The Installation Art Podcast

I made a 3-minute listener survey to help shape the podcast's future. Your feedback genuinely matters. Fill out here: https://forms.gle/qqHJrMXpsC9UYu2m7 Leave a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast Buy me a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/installationartpodcast Donna Dennis is one of the contemporary art pioneers who pushed sculpture toward the domain of architecture in the early 1970s. Her complex sculptural installations draw from overlooked fragments of American vernacular architecture. This conversation dives into five decades of art-making in New York's evolving art world. We discuss how she taught herself carpentry, pipe bending and electrical work to build pieces based on her body's scale. How Virginia Woolf's "Shakespeare's sister" gave her the drive to make work even if no one ever saw it. How feminism shaped her False Front Hotels as self-portraits when she decided "women's lives were worthy of study." And why she refuses to use the word "practice" to describe her work. Donna's work is held in collections including the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Brooklyn Museum, the Walker Art Center, and the Smithsonian American Art Museum. Key moments from this episode: • From failing at abstract painting in Paris to her first steps toward installation • SoHo in the 1970s: how big raw loft spaces made it possible for artists to think big The Holly Solomon Gallery story: from studio visit ("we're buying a country house") to "I'm starting a gallery and I want you to be in it"—then Whitney Biennial within two years Venice Biennale 1982: realizing in April the show is in June, not 1984—quit your job, six assistants, work doubling in size • A car roll into the river in slow motion, with Donna’s belongings inside – and how that inspired a public artwork that also suffered a tragic end • ”A woman made this!?" The comment that captures why size mattered Donna Dennis is based in Germantown, New York. You can learn more about her work and subscribe to her newsletter on her website: https://www.donnadennisart.com And follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/donnadennisstudio 03:00 Hudson Valley Roots 04:07 Rapid Fire Warmup 05:06 Virginia Woolf Feminist Purpose 07:28 Night Studio Rituals 09:40 Early Art Calling 12:36 From Painting to Installations 47:28 Storage Risks 49:58 Hidden Vistas 51:19 Meaning And Mystery 54:34 Audience Boundaries 57:09 Vandalism Tale 01:04:01 Funding Choices and Final Reflections Books mentioned: Writing Toward Dawn: Journals 1969-1982: https://www.donnadennisart.com/publications/writing-toward-dawn Donna Dennis: A Poet in Three Dimensions: https://www.donnadennisart.com/publications/donna-dennis-poet-in-three-dimensions Also mentioned in this episode: Petah Coyne: https://www.petahcoyne.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/petahcoyne/ Episode with Petah Coyne: https://installationartpodcast.com/petah-coyne-032 Robert Fulton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fulton Virginia Woolf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Room_of_One's_Own Gustave Doré: https://www.wikiart.org/en/gustave-dore Ben Shahn “The Shape of Content”: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/284780.The_Shape_of_Content Art Students League: https://www.artstudentsleague.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/aslnyc/ | @ArtStudentsLeagueNY Martha Diamond: https://marthadiamondtrust.org/ | Carleton College: https://www.carleton.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/carletoncollege | @CarletonCollege Claes Oldenburg: https://www.wikiart.org/en/claes-oldenburg Jane Bowles “Two Serious Ladies”: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/215262.Two_Serious_Ladies Deafman Glance by Robert Wilson: https://robertwilson.com/deafman-glance History of Art by Horst Waldemar Janson: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/2693801-history-of-art Peter Schjeldahl: https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/peter-schjeldahl The New Yorker: https://www.newyorker.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/newyorkermag/ | @newyorker The Poetry Project: https://www.poetryproject.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/poetry_project | @ThePoetryProject Holly Solomon: https://bonhams.shorthandstories.com/the-collection-of-holly-solomon/ Andy Warhol: https://www.wikiart.org/en/andy-warhol Denise Green: https://www.denisegreen.net/ | Judy Pfaff: https://www.judypfaffstudio.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/judy.pfaff/ Whitney Biennial: https://whitney.org/exhibitions/the-biennial | https://www.instagram.com/whitneymuseum/ | @whitney_museum Venice Biennale: https://www.labiennale.org/en | https://www.instagram.com/labiennale/ | @BiennaleChannel O’Flaherty’s: https://www.donnadennisart.com/exhibitions/houses-and-hotels | https://www.instagram.com/oflahertys.nyc/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/

I made a 3-minute listener survey to help shape the podcast's future. Your feedback genuinely matters. Fill out here: https://forms.gle/qqHJrMXpsC9UYu2m7 Leave a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast A candid review of the 25th Biennale of Sydney, spanning five venues across Greater Sydney: from a regional gallery that got everything right to an old Power Station full of missed opportunities. I spent 10 hours at the media preview visiting all five venues: Lewers Penrith Regional Gallery, Chau Chak Wing Museum, Campbelltown Arts Centre, Art Gallery of New South Wales and White Bay Power Station. This isn't a comprehensive report, it’s my personal takeaway on what works (and what fails) when it comes to installation art at an international exhibition. The 25th Biennale of Sydney, titled Rememory and curated by Hoor Al-Qasimi, demonstrates something that's come up again and again on this podcast: you can have prestigious artists, important topics and historic venues, but if the lighting is wrong, if there's nowhere to sit, if the space outshines the art… it doesn't work. What I cover: • Why Lewers: Penrith Regional Gallery was the standout venue • Some highlighted works from each venue • The 11-minute sound installation no one experiences beyond 15 seconds – and other accessibility challenges • Documentation vs art – where is the line? • A moment of comparison: do island Biennales create better experiences? 00:32 Biennale of Sydney Facts 02:57 Penrith Gallery Highlight 05:32 Everyone’s Favorite Installation 08:06 Chau Chak Wing Museum 10:31 Campbelltown Art Centre - Documentary Debate 13:21 Art Gallery of NSW Picks 17:12 White Bay Venue Challenges 22:26 Video Overload Critique 26:32 Installation Missteps 32:48 Final Takeaways Biennale of Sydney 2026: Rememory is on view until 14 June 2026, free entry More info: https://www.biennaleofsydney.art/ Review by art critic Christopher Allen: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/culture/worse-than-anticipated-how-the-sydney-biennale-became-a-site-of-mediocrity-and-irrelevance/news-story/efd37fe54c91806748fd89fda76f65f6 Also mentioned in this episode: Biennale of Sydney: https://www.biennaleofsydney.art/ | https://www.instagram.com/biennalesydney/ | @biennaleofsydney Venice Biennale episode: https://installationartpodcast.com/bonus-013 Helsinki Biennial episode: https://installationartpodcast.com/bonus-039 Lewers: Pentrith Regional Art Gallery: https://www.penrithregionalgallery.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/penrithregionalgallery/ Nora Adwan: https://noraadwan.com/home.html | https://www.instagram.com/adwan.nora/ Chau Chak Wing Museum: https://www.sydney.edu.au/museum/ | https://www.instagram.com/ccwm_sydney/ Michael Dagostino: https://www.sydney.edu.au/museum/about-us/our-people.html Ema Shin: https://emashin.org/home.html | https://www.instagram.com/ema.shin/ Tuan Andrew Nguyen: https://www.tuanandrewnguyen.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/tuan.andrew.nguyen/ Cambelltown Arts Centre: https://www.campbelltownartscentre.com.au/Home | https://www.instagram.com/campbelltownartscentre/ | @campbelltownartscentre8258 Hoor Al-Qasimi: https://www.biennaleofsydney.art/hoor-al-qasimi/ | https://www.instagram.com/hooralq/ Joana Hadjithomas & Khalil Joreige: https://hadjithomasjoreige.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/studiohadjithomasjoreige/ Art Gallery of NSW: https://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/ Kuba Dorabialski: https://www.kubadorabialski.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/kubadora/ Mia Wasikowska: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1985859/ | https://www.instagram.com/mia_wasikowska_/ Taysir Batniji: https://www.taysirbatniji.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/taysir_batniji/ Kapwani Kiwanga: https://www.kapwanikiwanga.org/ Ron Mueck: https://ropac.net/artists/63-ron-mueck/ | https://www.instagram.com/ronmueckart/ Mike Hewson: https://mikehewson.co.nz/ | https://www.instagram.com/mikehewson/ MCA: https://www.mca.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/mca_australia | @mcaaustralia White Bay Power Station: https://www.whitebaypowerstation.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/whitebaypowerstation/ Christopher Allen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Allen_(critic) Cockatoo Island: https://www.cockatooisland.gov.au/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/harbourtrust/ | @HarbourTrust2088 Frank Sweeney: https://franksweeney.art/ | https://www.instagram.com/frankbeee/ Hui Ye: https://yehui.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/huiyeist/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/

