.  *** This episode was recorded on 29 January 2026. Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 2 weeks
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#137 - Dr. Stephanie Allen: From Solving Bus Timetables to Advising Global Healthcare Giants

In this episode of Sweat Capital, we sit down with Dr. Stephanie Allen, Senior Partner at Kearney and CEO of Jumpstart Fertility, to unpack how seemingly “academic” and consulting-heavy career paths can turn out to be some of the most practical training grounds for real-world problem solving.  Steph began her career with a PhD in Philosophy at University of Oxford, developing deep skills in logic, reasoning, and structured thinking. One of her earliest professional problems? Optimising bus timetables for a UK town. That same skillset would later be applied to advising governments and some of the world’s largest healthcare organisations on complex, high-stakes decisions.  We explore how consulting — particularly in government and healthcare — trains you to break down ambiguous problems, balance competing incentives, and make decisions with imperfect information. Steph shares what it really takes to build credibility in consulting, the sacrifices involved in progressing to global leadership roles, and what differentiates truly high-performing advisory firms.  The conversation also looks forward: the future of consulting in an AI-enabled world, why judgment still matters more than answers, and what ultimately led Steph to step out of advisory roles and into the CEO seat at an emerging Australian healthtech business.  If you’re weighing academia, consulting, or leadership roles — or trying to understand which skills actually compound over time — this episode is a powerful reminder that learning how to think often matters more than learning what to think. *** This episode was recorded on 3 February 2026. Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 3 weeks
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#136 - Eduardo Gama: Brazilian Mining Engineer Turned Global Financier

In this final episode of our 2026 Future Minerals Forum series of interviews, we touch base with Eduardo Gama who provides us with an overview of life working in Brazil and the global mining industry. Eduardo has grown a contingent of over 20,000 Instagram followers! Giving his audience tangible BTS insights into the mining sector. A great way to round out our pods from Saudi Arabia. A massive thank you to the whole FMF team for their support. *** This episode was recorded on 14 January 2026 at the Future Minerals Forum in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. For more information, visit ⁠futuremineralsforum.com⁠ Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 1 month
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#135 - Roger Baxter: The Reality of Building a Palladium Mine in South Africa

In this episode of Sweat Capital, we sit down with Roger Baxter, Executive Chairman of Southern Palladium, to unpack the leap from mining policy and industry advocacy into the far harder world of project execution.  Roger spent years at the centre of South Africa’s mining ecosystem, including as CEO of the Minerals Council South Africa, where he negotiated with government, shaped policy, and represented an entire industry. Today, he’s on the other side of the table – financing, permitting, and advancing Bengwenyama, one of the world’s most significant undeveloped platinum-group metals projects.  We explore what truly differentiates Bengwenyama as a long-life, low-cost PGM asset; why mine life and cost position matter more than ever in attracting capital; and why high-quality projects can still trade at a deep discount in public markets. Roger explains how jurisdictional credibility, permitting certainty, and community relationships directly influence cost of capital – and where investors often misprice South African risk.  For investors, operators, and young professionals weighing careers across policy, finance, or operations, this episode offers a rare perspective on how credibility is built before cash flow – and why execution matters more than narrative. *** This episode was recorded on 15 January 2026 at the Future Minerals Forum in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. For more information, visit futuremineralsforum.com Follow us on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 1 month
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#133 - Alex Currie (Law Firm Partner, Baker Botts): From London to Moscow to Riyadh – A Career in Global Project F

In this episode of Sweat Capital, we sit down with Alex Currie, a project finance lawyer who has spent three decades advising on some of the world’s largest and most complex energy and infrastructure projects.  Alex has worked across London, Moscow, Dubai, Sydney, and Riyadh, advising sponsors, lenders, and governments on projects involving billions of dollars, geopolitical risk, and long-dated capital commitments. Early in the conversation, he shares a story that captures the stakes of this work – being detained at a Russian airport during a live deal, and getting out by calling a former client: a major Russian gas company he’d previously advised.  We unpack what actually makes a project bankable, where large infrastructure projects most often fail, and why trust, credibility, and judgment matter just as much as technical modelling. Alex explains how lenders and sponsors think differently about risk, what goes wrong before projects end up distressed, and how restructurings either preserve (or destroy) value.  The discussion also spans geopolitics, the energy transition, and Alex’s current perspective from Saudi Arabia, where scale, speed, and ambition in project development look very different to Europe or Australia.  For lawyers, financiers, or anyone interested in global infrastructure and energy, this episode is a rare look at how careers are built in high-pressure environments where mistakes are measured in billions – and decisions really matter. *** This episode was recorded on 15 January 2026 at the Future Minerals Forum in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. For more information, visit futuremineralsforum.com Follow us on ⁠Instagram⁠ & ⁠LinkedIn⁠. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 1 month
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#133 - Lulu Ghattas (Kinso): Building a Personal Brand & Scaling a Startup Through Viral Distribution