Listener feedback form: https://forms.gle/T6ywdFawXWKLu1UR6 Leave a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast A conversation with New Zealand artist Mike Hewson, recorded inside his monumental installation The Key's Under the Mat at the Art Gallery of New South Wales – a 2,500 square meter underground park complete with working sauna, laundromat, barbecues, DJ booth, recording studio and playground that's broken every visitor record the gallery has ever seen. Mike's practice straddles the complex lines between art, infrastructure and public liability. He designs playgrounds that councils don't know how to regulate, builds permanent public sculptures that must survive Australian weather conditions and human interference and he takes on legal exposure that would terrify most artists, all while fighting the perception that making functional, interactive work is somehow "beneath" serious art. Key insights from this episode: • The Christchurch earthquake moment: barefoot in a broken city, wondering whether he should keep pursuing art • Project backlash: dealing with public anger, going into debt on his first major commission and lessons learned • Strategic pivot: setting a new precedent as an artist-engineer • True scope of the AGNSW project and how he sourced materials for it • Hard truth and advice: burnout is not a sustainable business model Mike Hewson is a New Zealand artist based in Sydney. You can find out more about his work on his website https://mikehewson.co.nz/ and follow him on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehewson See his work in person: The Key's Under the Mat at AGNSW Tank (open until August 2026) https://mikehewson.co.nz/2025/10/the-keys-under-the-mat Coal Loader Palm Grove is a permanent public installation at Sydney Fish Markets: https://mikehewson.co.nz/2026/1/coal-loader-palm-grove Rocks on Wheels public art playground in Soutbank, Naarm (Melbourne): https://mikehewson.co.nz/2022/11/rocks-on-wheels Pockets Park in Pioneers Memorial Park, Leichhardt NSW: https://mikehewson.co.nz/2022/2/pockets-park St Peters Fences at Simpson Park, St Peters NSW: https://mikehewson.co.nz/2020/9/st-peters-fences Illawarra Placed Landscape at Crown Street Mall, Wollongong NSW: https://mikehewson.co.nz/2017/11/illawarra-placed-landscape 02:55 Work Life Balance Reality 05:35 Growing Up in Rural NZ 08:02 From Painting to Installations 19:40 Building Playgrounds as Art 27:37 Precarious Look Safe Design 32:32 Sourcing Found Materials 40:33 Maintenance and Record Crowds 45:41 Afterlife and Financial Reality 58:51 Geopets Art Fair Hack 01:07:17 Contracts, Insurance and Codes 01:20:51 Hard Truths And Advice 01:25:51 After The Mammoth Show Also mentioned in this episode: Christchurch earthquake: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Christchurch_earthquake JR: https://www.jr-art.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/jr/ Columbia University: https://www.columbia.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/columbia/ | @columbia Sarah Sze: https://www.sarahsze.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/sarahszestudio Lloyd’s: https://www.lloyds.com/australia | https://www.instagram.com/lloydsoflondon/ | @Lloydsinsurance Infrastructure NSW: https://www.infrastructure.nsw.gov.au/ | Gumtree: https://www.gumtree.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/gumtreeaus | @gumtreeaustralia Lett Thomas Gallery: https://lett-thomas.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/michaellett | https://www.instagram.com/lettthomasgallery Rirkrit Tiravanija: https://www.davidzwirner.com/artists/rirkrit-tiravanija | https://www.instagram.com/rirkrit_team Sydney Fish Market: https://www.sydneyfishmarket.com.au/ Images courtesy of the artist and Art Gallery of NSW The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/

I made a 3-minute listener survey to help shape the podcast's future. What's working? What's not? Who should I interview next? Your feedback genuinely matters. Fill out here: https://forms.gle/qqHJrMXpsC9UYu2m7 Get 15% off your .art domain name: https://get.art/?refdotart=art5044n9z17m promo code: ART5044N9Z17M A conversation with Dutch artist Tanja Smeets, whose site-specific installations employ diverse and industrial materials (concrete spacers, leaf catchers, textiles, ceramics and 3D-printed steel) to create large scale works that appear to grow organically from architecture and cityscapes. Guided by her catchphrase “Under the pavement the roots are whirling,” Tanja's practice reveals what it takes to work at the intersection of art, craft, technology and collaboration. Key insights from this episode: • Why art school felt like failure • Finding and transforming unusual materials • Residencies at TextielLab and European Ceramic Work Center: pushing porcelain through frying sieves, learning embroidery and more • The volcano eruption: teaching an assistant to knot lentils into lycra via Zoom when flights were grounded • Miami airport interrogation: five suitcases, a letter and threatening border patrol agents with a lecture on art Tanja Smeets is a Dutch artist based in Utrecht. Her work has been exhibited internationally including Manifesta and Museum Boijmans van Beuningen. See her work in person at Westerpark, Amsterdam (permanent public sculpture) and Centraal Museum, Utrecht (permanent installation in historic staircase). 03:24 Favorite Quote – Under the Pavement the Roots Are Whirling 09:35 The Iceland Trip That Changed Everything 15:49 From Painting to Installation – When Everything Clicked 20:10 A Government Building Commission – Dripping Through Multiple Floors 22:50 How the Opportunities Started Coming 29:24 TextielLab – Combining Felt with Leaf Catchers 33:09 European Ceramic Work Center Residency 47:47 When the White Cube Doesn’t Work 48:52 Manifesta Barcelona – Installing on 5th-Century Graves 51:17 Building Solo vs Working with Teams 56:33 The Commercial Question – “I’m Always Disappearing into Big Installations” 01:02:10 Miami Airport – Five Suitcases and the Threat of a Lecture 01:06:56 MX3D Collaboration – 3D-Printed Stainless Steel 01:11:43 Finding Technical Collaborators and Pushing Boundaries 01:17:09 Dream Project 01:20:00 Advice for Emerging Artists Opening of solo exhibition and launch of new publication and film about Tanja’s work: 11 April 2026 at the Utrecht in Leeuwarden. The book can be ordered via studiotanjasmeets@gmail.com You can find out more about her work at https://www.tanjasmeets.nl/ and follow her on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/studiotanjasmeets/ Also mentioned in this episode: Dyckman Farmhouse Museum: https://dyckmanfarmhouse.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/dyckmanfarmhouse | @dyckmanfarmhousemuseum8502 Museum Boijmans van Beuningen: https://www.boijmans.nl/en | https://www.instagram.com/boijmans/ TextielMuseum: https://textielmuseum.nl/en | https://www.instagram.com/textielmuseum/ TextielLab: https://textiellab.nl/en European Ceramic Work Centre: https://ekwc.nl/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/ekwc_oisterwijk/ @sundaymorningekwc6951 David Lynch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lynch Eraserhead: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074486/ Blue Velvet: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090756/ Kunsthal KAdE: https://www.kunsthalkade.nl/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/kunsthal_kade_amersfoort | https://www.youtube.com/user/KUNSTHALKADE Manifesta: https://manifesta.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/manifestabiennial/ | @Manifesta_foundation Mondriaan Fund: https://www.mondriaanfonds.nl/en/homepage-2/ | https://www.instagram.com/mondriaanfonds/ Museum of Arts And Design: https://madmuseum.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/madmuseum | @madmuseum Museum Vizcaya: https://vizcaya.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/vizcaya_museum/ | @VizcayaMuseum Westerpark: https://www.iamsterdam.com/en/explore/neighbourhoods/westerpark | https://www.instagram.com/iamsterdam MX3D: https://mx3d.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/mx3d.metal.printing/ | @officialMX3D Centraal Museum Utrecht: https://www.centraalmuseum.nl/en | https://www.instagram.com/centraalmuseum The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ Mentioned in this episode: Get your .art domain name https://get.art/?refdotart=art5044n9z17m promo code: ART5044N9Z17M

Take the listener survey: https://forms.gle/r2EN8w9C7wisUxJe7 Help shape the future of the podcast! Your feedback matters. A bonus solo episode about my last minute art trip to Helsinki: what I saw at Helsinki Biennale on Vallisaari island, three must-visit museums (Kiasma, Amos Rex, HAM), and why sometimes the best art experiences require a little effort to reach. Last August, I hopped a ferry from Estonia to catch the closing days of Helsinki Biennale. In a day and a half, I discovered why island biennales create magic, why Nordic countries do art infrastructure better and what Australia can learn from Finland's approach to supporting artists and making contemporary art accessible to everyone. This isn't a comprehensive review, it’s my honest impressions, favorite discoveries and a few rants. What I cover in this episode: • Why the ferry journey to Vallisaari island matters (hello, Cockatoo Island nostalgia) • The challenge of installing art outdoors: scale, setting and competing with historic buildings • Standout works: Sara Bjärland's bronze "inflatable" sculptures, Tania Candiani's immersive bunker installation, Ana Teresa Barboza's woven bark forest • Three essential Helsinki museums: Kiasma (timeless favorite), Amos Rex (new obsession), HAM (Biennale HQ) • Gushing about Helsinki Central Library (Oodi): free recording studios, 3D printing, instrument hire – everything Sydney libraries lack… • Free museum days and artist benefits: how my Australian NAVA card got me free entry in Finland (but not in Sydney... explain that) 00:00 Why I Went To Helsinki Biennale 01:20 Getting to Vallisaari 03:31 Island Setting and Challenges 07:06 Scent Art Surprise 08:46 Standout Works 13:14 Lesson About Rushing 15:28 Rainy Day Museum Crawl: Kiasma 16:32 Amos Rex and HAM 21:44 Finland Artist Perks 23:37 Wrap Up and Listener Poll Resources: Listener survey - help shape this podcast! https://forms.gle/r2EN8w9C7wisUxJe7 Send a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast Write an email: https://installationartpodcast.com/contact Also mentioned in this episode: Helsinki Biennale: https://helsinkibiennaali.fi/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/helsinkibiennial/ Vallisaari: https://vallisaari.fi/en_US | https://www.instagram.com/vallisaari.fi Biennale of Sydney: https://www.biennaleofsydney.art/ | https://www.instagram.com/biennalesydney/ | @biennaleofsydney Cockatoo Island: https://www.cockatooisland.gov.au/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/harbourtrust/ | @HarbourTrust2088 Olafur Eliasson: https://olafureliasson.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/studioolafureliasson/ Raimo Saarinen: https://www.raimosaarinen.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/raimosaarinen/ Sara Bjarland: https://sarabjarland.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/sbjarland/ Tania Candiani: https://taniacandiani.com/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/tcandiani/ Ana Teresa Barboza: https://www.anateresabarboza.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/anateresa.barbozagubo/ Nabbteeri: https://www.nabbteeri.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/maria_birkhuhn/ | https://www.instagram.com/nabbage/ Kiasma: https://kiasma.fi/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/kiasmamuseum Amos Rex: https://amosrex.fi/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/amoskonst/ Anna Estarriola: https://www.annaestarriola.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/annaestarriola/ HAM: https://www.hamhelsinki.fi/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/hamhelsinki/ Oodi: https://oodihelsinki.fi/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/oodihelsinki/ NAVA: https://visualarts.net.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/nava_visualarts/