In this episode of Sweat Capital, we sit down with Lulu Ghattas, the person helping power the marketing machine behind one of Sydney’s fastest-growing startups, Kinso. Lulu’s career arc is anything but traditional. Before YouthForce and Kinso, she stacked early reps in elite rooms – Moët Hennessy campaigns, startup ecosystems like Startmate and Blackbird’s Giants program - learning how world-class brands think about attention, distribution, andpositioning. At Kinso, she plays a central role in building a marketing engine that has gone genuinely viral among young Australians. We unpack what most companies misunderstand about social, why distribution is everything, and how internet-native tone beats over-polished corporate messaging. We also dive deep into:  How to build a personal brand while still at university Where personal brand ends and company brand begins What makes a great cold outreach Why early-career reps inside elite ecosystems compound This episode is a masterclass in attention, leverage, and building in public –  and a blueprint for young professionals who want to create opportunity instead of waiting for it. *** This episode was recorded on 4 February 2026. Follow us on Instagram & LinkedIn. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 1 month
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#132 - Graham Kerr (South32): Building a Mining Career Without a Mining Degree

In this episode of Sweat Capital, we sit down with Graham Kerr, former CEO of South32, for a rare, career-focused look at leadership, capital allocation, and what it actually takes to succeed in mining.  Graham’s path defies the stereotype. He didn’t study mining engineering — instead, he began with business, finance, and information systems before joining BHP as a graduate. By going all-in on learning, pushing beyond head-office finance roles, and taking on operational responsibility early, he progressed from analyst to CFO to CEO.  We unpack his time at BHP, including what working inside one of the world’s largest resource companies taught him about capital allocation, scale, and optionality. Graham shares how moving into site-based and operational roles reshaped his leadership style — and why leaving the “safe path” at key moments proved critical to long-term growth.  A major focus of the conversation is the BHP–South32 demerger and what it takes to build a company from day one. Graham reflects on creating culture from scratch, leading assets others didn’t want, making hard portfolio decisions, and why discipline — not size — defined South32’s strategy over the next decade.  If you’re interested in leadership, mining, or how real careers are built inside complex organisations, this episode is a masterclass in learning fast, owning responsibility, and playing the long game.  ***This episode was recorded on 14 January 2026 at the Future Minerals Forum in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. For more information, visit futuremineralsforum.com Follow us on Instagram & LinkedIn. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 2 months
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#131 - Sweat Capital January Recap: Saudi Arabia, London, Dubai & Moving to Sydney

It's been a big start to 2026 at Sweat Capital, and there's a lot to catch up on.  In this monthly recap, Charlie, Will, and Dimitri discuss: Charlie & Will’s experience attending the Future Minerals Forum in Saudi Arabia  The reality of locking in interviews at one of the biggest conferences in the world What it’s really like to work and live in the Middle East and the incredible opportunities that exist Interviewing Darren Lockyer and Grant Wechsel ahead of the London Broncos season opener in the UK  The appeal of investing in sport  Riding quad bikes in the sand dunes in Dubai Favourite lessons we’ve learned from guests  The boys moving from Brissy to Sydney Will’s exciting new career update  Check out Goldman Sachs' series on Investing in Sports. We hope you enjoy and thank you so much to everyone for all of your support!  We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game. *** Follow us on Instagram & LinkedIn.
Business and industry 2 months
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#130 - Armina Rosenberg (Minotaur Capital): How Technology Is Changing Stock Picking

In this episode of Sweat Capital, we sit down with Armina Rosenberg, Co-Founder and Portfolio Manager at Minotaur Capital, to unpack how she actually finds investment ideas across every major market in the world.  We trace Armina’s path from equity research at J.P. Morgan, through the family office world, to running global equities portfolios — and why covering the entire universe of listed companies forces you to think very differently about process, diversification, and speed.  A major focus of the conversation is Taurient, the proprietary software Minotaur built in-house to screen, analyse, and compare companies globally. Powered by Python and AI, Taurient allows the team to translate overseas annual reports and transcripts, scan thousands of companies across markets, and surface opportunities most investors will never see.  We also discuss:  The trade-offs between institutional investing, family offices, and running your own fund  How technology changes portfolio construction and risk management  Why global diversification matters more than ever  What Armina looks for when hiring analysts in a tech-enabled investment team  If you’re interested in global equities, active management, or how modern fund managers actually build an edge, this episode is a masterclass in process over prediction.  *** This episode was recorded on 3 February 2026. Follow Sweat Capital on Instagram & LinkedIn.
Business and industry 2 months
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#129 - Why Hatch’s Vice Chair Views This $110bn Moment As One Of The Proudest Of His Career

Joe Lombard, Global Vice Chair at Hatch, joined us to chat fresh off the announcement of Hatch’s $110bn deal with Maaden. We unpack his journey and how Hatch is partnering with organisations all over the world to deliver positive change. We hope you enjoy!We'll see you in the next one,Keep playing the long game.***This episode was recorded at the 2026 Future Minerals Forum in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. For more information, visit futuremineralsforum.com Follow Sweat Capital on Instagram & LinkedIn
Business and industry 2 months
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#128 - Flavia Tata Nardini: The $800m Adelaide Start-Up Landing On The Moon | Fleet Space Technologies

Flavia Tata Nardini always wanted to be an astronaut. Instead, she built one of the most advanced space-tech companies in the world. In this episode, we sit down with the Co-Founder and CEO of Fleet Space Technologies to unpack how she built an $800 million space company from almost nothing – surviving near-bankruptcy, delayed launches, and raising capital under extreme pressure. We explore the early days of building satellites by hand, convincing Rocket Lab’s Peter Beck to launch Fleet’s first hardware for $100, and turning deep scientific ambition into real customers like Rio Tinto and Ma’aden. We also discuss a major milestone ahead – in August, Fleet will launch the first ever Australian-built hardware into space, marking a defining moment for Australia’s space industry and for the company’s next phase of growth. We hope you enjoy! We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game. *** This episode was recorded at the 2026 Future Minerals Forum in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. For more information, visit futuremineralsforum.com Follow Sweat Capital on Instagram & LinkedIn.
Business and industry 2 months
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#127 - Investing In Sport: Rugby League In London? Darren Lockyer & Grant Wechsel On Buying The London Broncos

Recorded just prior to the club’s Rd 1 clash, we get privileged insight into: Why Darren and Grant have conviction on London as a place for Rugby League How the opportunity to buy the team, previously owned by the likes of Richard Branson and U.K. multimillionaire David Hughes, came across their desk Why Darren and Grant believe that success from this investment will see a dominant London Broncos on and off the field We hope you enjoy! Follow Sweat Capital on Instagram & LinkedIn. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 2 months
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#126 - Rob Adamson (RFC Ambrian): Why Most Mining Tech Fails (The Blueprint for Turning Science Into Scale)

This episode was recorded OnAir @ IMARC. For more information on the world's biggest mining conference and how to get involved, visit ⁠⁠⁠imarcglobal.com⁠⁠⁠. In this episode of Sweat Capital, we’re joined by Rob Adamson, Executive Chairman at RFC Ambrian, for a wide-ranging conversation across mining, deep tech, and career-building. Rob takes us back to his first job as a 16-year-old on a diamond drill rig in Central Western Australia – and how brutal summers in the mines became the motivation to study engineering, fund uni through holiday shifts, and eventually take a leap overseas to deep-level underground gold mining in South Africa at the back end of apartheid. From there, we unpack how Rob found his way into advisory, why RFC’s model is different to “spray and pray” venture capital, and how a disciplined venture-building approach helped bring game-changing technologies to market –including Chrysos (a modern alternative to fire assay), NextOre (MRI-style sensing for real-time ore grade detection), and MRead, where detection technology can identify landmines by sensing explosive compounds. We finish with Rob’s practical advice for young professionals: build your skillset, build your network, and most importantly – build your own brand. Follow Sweat Capital on Instagram & LinkedIn. We’ll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 3 months
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48:00

#125 - Anthony Brown (CEO, NobleOak): Why Your Career Is a Portfolio, Not a Ladder