Get up to 40% off your Hostinger plan: https://hostinger.com?REFERRALCODE=INSTALLATIONART A philosophical conversation with Berlin-based artist Monika Grzymala, whose spatial drawings transform architecture with nothing but kilometers of black tape, intuition and intense physical labor. Monika's practice is deceptively simple: she works alone, without assistants, using adhesive tape to create immersive three-dimensional drawings that respond to each unique space. But beneath that simplicity we discuss profound questions about ephemerality, energy, presence and what remains when a work only exists for weeks before disappearing… From training as a stone sculptor to making her first site-specific drawing on ice at a Hamburg skating rink, from dumping all her figurative work after one transformative conversation with her professor to developing custom tape formulas with German manufacturers—Monika's journey reveals how radical simplicity can be the most powerful artistic choice. Key insights from this episode: • How one professor's comment changed everything • The longevity of tape installations: 2-3 months before they fall apart (and why that's intentional) • Documentation philosophy: why time-lapse videos don't capture the real process • Living inside an installation: the collector who surrounded herself with Monika's work • Advice for emerging artists: you don't need funding or large studios—just do it Monika Grzymala is a Polish artist based in Berlin. You can find out more about her work on her website: http://www.t-r-a-n-s-i-t.net/ and follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/monika.grzymala/ Monika’s publications: https://www.betterworldbooks.com/search/results?q=monika grzymala She is represented by Galerie CRONE: https://www.galeriecrone.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/galerie_crone/ BERG Contemporary: https://www.bergcontemporary.is/en | https://www.instagram.com/bergcontemporary/ SECCI Gallery: https://www.seccigallery.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/secci_gallery/ 03:20 Studio Rituals 03:48 Berlin Life And Process 05:44 Origins And Training 08:01 Finding The Line 13:25 Ephemeral Tape Philosophy 31:24 Hunting For The Perfect Tape 32:21 Liquid Drawing Mindset 36:14 Funding Ephemeral Installations 38:06 Energy, Memory And Reality 41:31 Logistics And Documentation 56:15 Advice For Young Artists Also mentioned in this episode: MoMA: https://www.moma.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/themuseumofmodernart | @themuseumofmodernart The Drawing Center: https://drawingcenter.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/drawingcenter/ Biennale of Sydney: https://www.biennaleofsydney.art/ | https://www.instagram.com/biennalesydney/ | @biennaleofsydney Tokyo Art Museum: https://www.tobikan.jp/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/tokyometropolitanartmuseum/ | @tokyometropolitanartmuseum7280 Louise Bourgeois: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Bourgeois | https://www.instagram.com/artistelouisebourgeois/ Documenta: https://documenta.de/en | https://www.instagram.com/documenta_official | @documenta_official Bogomir Ecker: https://www.artforum.com/events/bogomir-ecker-2-226647/ Olafur Eliasson: https://olafureliasson.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/studioolafureliasson/ Dian Woodner: https://patronview.com/patrons/dian-woodner Frac Lorraine: https://www.fraclorraine.org/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/fraclorraine/ | @49nord6est-fraclorraine Kunstlerhaus Dortmund: https://www.kh-do.de/ | https://www.instagram.com/kuenstlerinnenhaus_dortmund | @kunstlerhausdortmund2577 Kunstmuseum Basel: https://kunstmuseumbasel.ch/ | https://www.instagram.com/kunstmuseumbasel/ | @kumubasel The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/