In this episode of Sweat Capital, we sit down with Anthony Brown, CEO of ASX-listed life insurer NobleOak, to unpack a way of thinking about careers that challenges the advice most of us young professionals are given.  Anthony isn’t your typical CEO. After starting his career in the Audit team at KPMG in Sydney, he deliberately stepped off the conventional ladder. Rather than chasing a single linear progression, he moved across industries, roles, and functions – intentionally building what he describes as a career portfolio: a collection of experiences, skills, and calculated risks that compound over time.  Anthony shares how embracing uncertainty, lateral moves, and even short-term discomfort helped shape his leadership perspective and ultimately positioned him to lead a publicly listed company.  A company which just so happens to be the very first IPO that Barrenjoey ever brought to market...  For anyone who has ever felt anxious about not “keeping up,” questioned whether you’re on the right path, or worried that a non-linear move might set you back, this episode is for you.  *** Follow Sweat Capital on LinkedIn & Instagram. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 3 months
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#124 – Brad Pulford (VP & Managing Director ANZ, HP): How To Build a Career Inside a Global Tech Giant & T

In this episode of Sweat Capital, we sit down with Brad Pulford, Managing Director of HP Australia, to unpack what’s really happening to the way Australians work - and why so many people feel disengaged, burnt out, or disconnected from their jobs.  Brad draws on insights from HP’s Work Relationship Index, which shows that only a small minority of knowledge workers globally have a healthy relationship with work. We explore what’s driving that breakdown, how Australia compares to other regions, and why flexibility, autonomy, and meaning now matter more than traditional career incentives.  We also trace Brad’s own career journey - from working across Africa and emerging markets to leading a major global technology business in Australia - and discuss what he’s learned about leadership, building teams, and progressing inside large corporates without getting stuck or complacent.  The conversation goes deeper into the impact of AI and technology on careers, what work might look like over the next decade, and how young professionals can think more deliberately about the roles, environments, and organisations they choose to invest their time in.  If you’re early in your career, navigating corporate life, or trying to understand how work is changing - this episode offers a data-driven, practical perspective on how to build a career that actually works for you, not just one that looks good on paper.  *** Follow Sweat Capital on Instagram & LinkedIn We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 3 months
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#123 – Mitch Hughes (Founder, NextGen Ventures): How Do You Raise $2M With No Track Record?

In this episode of Sweat Capital, we sit down with Mitch Hughes, founder of NextGen Ventures, for a real look at what it takes to raise a first-time fund – when you don’t have the “standard” VC network or track record behind you.  Mitch breaks down how NextGen closed ~$2m in its first close (targeting $2.5m), what the fundraising process actually looked like, and why cold outreach was a huge part of getting momentum early. He explains the strategy they used to build credibility before writing a single cheque: setting up a national student scout network, meeting hundreds of startups, writing memos, and building proof points by showing which companies went on to raise from other investors.  We also dig into the engine of NextGen: a student VC model across six universities, designed to find ambitious founders from “underground” campus communities - the people who won’t show up through the usual top-down channels. Mitch shares what he looks for in young founders (speed, rate of learning, customer obsession, ambition), why “first-time founder” can be a misleading label, and how the falling cost of building with AI changes the entire startup curve.  This episode is for anyone thinking about venture, fundraising, building a fund, or building a company - and for students wondering what the next decade of careers might actually look like.  Follow Sweat Capital on Instagram & LinkedIn. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 3 months
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#122 – Mark Kristoff: From the Mailroom to CEO of Traxys (OnAir @ IMARC)

This episode was recorded OnAir @ IMARC. For more information on the world's biggest mining conference and how to get involved, visit ⁠⁠imarcglobal.com⁠⁠. In this episode of Sweat Capital, we sit down with Mark Kristoff, CEO of global commodities trading firm Traxys, to unpack how careers in physical commodities trading are built.  Mark takes us back to his earliest jobs, running lawn-mowing and painting businesses as a teenager, learning early what it meant to be responsible for outcomes, cash flow, and customers. He walks through attending Cornell on a Navy ROTC scholarship, preparing for a career as a fighter pilot, and the abrupt pivot that forced him to rethink his future.  We then dive into how Mark entered the commodities world through a job in the mailroom, why reading the shipping documents he was delivering on the subway mattered, and how understanding learnings from these moments of curiosity led to him making an ascension to lead Traxys as CEO.  For anyone curious about commodities, trading, or how senior careers are built over decades - no shortcuts - this episode offers a rare, practical look inside an industry most people never see.  Follow Sweat Capital on LinkedIn & Instagram. We'll see you in the next one, Keep playing the long game.
Business and industry 3 months
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