Get 15% off your .art domain name: https://get.art/?refdotart=art5044n9z17m promo code: ART5044N9Z17M A refreshingly candid conversation with Carrie Scott: curator, art consultant, broadcaster and founder of Seen, a media platform connecting the art world to the real world. This is our most unfiltered episode yet, where we tackle topics that might "get us in trouble": what consultants actually charge, why artists should have elevator pitches (despite what famous curators say), whether museums should pay artists a percentage of ticket sales, and how galleries claim they'll "find you" while rejecting all submissions. Carrie's career spans working with major galleries in Seattle and New York, collaborating with Nick Knight for a decade, launching groundbreaking exhibitions and now building a consultancy that refuses to be motivated purely by commission. She is opinionated, pragmatic and genuinely invested in making the art world less intimidating and more transparent. Key insights from this episode: • The real numbers: what art consultants charge • Why Carrie is building an art consultancy that is not centered around transaction • The controversial debate: should artists have an elevator pitch? • What galleries mean when they say "don't contact us" (and should you ignore it)? • Creative health as the third pillar of wellness alongside physical and mental health • Practical advice for ambitious artists and where to find helpful resources Carrie Scott is a curator, art historian, consultant and broadcaster based in London. She is the founder of Seen, a media platform and consultancy dedicated to connecting the art world to the real world. You can find out more about her work at https://www.seen.art/ and follow her on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/carriescottcurates/ 00:34 Carrie's Favorite Quote 03:34 Background and Early Life 07:13 Journey into Art and Education 09:58 First Job and Early Career Challenges 21:26 Transition to Consulting and Launching Her Own Business 40:24 The Value of Installation Art 43:48 Challenges in Monetizing Installation Art 45:35 Artist-Museum Revenue Sharing 52:05 Curating and Supporting Artists 56:26 Advice for Emerging Artists 01:09:45 Dream Projects and Future Plans Also mentioned in this episode: Brothers And Keepers by John Edgar Wideman: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50891912-brothers-and-keepers Overherd oat milk: https://overherd.uk/ | https://www.instagram.com/overherd.uk The Wallace Collection: https://www.wallacecollection.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/wallacemuseum | @TheWallacecollection Jean-Honoré Fragonard: https://www.wikiart.org/en/jean-honore-fragonard Dickinson College: https://www.dickinson.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/dickinsoncollege | @dsoncollege Conde Nast: https://www.condenast.com/ University of Washington: https://www.washington.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/uofwa/ | @universityofwashington Seattle Magazine: https://seattlemag.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/seattlemag/ The Seattle Times: https://www.seattletimes.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/seattletimes/ Seattle University: https://www.seattleu.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/seattleu/ | @seattleuniversity The Stranger: https://www.thestranger.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/thestrangerseattle/ James Harris: https://jamesharrisgallery.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/jamesharrisgallery/ Rashid Johnson: https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/2830-rashid-johnson/ | https://www.instagram.com/rashidjohnson/ Nicole Klagsburn: https://www.nicoleklagsbrun.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/nicole_klagsbrun_inc/ Matt Day Jackson: https://www.hauserwirth.com/viewing-room/matthew-day-jackson/ https://www.instagram.com/matthewdayjackson/ Mika Rottenberg: https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/23390-mika-rottenberg/ | https://www.instagram.com/mikarottenberg/ Jimmy Moffat: https://www.instagram.com/jimmymoff/ Art + Commerce: https://artandcommerce.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/artandcommerce/ Annie Leibovitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Leibovitz | https://www.instagram.com/annieleibovitz/ Steven Meisel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Meisel | https://www.instagram.com/stevenmeiselofficial/ Nick Knight: https://www.nickknight.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/nick_knight/ 180 Studios: https://www.180studios.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/180.studios/ The Art Show on Sky Arts: https://www.carrie-scott.com/theartshoq | https://www.instagram.com/artshowtv/ | @theartshow791 Simonette Quamina: https://www.simonettequamina.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/simonette_quamina/ John Pawson: https://www.johnpawson.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/johnpawson/ Arthur Jafa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Jafa | https://www.instagram.com/anamibia/ Daelim Museum: https://www.daelimmuseum.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/daelimmuseum/ | @DaelimMuseum The Design Museum: https://designmuseum.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/designmuseum | @designmuseum Harland Miller: https://www.whitecube.com/artists/harland-miller | https://www.instagram.com/harlandmillers/ V&A: https://www.vam.ac.uk/ | https://www.instagram.com/vamuseum/ | @vamuseum Tate: https://www.tate.org.uk/ | https://www.instagram.com/tate | @Tate Ellen Jong: https://ellenjong.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/_____ellenjong/ SXSW: https://sxsw.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/sxsw/ | @SXSW Lubaina Himid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubaina_Himid | https://www.instagram.com/lubainapics/ CIRCA: https://circa.art/ | https://www.instagram.com/circa.art/ | @CIRCA-ART Max Neuhous: https://www.max-neuhaus.estate/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. 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Get 15% off your .art domain name: https://get.art/?refdotart=art5044n9z17m promo code: ART5044N9Z17M Try Hostinger: https://hostinger.com?REFERRALCODE=INSTALLATIONART An extraordinary conversation with Nicolas de Oliveira and Nicola Oxley, the writer-curator duo who literally wrote the books on installation art and founded the Museum of Installation in London. For nearly 40 years, they've been chroniclers, producers, curators, and advocates for a medium that barely had a name when they first started. From publishing the definitive Installation Art books (1994, 2003) and commissioning hundreds of new works to building an extensive archive – Nicolas and Nicola have been at the coalface of installation art's evolution. In this wide-ranging discussion, they share what it was like convincing galleries that installation art even existed, why good documentation became their mission, and how they've sustained independent curatorial practice for four decades on "absolute shoestring budgets." Key insights from this episode: • How installation art emerged and why galleries insisted it was "just sculpture" • Coining the term "immersive" in their 2003 book (before it became ubiquitous) • Their philosophy of curating as co-production • The economics of independent spaces: how friendships sustain what funding cannot • Why they turned down a massive London space and turned to making books • The difference between installation art and the "entertainment industry" of immersive experiences • Advice for emerging artists: practice comes first, outcomes come later Nicolas de Oliveira and Nicola Oxley are based in London and run SE8 Gallery in Deptford. Their books Installation Art (1994) and Installation Art in the New Millennium (2003) remain foundational texts in the field. They publish artist books under their imprint Mulberry Tree Press and continue to curate exhibitions internationally while maintaining one of the most extensive archives of installation art documentation in the world. 00:26 Discovering Installation Art 01:50 Early Influences and Inspirations 06:24 Founding Unit 7 Gallery 07:30 The Role of Documentation 14:45 Museum of Installation 18:30 SE8 Gallery and International Projects 20:05 Challenges of Space and Real Estate 24:10 Curatorial Practices and Artist Relationships 36:09 Writing Process and Collaboration 43:02 Funding and Sustainability 47:06 Installation Art and the Art Market 01:05:08 Supporting Artists Through Time and Commitment 01:07:36 Advice for Emerging Installation Practitioners 01:17:58 Curating Shows in Different Countries 01:24:09 Documenting and Archiving Installations 01:43:44 Defining Installation Art and Its Future SE8 Gallery: https://se8.gallery/ | https://www.instagram.com/nicode.oliveira?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Installation Art (1996): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12208566-installation-art Installation Art in the New Millennium (2003): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1972215.Installation_Art_in_the_New_Millennium Our interview with Hans op de Beeck: https://installationartpodcast.com/hans-op-de-beeck-018 Bonus episode: What is Installation Art: https://installationartpodcast.com/bonus-025 Bonus episode: Why This 2026 Venice Biennale Scandal is Splitting the Art World: https://installationartpodcast.com/bonus-031 Also mentioned in this episode: Goldsmith’s University: https://www.gold.ac.uk/ | https://www.instagram.com/goldsmithsuol/ | @GoldsmithsUoL Arte Povera: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arte_Povera Yves Klein: https://www.yvesklein.com/en/yves-klein/ | Allan Kaprow: http://www.allankaprow.com/ Dan Graham: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Graham Rachel Whiteread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Whiteread | https://www.instagram.com/rachelwhitereadofficial/ Bruce Nauman: https://www.moma.org/artists/4243-bruce-nauman | https://www.instagram.com/brucenaumanart/ Edward Woodman: https://jhg.art/events/space-light-and-time-edward-woodman-a-retrospective/ Helen Chadwick: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Chadwick Thames & Hudson: https://www.thamesandhudson.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/thamesandhudson ICA London: https://www.ica.art/ https://www.instagram.com/icalondon/ Whitechapel Gallery: https://www.whitechapelgallery.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/whitechapelgallery | @whitechapelgallery Camden Art Centre: https://camdenartcentre.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/camdenartcentre/ | @camden-art-centre Museum of Installation: https://www.moca.london/moi.html | https://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-britain/museum-of-installation-archive New Museum: https://www.newmuseum.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/newmuseum/ | @newmuseum Phyllida Barlow: https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/2826-phyllida-barlow/ KW Institute for Contemporary Art: https://www.kw-berlin.de/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/kwinstitutefcontemporaryart/ Boris Groys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Groys Goshka Macuga: https://www.moma.org/artists/131293-goshka-macuga | https://www.instagram.com/gonogo.space/?hl=en Hans op de Beeck: https://hansopdebeeck.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/hans_op_de_beeck/ Dave Hickey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Hickey Stefan Brüggemann: http://www.stefanbruggemann.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/stefanbruggemann1975/ Chris Kraus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Kraus_(writer) | https://www.instagram.com/chriskraus7/ Jonathan Lethem: https://jonathanlethem.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/jonathanlethem/ Richard Wilson: https://www.richardwilsonsculptor.com/ Lucy R. Lippard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_R._Lippard Giulio Paolini: https://www.mariangoodman.com/artists/57-giulio-paolini/ Pistoletto: https://www.pistoletto.it/eng/home.htm Eva Hesse: https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/2810-eva-hesse/ Marcel Broodthaers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Broodthaers Moon and Jeon: https://moonandjeon.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/moonandjeon/ Documenta: https://documenta.de/en | https://www.instagram.com/documenta_official | @documenta_official Tate: https://www.tate.org.uk/ | https://www.instagram.com/tate | @Tate Ian Kiaer: https://alisonjacques.com/artists/ian-kiaer Olivia Guigue: http://www.oliviaguigue.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/oliviaguigue/ Pearl Jam: https://pearljam.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/pearljam A Book of Burning Matches exhibition: https://repository.londonmet.ac.uk/6423/1/De-Oliveira_ A-Book-of-Burning-Matches_V3.pdf David Price on Substack: https://davidpricework.substack.com/ Lucia Nogueira: https://www.luhringaugustine.com/artists/lucia-nogueira#tab:thumbnails Patrick Jolley: http://www.patrickjolley.com/ Joseph Kosuth: https://www.skny.com/artists/joseph-kosuth | https://www.instagram.com/josephkosuthstudio/ Hal Foster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Foster_(art_critic) Komar and Melamid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komar_and_Melamid Hans Haacke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Haacke Sea of Tranquility: https://hansopdebeeck.com/bookshop/sea-of-tranquillity Sand novella: https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Hans-Beeck-Sea-Tranquility-novella-Sand/30087411544/bd Ole Jørgen Ness: https://galleririis.com/exhibitions/6 Marit Følstad: https://folstad.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/maritfoelstad/ Christo & Jeanne Claude: https://christojeanneclaude.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/christojeanneclaude Ilya Kabakov: https://www.kabakov.net/ Hauser & Wirth: https://www.hauserwirth.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/hauserwirth/ | @HauserWirth Leal Rios Foundation: https://lealriosfoundation.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/fundacaolealrios/ Me Collectors Room Berlin: https://www.instagram.com/mecollectorsroom/ Dialogue Gallery Lisbon: https://dialoguegallery.pt/ | https://www.instagram.com/dialogue.gallery/ Appleton Lisbon: https://appleton.pt/about/ | https://www.instagram.com/appletonassociacaocultural/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/

Try Descript: https://get.descript.com/s8kjemvu79fz An in-depth conversation with award-winning sculptor and installation artist Zadok Ben-David, whose practice spans delicate miniature work to large-scale public installations. From his early beginnings in Yemen and Israel to representing his country at the Venice Biennale, Zadok shares the philosophical and practical journey behind his internationally acclaimed work. Discover how he transforms metal into poetic metaphors exploring human nature, evolution, and our relationship with the natural world (and how one installation changed a stranger's life forever). Key insights from this episode: • The path from abstract expressionism at St Martin's School of Art to creating massive figurative installations • How 30,000 hand-painted flowers became one of the world's most travelled installations and the team of assistants who helped create them • Behind the scenes of installing work across five continents, from prisoners in Germany to 70 assistants in Uzbekistan • The commercial strategy that funds large-scale installations through smaller original works • Why Zadok turned down a $1 million public art commission to maintain artistic integrity • The profound moment when his Blackfield installation helped a Holocaust survivor find hope again Zadok Ben-David is based in London and Portugal. You can find out more about his work on his website https://www.zadokbendavid.com/ and follow him on Instagram @zadokstudio https://www.instagram.com/zadokstudio/ Exhibition “FLOWERS. Art from the Renaissance to Artificial Intelligence” in Rome until 22 February 2026: https://www.chiostrodelbramante.it/post_mostra/flowers-flowers-art/ 03:27 Work-Life Balance Insights 06:15 Journey to Art and Family Influence 09:17 Art School Challenges and Triumphs 10:19 Moving to London and Early Struggles 15:15 Discovering Sculpture and Teaching 21:06 First Installations 25:17 Animal Metaphors in Art 34:25 Global Exhibitions and Unique Experiences 38:23 Commercial Aspects of Art 40:33 People I Saw, But Never Met 44:58 Art Installations Around the World 48:58 The Other Side of Midnight 54:44 Challenges in Art Installations 01:04:37 The Healing Power of Art 01:11:40 Upcoming Exhibitions and Contact Information Also mentioned in this episode: Anish Kapoor: https://anishkapoor.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/dirty_corner/ Jerusalem Art Academy: https://www.bezalel.ac.il/en | https://www.instagram.com/bezalel_academy | @bezalelacademyofartanddesi1460 University of Reading: https://www.reading.ac.uk/ | https://www.instagram.com/uniofreading/ | @UniofReading Chelsea College of Arts: https://www.arts.ac.uk/colleges/chelsea-college-of-arts | https://www.instagram.com/unioftheartslondon/ | @UniversityoftheArtsLondon Central Saint Martins: https://www.arts.ac.uk/colleges/central-saint-martins | https://www.instagram.com/unioftheartslondon/ | @UniversityoftheArtsLondon Anthony Caro: https://www.anthonycaro.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/anthonycarocentre/ Aesop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesop's_Fables Krylov: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Krylov's_fables Kröller-Müller Museum: https://krollermuller.nl/en | https://www.instagram.com/krollermullermuseum/ Kunsthal Rotterdam: https://www.kunsthal.nl/en/#tijdlijn-2026-03 | https://www.instagram.com/kunsthal/ | @KunsthalRotterdam Art Gallery of Uzbekistan: https://uzbekistan1.com/art-gallery-of-uzbekistan/ Neanderthal Museum: https://neanderthal.de/en | https://www.instagram.com/neanderthalmuseum/ |@NeanderthalMuseum Sculpture by the Sea: https://sculpturebythesea.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/sculpturebythesea | @sculpturebythesea National Museum of the Republic of Kazakhstan: https://nmrk.kz/en/ | @qazaqstanrespyblkasynynult9862 Annandale Galleries: https://annandalegalleries.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/annandalegalleries/ Ploshchad Mira Museum Center: https://mira1.ru/about | @na_mira1 Krasnoyarsk Museum Biennale: https://biennale.ru/ Joseph Beuys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Beuys GYRE: https://gyre-omotesando.com/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/gyre_omotesando/ | @gyreTV Chiostro del Bramante: https://www.chiostrodelbramante.it/post_mostra/flowers-flowers-art/ | https://www.instagram.com/chiostrodelbramante_roma | @chiostrodelbramante Andreas Gursky: https://www.andreasgursky.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/andreasgursky_official Ai Weiwei: https://www.aiweiwei.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/aiww/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: @installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ Mentioned in this episode: Try Descript: https://get.descript.com/s8kjemvu79fz

Subscribe to receive new episodes straight to your inbox: https://installationartpodcast.com/subscribe  In this bonus episode, host Anastasia Parmson explores what it really means to approach residencies as an installation artist. Beyond the logistics of time, space, and materials, we dive into bigger questions that shape the medium: • How to make large-scale, site-specific work in short timeframes and unfamiliar contexts? • What happens when you choose temporary or fragile materials instead of archival ones? • Is the value of installation art in the object, the process or the audience experience? • Could installation art be considered disposable or should we always aim for permanence? Drawing from a recent experimental residency at DRAW Space in Sydney, Anastasia reflects on the challenges of working fast, improvising with cardboard and collaborating with others. But more importantly, you’ll be invited to consider your own approach to residencies, materials, and the long-term value of installation art. Whether you’re an installation artist or simply curious about how these questions play out in practice, this episode offers insights and provocations designed to spark discussion. 00:00 Introduction and Listener Review 01:54 Invitation to Draw Space Residency 03:47 Challenges and Initial Thoughts 06:10 Execution and Community Involvement 08:21 Building the Installation 12:01 Final Touches and Open Day 15:43 Reflections on the Experiment 24:49 Conclusion and Future Plans Did this episode raise questions or spark ideas? We’d love to hear from you! Share your thoughts, stories, or residency experiences: • Leave a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast  • Send a DM on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ • Use the contact form: https://installationartpodcast.com/contact Buy me a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/installationartpodcast  Also mentioned in this epsisode: DRAW Space: https://drawspace.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/drawspacesydney  Mentioned in this episode: Get your .art domain name https://get.art/?refdotart=art5044n9z17m promo code: ART5044N9Z17M

Get 15% off your .art domain name: https://get.art/?refdotart=art5044n9z17m promo code: ART5044N9Z17M Great deals from web host Hostinger: https://www.hostinger.com/referral?REFERRALCODE=INSTALLATIONART An enlightening conversation with celebrated Danish artist Uffe Isolotto. Discover his journey from growing up in a remote town in Denmark to being selected to represent his country at the prestigious Venice Biennale. Learn how Uffe balances work and life, the nuances of his collaborative process, and his unique approach to installation art. Key insights include: • The role of music and collaboration in his creative process. • Uffe’s early inspirations and how he evolved from poetry to visual art. • The logistics and challenges of creating large-scale immersive installations and collaborating with other artists and craftsmen. • Behind-the-scenes about preparing for the Venice Biennale and the unexpected aftermath. • Future projects and Uffe’s interest in film and world-building as part of his artistic practice. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of Isolotto’s process and his innovative approach to contemporary installation art. You can follow Uffe on Instagram at @uffeisolotto https://www.instagram.com/uffeisolotto/ and learn more about his installation for the Danish Pavilion at Venice Biennale at @wewalkedtheearth https://www.instagram.com/wewalkedtheearth 04:47 Journey into Art and Education 10:07 First Major Projects and Public Art 12:34 Venice Biennale Experience 15:57 Collaborations and Challenges 18:19 Creative Process and World Building 28:04 Skills and People Management 30:49 Exploring Hyperrealistic Sculpture 31:30 Post-Venice Reflections 33:14 Venturing into Filmmaking 37:40 Artistic Practice and Longevity 44:49 Funding and Challenges 54:52 Advice for Young Artists 58:04 Current Projects and Future Plans PS: We ran into a few technical issues during the recording of this episode, which means a small section of the conversation didn’t make it into the final cut and the audio isn’t perfect throughout. We appreciate your understanding. Also mentioned in this episode: NTS Radio: https://www.nts.live/ | https://www.instagram.com/nts_radio/ | @NTSLIVEUK Danish Art Foundation: https://www.kunst.dk/english/about-us | https://www.instagram.com/statenskunstfond/  Thomas Foldberg: https://thomasfoldberg.dk/ | https://www.instagram.com/thomas_foldberg_studio/ Lars Von Trier: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001885/ | https://www.instagram.com/larsvontrier_/  Soft Baroque: https://softbaroque.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/soft_baroque/  Anne Sofie Madsen: https://www.instagram.com/annesofiemadsenstudio/ Carlsberg Foundation: https://www.carlsbergfondet.dk/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/carlsbergfondet/ | @Carlsbergfondet1876 Simon Starling: https://www.contemporaryartlibrary.org/artist/simon-starling-14184 Den Frie: https://denfrie.dk/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/denfrie.cph/ Holstebro Kunstmuseum: https://en.holstebrokunstmuseum.dk/ | https://www.instagram.com/holstebrokunstmuseum/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast Tiktok: @installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: https://installationartpodcast.com/ Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ 🗣️ Join the conversation in our Linkedin group The Installation Art Society, a space for conversations about installation art and a platform for practitioners to share insights, discuss technical aspects, and exchange behind-the-scenes stories: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/14532340/

Episode 32 features an unforgettable conversation with acclaimed New York-based sculptor and installation artist Petah Coyne. Known for her intricate, large-scale works crafted from an extraordinary range of materials – from dead fish and shredded trailers to wax, taxidermy, and black sand. Coyne’s career spans decades and her works are in major museum collections, including MoMA, the Whitney, the Met, and the Guggenheim.  In this candid, in-depth interview, she shares not only her creative evolution and technical processes but also the personal stories, risks, and moments of doubt behind her monumental career. Key takeaways from this interview include: • The wild true story of how 5,000 dead fish played a role in launching her art career. • How Petah developed her own patented wax formula and the extreme logistics behind shipping large-scale works across the world. • A behind-the-scenes account of her first major institutional installation and the unexpected accident that helped get it reviewed by The New York Times. • Her perspective on rejection, persistence, and why she applied for grants every year for a decade before getting one. • Thoughtful reflections on time, mortality, and the pressure artists feel to keep creating. From poetic anecdotes to hard-earned wisdom, this episode offers a rare glimpse into the mind of a successful and deeply generous artist whose work, like great literature, lingers long after the first encounter. 03:52 The Dead Fish Prank 07:36 Early Life and Artistic Beginnings 14:40 How To Avoid School 16:00 Moving to New York 22:22 First Big Break and Installation Art 41:34 The Importance of Archival Quality 46:22 Finding and Working with Assistants 48:53 Fragility and Tactility of Artworks 51:09 The Stolen Sculpture Incident 54:36 Selling Large Sculptures to Collectors 01:07:04 Navigating the Art World 01:09:52 The Importance of Feedback 01:24:56 Funding Art Projects 01:31:01 Experimenting with New Mediums 01:37:43 Final Thoughts and Advice To Artists Petah Coyne is based in New York and is represented by Galerie Lelong & Co., New York: https://galerielelong.com/artists/11-petah-coyne/  and Nunu Fine Art, Taiwan: https://www.nunufineart.com/petah-coyne You can find out more about her work on her website: https://www.petahcoyne.org/ And follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/petahcoyne Also mentioned in this episode: The Jealous Curator: https://thejealouscurator.substack.com/about | https://www.instagram.com/thejealouscurator/  Art For Your Ear Podcast, interview with Petah Coyne: https://www.thejealouscurator.com/blog/2020/11/20/just-be-wonderful/  Herron School of Art and Design: https://herron.indianapolis.iu.edu/  Art Academy of Cincinnati: https://www.artacademy.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/artacademyofcincinnati/ | @artacademycincinnati  Columbia University: https://www.columbia.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/columbia/ | @columbia  Jody Pinto: https://www.jodypinto.com/ Alice Acock: https://www.aaycock.com/  Donna Dennis: https://www.donnadennisart.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/donnadennisstudio/  Judy Pfaff: https://www.judypfaffstudio.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/judy.pfaff/  Holly Solomon: https://www.bonhams.com/stories/39878/works-from-the-collection-of-holly-solomon/  Sculpture Center: https://www.sculpture-center.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/sculpturecenter/#  Marian Griffiths: https://www.artforum.com/news/marian-griffiths-1922-2008-189230/  Leo Castelli: https://www.castelligallery.com/about/leo-castelli | https://www.instagram.com/castelligallery  Adam Gopnick: https://www.adamgopnik.com/bio | https://x.com/adamgopnik  Chazen Museum of Art: https://chazen.wisc.edu/  Eva Hesse: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/hesse-eva/  Sol LeWitt: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/lewitt-sol/  Mary Sabbatino: https://www.cpal-info.com/mary-sabbatino | https://www.instagram.com/mary_sabbatino/  Gallery Lelong: https://galerielelong.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/galerielelong  Guerilla Girls: https://www.guerrillagirls.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/guerrillagirls/ | @GUERRILLAGIRLS Iréne Hultman: https://tdps.yale.edu/profile/irene-hultman-monti | https://www.instagram.com/irenehultmanmonti/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: @installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ 🗣️ Join the conversation in our Facebook group The Installation Art Society, a space for conversations about installation art and a platform for practitioners to share insights, discuss technical aspects, and exchange behind-the-scenes stories: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/16YGzqRtwb/ Mentioned in this episode: Get your .art domain name https://get.art/?refdotart=art5044n9z17m promo code: ART5044N9Z17M

In this bonus episode of the Installation Art podcast, curator and art consultant Carrie Scott joins me to delve into the ongoing controversy surrounding the Venice Biennale Australian Pavilion. Together we discuss: • How artist Khaled Sabsabi and curator Michael Dagostino were appointed to represent Australia at the 2026 Venice Biennale and then abruptly cancelled • The procedural, political, and social dimensions of the decision made by Creative Australia, its impact on the local and international art scene, and what it means for artistic freedom • How the Australian arts community is responding to the shock decision • Carrie shares her personal experiences and insights, offering a poignant perspective on the value of art that challenges and provokes. We also touch on recent tragic news that affects the Biennale more broadly and raises questions about who has the authority to decide what kind of art is “acceptable” or what art is about. 05:02 The Australian Pavilion Controversy: An Overview 06:51 Selection Process for the Australian Pavilion 10:46 Creative Australia's Decision and Backlash 12:10 Senate Hearing and Further Repercussions 17:36 Personal Reflections on the Controversy 38:40 National Pavilions and Curator's Theme 39:09 Tragic Passing of Koyo Kouoh 42:38 Journalist's Role and Agenda 45:16 Art and Political Sensitivities 48:14 Personal Reflections on 9/11 53:16 Curatorial Challenges and Responses 58:59 Speculations and Broader Implications Carrie Scott is a curator and art consultant based in London: https://www.carrie-scott.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/carriescottcurates/ 
 SEEN is a next-generation art consultancy, shining a light on the opaque world of galleries, auction houses and dealers: https://www.seen.art/ | https://www.instagram.com/watchseenart/ | @watchseenart 📬 Got comments? Share your thoughts: SpeakPipe.com/InstallationArtPodcast Or DM us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ If you want to help the Sabsabi-Dagostino project in Venice, go to this website: https://khaledsabsabi.com/support-the-venice-biennale-2026-exhibition-by-khaled-sabsabi-curated-by-michael-dagostino/ Or purchase a unique artwork by Sabsabi to help raise funds: https://unvanishedsabsabi.myshopify.com/ Khaled Sabsabi speaks: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/the-art-show/khaled-sabsabi-speaks/105050484 https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/audio/2025/apr/01/exclusive-khaled-sabsabi-speaks-on-the-damage-of-being-dumped-from-the-venice-biennale-full-story-podcast Also mentioned in this episode: Khaled Sabsabi: https://khaledsabsabi.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/peacefender/ Michael Dagostino: https://www.sydney.edu.au/museum/about-us/our-people.html  Creative Australia: https://creative.gov.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/creative.australia/  Venice Biennale: https://www.labiennale.org/en | https://www.instagram.com/labiennale/ | @BiennaleChannel Adrian Collette: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrian-collette-31a192ba/?originalSubdomain=au  The Australian article “Your Taxpayer Dollars At Work: Arts Council takes Creative Approach to Racism” https://www.theaustralian.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=TAWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/margin-call/arts-council-takes-creative-approach-to-racism/news-story/00e630f4d43423d15892ead5cfadaf8d&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=HIGH-Segment-2-SCORE&V21spcbehaviour=appendend Memo: https://www.memoreview.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/memo_review/  MCA Sydney: https://www.mca.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/mca_australia | @mcaaustralia  Liz-Anne McGregor op-ed: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2025/feb/18/australia-venice-biennale-sabsabi-dumped-former-museum-contemporary-art-head-says-ntwnfb  Thank You Very Much, 2006: https://khaledsabsabi.com/work/thank-you-very-much/  Monash University Museum of Art: https://www.monash.edu/muma/home | https://www.instagram.com/mumamonash  Lindy Lee: https://www.lindylee.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/lindylee.13/  Simon Mordant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Mordant  Koyo Kouoh: https://curatorsintl.org/about/collaborators/5322-koyo-kouoh | https://www.instagram.com/madamekoyo/  Interview with Koyo Kouoh: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-art-world-what-if/id1203133627?i=1000649955901 Hank Willis Thomas: https://hankwillisthomas.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/hankwillisthomas/  Lubaina Himid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubaina_Himid | https://www.instagram.com/lubainapics/   Josh Milani: https://milanigallery.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/milanigallery  🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: @installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ 🗣️ Join the conversation in our Linkedin group The Installation Art Society, a space for conversations about installation art and a platform for practitioners to share insights, discuss technical aspects, and exchange behind-the-scenes stories: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/14532340/

Try Descript: https://get.descript.com/s8kjemvu79fz In this episode, we speak with Elizabeth Lewis, Public Art Division Manager at Tilt Industrial Design, who offers a fascinating insider's perspective on how large-scale public artworks are engineered, managed, and brought to life. Elizabeth reveals the complex ecosystem of stakeholders involved in creating public art and shares invaluable advice for artists looking to break into this challenging but rewarding medium. What you will learn: • How industrial designers like Elizabeth act as "translators" between artists' creative visions and the technical requirements needed to bring monumental works to life • The truth about public art budgets and practices • Practical advice for artists wanting to venture into public art, including starting with temporary installations and test sites • How indigenous artists are bringing multidisciplinary approaches to public art that may reshape the entire field About Elizabeth Lewis: Elizabeth Lewis is the Public Art Division Manager at Tilt Industrial Design, an Australian firm specialising in technically complex and ambitious public art projects. With a background in industrial design, she has overseen numerous large-scale installations throughout Australia, working with established artists, emerging creators, and First Nations storytellers to translate artistic visions into enduring public works. 03:17 Early Life and Inspirations 04:39 Educational Journey 05:39 First Job Experiences 08:01 Transition to Tilt 14:58 Challenges in Public Art 18:29 Skills and Learning 33:50 Project Timelines 35:55 The Lifespan of Public Art 45:49 The Role of Public Art Curators 48:01 Building Networks and Identifying Artists 50:49 First Nations and Indigenous Art 53:01 The Growth of Public Art in Sydney 59:09 Convincing Developers to Invest in Art 01:05:08 Advice for Emerging Public Artists 01:24:53 Current and Upcoming Projects 01:26:08 Where to Find More Information Tilt Industrial Design: https://tilt-industrialdesign.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/tiltindustrialdesign  Also mentioned in this episode: ResMed: https://shop.resmed.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/resmedanz/ | @resmedanz5242  BOC: https://www.boc.com.au/shop/en/au/home | @boclimited  Tim Phillips: https://tilt-industrialdesign.com/news-media/media/tilts-tim-phillips-managing-director-featured-in-boutique-developer/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/timphillipsdesigns/  Ateliers Jean Nouvel: https://www.jeannouvel.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/ateliersjeannouvel/  Yann Kersale: https://yannkersale.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/yannkersale/ | @studioyannkersale  Reko Rennie: https://rekorennie.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/rekorennie/  Barbara Flynn: https://barbaraflynn.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/barbaraflynnptyltd/  Test Sites: https://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/public-art-test-sites-program | https://www.instagram.com/publicartmelbourne/    Sculpture By The Sea: https://sculpturebythesea.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/sculpturebythesea | @sculpturebythesea Vivid Sydney: https://www.vividsydney.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/vividsydney/ | @vividsydney Placemaking NSW: https://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/about-us/our-work/placemaking-nsw  Art And About: https://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/art-about | https://www.instagram.com/cityofsydney | @CityofSydney Kilometre of Sculpture: https://www.facebook.com/KilometreofSculpture/?profile_tab_item_selected=mentions&_rdr  NAVA: https://visualarts.net.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/nava_visualarts/   Janet Laurence: https://www.janetlaurence.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/janetlaurence/  ASPECT Studios: https://www.aspect-studios.com/au/ | https://www.instagram.com/aspectstudios  Warren Langley: https://www.warrenlangley.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/warren_langley_artist/  Jacob Nash: https://www.jacobnashdesign.com/ 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: @installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ 🗣️ Join the conversation in our Linkedin group The Installation Art Society, a space for conversations about installation art and a platform for practitioners to share insights, discuss technical aspects, and exchange behind-the-scenes stories: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/14532340/ Mentioned in this episode: Try Descript: https://get.descript.com/s8kjemvu79fz

Leave a tip: https://donate.stripe.com/4gw4km4VpeUwdkkbIL Try Descript: https://get.descript.com/s8kjemvu79fz In this episode, we sit down with Belgian artist Lawrence Malstaf, whose innovative work exists at the fascinating intersection of visual art, performance, and theatrical experience. Based in Tromsø, Norway, Malstaf has earned international acclaim for his immersive installations that transform viewers into active participants. Episode Highlights: • Lawrence shares his journey from studying industrial design (rather than fine art at his parents' suggestion) to discovering how this technical background gave him invaluable skills in working with contemporary materials. • We discuss Malstaf’s famous vacuum piece "Shrink" (1995), where participants are sealed between plastic sheets while air is slowly removed, creating both a striking visual image and physical experience that differs dramatically for viewers versus participants. • His recent focus on sustainable art practices and an innovative project creating "hotels" for endangered kittiwake seagulls in Tromsø, transforming an urban nuisance into an interspecies art project. 02:44 Quick Questions 05:27 Childhood and Early Influences 07:51 Industrial Design and Artistic Beginnings 09:46 Theater and Installation Art 16:41 Creating Opportunities and Multidisciplinary Spaces 21:50 Sustainable Art and Seagull Project 25:16 Audience Interaction and Physical Experience 29:19 Behind The Scenes Challenges 32:48 Artistic Evolution and Viral Fame 38:22 Sustainable Art Practices 41:48 Income From Art 44:27 Proudest Moments and Career Reflections 47:42 Advice for Emerging Artists 49:44 Internship Opportunity 51:48 Dream Projects 58:46 Where to Find More Information Lawrence Malstaf (b. 1972, Bruges, Belgium) is based in Tromsø, Norway. He creates installation and performance art that exists at the borderline between visual arts and theatrical experience. With a focus on movement, coincidence, order and chaos, he develops immersive sensorial environments that often position visitors as co-actors in the artwork. His background in industrial design informs his technical approach to materials and mechanisms, while his experience in scenography for dance and theater influences the performative aspects of his installations. You can find out more about his work on his website: https://www.lawrencemalstaf.com/ and get the latest updates on his Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawrencemalstaf/  Malstaf is represented by Tallieu Art Office: https://www.artoffice.be/artists/lawrence-malstaf/  All images courtesy of the artist. Also mentioned in this episode: Ischa Tallieu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ischatallieu/?originalSubdomain=be  Tailleu Art Office:  https://www.artoffice.be/ | https://www.instagram.com/tallieu_art  Bains Connective in Brussels: https://www.artfactories.net/Les-Bains-Connective-Bruxelles.html  Frankfurter Kunstverein: https://www.fkv.de/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/frankfurterkunstverein/ | @FrankfurterKunstverein FILE Festival for Electronic Languages: https://file.org.br/ https://www.instagram.com/filefestival/  Paola Perissinotto: https://digitalartarchive.at/database/artist/1340/ Delphin Ruché: https://www.rissa-cs.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/rissa_citizen_science/  The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast?_t=ZS-8um3RdvX9zs&_r=1 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ 🗣️ Join the conversation in our Linkedin group The Installation Art Society, a space for conversations about installation art and a platform for practitioners to share insights, discuss technical aspects, and exchange behind-the-scenes stories: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/14532340/ Mentioned in this episode: Try Descript: https://get.descript.com/s8kjemvu79fz

Episode 28 features an in-depth conversation with Australian-American artist Natasha Johns Messenger, renowned for her architectural interventions, site-determined work and public art commissions. Key insights from this interview include: • How her educational journey shifted her from figurative painting to abstraction and then installation art and filmmaking. • The distinct creative and logistical differences between public art and to museum installations. • Behind-the-scenes stories of unexpected technical issues and the importance of the right collaborators in her creative process. • The impact of her filmmaking studies on her artistic career and the dream projects she envisions for the future. 00:00 Quick Fire Questions 03:38 Early Artistic Influences 07:23 Art School Journey 12:48 First Exhibitions and Installations 16:19 Expanding Horizons: New York and Beyond 37:13 Public Art vs. Installation Art 42:17 Public Perception of Art 45:30 Challenges in Public Art Installations 48:23 Unexpected Installation Issues 55:10 Career Decisions and Filmmaking 59:09 Significant Opportunities 01:04:11 Dream Projects and Future Plans 01:05:55 Meeting the Queen of Holland 01:09:06 Current and Upcoming Projects 01:15:15 Public Artworks to Visit Find out more about her work on her website: https://www.natashajohnsmessenger.com/  Follow her Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/natashajohnsmessenger Also mentioned in this episode: Robert Irwin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Irwin_(artist) RMIT: https://www.rmit.edu.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/rmituniversity/ | @rmit Gertrude Contemporary: https://gertrude.org.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/gertrudecontemporary/ 
Bala Starr: https://weareuntold.org/2024-women-of-gold/bala-starr Kate Shaw: https://www.kateshaw.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/kateshawart/ Bus Projects: https://busprojects.org.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/busprojects/ The Museum of Dirt: http://www.artdes.monash.edu.au/globe/issue9/mdtitle.html Max Delaney: https://www.instagram.com/maxdelany/ Australian Centre for Contemporary Art: https://acca.melbourne/ | https://www.instagram.com/acca_melbourne/ MCA: https://www.mca.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/mca_australia | @mcaaustralia Centre for Contemporary Photography: https://ccp.org.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/ccp_australia/ ACP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Centre_for_Photography Perth Institute of Contemporary Arts: https://pica.org.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/pica_perth/ International Studio & Curatorial Program: https://www.linkedin.com/company/international-studio-&-curatorial-program-iscp-/ | https://www.instagram.com/iscp_nyc/ Creative Australia (formerly Australia Council): https://creative.gov.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/creative.australia/ Sara Reisman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-reisman/ | https://www.instagram.com/reismansara/ Station Gallery: https://stationgallery.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/stationgalleryaustralia/ A Streetcar Named Desire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Streetcar_Named_Desire BAM: https://www.bam.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/bam_brooklyn | @BAMorg Cate Blanchett: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000949/ | https://www.instagram.com/cate_blanchettofficial/ Bowness Photography Prize: https://maph.org.au/bowness-photography-prize/ https://www.instagram.com/maph_photography/ Strange Engine: https://www.strangeengine.org/ John Wardle Architect: https://wardle.studio/ | https://www.instagram.com/wardle.studio/ Jacaranda Industries: https://www.jacarandaindustries.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/jacarandaindustries/ European Museum Technology: https://europeanmuseum.tech/ | @europeanmuseumtech Monash University: https://www.monash.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/monash_uni Bluebottle: https://bb3.net.au/#/ | https://www.instagram.com/bluebottle3/ Brian Scales: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-scales-01566745/?originalSubdomain=au On Beam Engineering: https://onbeam.com.au/ Derek John: https://djprojects.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/julie_derek_djprojects Vault by Rob Robertson Swann: https://acca.melbourne/education/resources/public-art/melbourne-public-art-trail/1-ron-robertson-swann-vault-1980/ Richard Serra: https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/artist/richard-serra Public Art for Public Schools: http://nycsca.org/Community/Public-Art-for-Public-Schools/About-Us 
Percent For Art NYC: https://dcla-percent-for-art-nyc.hub.arcgis.com/ Columbia University: https://www.columbia.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/columbia/ | @columbia Heide Museum of Modern Art: https://www.heide.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/heidemoma Escher Museum: https://www.escherinhetpaleis.nl/ | https://www.instagram.com/escherinpaleis/ No Longer Empty: https://www.nyc-arts.org/organizations/no-longer-empty/ | https://www.instagram.com/nolongerempty/ 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: @installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ 🗣️ Join the conversation in our Linkedin group The Installation Art Society, a space for conversations about installation art and a platform for practitioners to share insights, discuss technical aspects, and exchange behind-the-scenes stories: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/14532340/

Leave a voice message here: https://www.speakpipe.com/InstallationArtPodcast In this bonus episode, I recap my recent conversation with legendary artist Sandy Skoglund. Key topics include: Sandy’s belief about needing a NYC loft to be a “real artist” Her relentless pursuit of new skills like sculpting, bronze casting, and 3D modeling The longevity of art and advocating for it after you’re gone The episode also explores Sandy's innovative approaches to storage issues and her strategies for making long-lasting, transportable art. Additionally, I share some personal challenges and inspirations gained from the interview, and tease insights available in the full conversation. 00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview 01:31 Listener Feedback and Appreciation 03:10 Challenges of Studio Spaces for Artists 04:14 Sandy's Relentless Pursuit of New Skills 10:24 Managing Storage and Donations 13:01 Thoughts on Posthumous Legacy 14:39 Material Challenges and Preservation 18:38 Final Reflections and Call to Action Also mentioned in this episode: Episode 26: Exploring Unconventional Materials with Installation Art Pioneer Sandy Skoglund: https://installationartpodcast.com/sandy-skoglund-026  Art For Your Ear Podcast, interview with Sandy Skoglund: https://thejealouscurator.libsyn.com/sandy-skoglund-believe-you-have-to-do-it On Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/sandy-skoglund-believe-you-have-to-do-it/id996338562?i=1000547949009  The Jealous Curator: https://thejealouscurator.substack.com/about | https://www.instagram.com/thejealouscurator/ Sandy Skoglund: https://www.sandyskoglund.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/sandyskoglundart/  🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: @installationartpodcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ 🗣️ Join the conversation in our Linkedin group The Installation Art Society, a space for conversations about installation art and a platform for practitioners to share insights, discuss technical aspects, and exchange behind-the-scenes stories: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/14532340/

Try Descript here: https://get.descript.com/s8kjemvu79fz In this episode, host Anastasia welcomes legendary American installation artist Sandy Skoglund for a fascinating dialogue about her life's work, creative process, and the challenges she has faced. Key insights from this episode: • How some of her childhood experiences formed her perspective as an artist. • The genesis of her first major installation, “Radioactive Cats” and the evolution of her work from photography to sculpture. • The intricate process and materials involved in creating her installations, from found objects to experimental ephemeral media like Cheez Doodles and marmalade. • Challenges with material durability and unexpected issues like insect infestations in food-based art. • The importance of learning new skills from scratch to produce her projects. • Insightful anecdotes about storage, transportation, and installation of large-scale art pieces. Sandy also reflects on the financial and logistical aspects of sustaining a career in the arts. This episode is an inspiring look into the dedication, creativity, and adaptability required in contemporary installation art, from the perspective of a very influential artist. 03:45 Early Life and Artistic Beginnings 08:28 First Installations and Influences 10:04 Radioactive Cats and Alternative Spaces 12:34 Material Choices and Fresh Hybrid 15:45 Challenges with Unusual Materials 48:25 The Saw Incident in Manhattan 49:33 Advice for Installation Artists 50:34 Documenting and Installing Art 51:46 Creating Walking On Eggshells 57:25 Funding and Financial Aspects of Art 01:00:29 Challenges and Rewards 01:09:30 The Loft Scene and Working Spaces 01:17:41 New Work and Upcoming Projects Also mentioned in this episode: The Jealous Curator: https://thejealouscurator.substack.com/about | https://www.instagram.com/thejealouscurator/  Art For Your Ear Podcast, interview with Sandy Skoglund: https://thejealouscurator.libsyn.com/sandy-skoglund-believe-you-have-to-do-it https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/sandy-skoglund-believe-you-have-to-do-it/id996338562?i=1000547949009  Howdy Doody: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howdy_Doody  George Segal: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/segal-george/  Edward Kienholz: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/kienholz-edward/  Nancy Reddin Kienholz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Reddin_Kienholz  Real Art Ways: https://www.realartways.org/ | http://instagram.com/realartways  Cheez Doodles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheez_Doodles  Janet Borden Inc.: https://janetbordeninc.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/janetbordeninc/  Marcel Duchamp: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/duchamp-marcel/  Adobe Photoshop: https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html | https://www.instagram.com/adobe/  Dieu Donné: https://www.dieudonne.org/ | http://instagram.com/dieudonnepaper | @DieuDonnePaperMill McNay Art Museum: https://www.mcnayart.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/mcnayart | @mcnayartmuseum2403  Rule Gallery: https://rulegallery.com/ | https://instagram.com/rulegallery/  The Chinati Foundation: https://chinati.org/ | https://instagram.com/chinatifoundation/  Donald Judd: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/judd-donald/  Rutgers University: https://www.rutgers.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/rutgersu | @RutgersU The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: @installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ 🗣️ Join the conversation in our Linkedin group The Installation Art Society, a space for conversations about installation art and a platform for practitioners to share insights, discuss technical aspects, and exchange behind-the-scenes stories: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/14532340/ Mentioned in this episode: Try Descript: https://get.descript.com/s8kjemvu79fz

In this bonus episode of The Installation Art Podcast, host Anastasia Parmson delves into the question: “What is installation art?” through a personal lens. We explore the historical roots and evolution of the medium, significant artists and works, and discuss foundational concepts, such as site-specificity, scale and accumulation, and how those differentiate installation from other contemporary art mediums. We take a look at notable artists and their historic contributions, as well as some of the guests previously featured on the show. This episode offers examples and personal observations inviting listeners to share their own perspectives and experiences. 00:00 Introduction and Listener Message 01:53 Defining Installation Art: A Personal Interpretation 02:50 Early Pioneers: Duchamp and Schwitters 05:06 Mid-20th Century Innovations 07:10 Assemblage and Accumulation 08:45 Site Specificity and Scale 17:15 Video and Multimedia Installations 18:46 Public Art and Murals 21:32 Conclusion and Listener Engagement Mentioned in this episode: Marcel Duchamp: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/duchamp-marcel/ Bicycle wheel,1913 Porte 11 Rue Larrey,1927 1200 Coal Sacks,1938 Air de Paris,1919 Kurt Schwitters: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/schwitters-kurt/ Merzbau, 1923-1937: https://www.tate.org.uk/research/tate-papers/08/kurt-schwitters-reconstructions-of-the-merzbau Joseph Beuys: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/beuys-joseph/ Yves Klein: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/klein-yves/ Le Vide, 1958: https://www.littleartnecdotes.com/le-vide-1958/ Iris Clert Gallery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_Clert_Gallery Arman: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/arman/ Poubelles: https://www.armanstudio.com/artworks/poubelles Le Plein, 1960 Daniel Spoerri: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/spoerri-daniel/ Barry Le Va: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Le_Va Christo & Jeanne Claude: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/christo-and-jean-claude/ Robert Smithson: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/smithson-robert/ Installation Art: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6467162-installation-art?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=jnQ7mtEYpb&rank=4 Emma Fielden: https://www.emmafielden.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/emmafielden/ Do Ho Suh: https://www.instagram.com/dohosuhstudio/ Nika Neelova: https://www.nikaneelova.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/nikaneelova/?hl=en Korakrit Arunanondchai: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korakrit_Arunanondchai | https://www.instagram.com/kritbangkok/?hl=en Pipilotti Rist: https://pipilottirist.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/pipilotti_rist_studio/ Nicolas Rupcich: https://nicolasrupcich.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/rupcich/ Barbara Kruger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Kruger Antony Gormley: https://www.antonygormley.com/ Ai Weiwei: https://www.aiweiwei.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/aiww/ Felix Gonzales Torres: https://www.theartstory.org/artist/gonzalez-torres-felix/  Wolfgang Laib: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Laib Denes Farkas: https://denesfarkas.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/denes_k_farkas/ Anne Patterson: https://www.annepatterson.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/annepattersonstudio/?hl=en Jason Peters: https://www.jasonpeters.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/jasonpetersart/ Olga Lah: https://www.olgalah.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/olgalah_studio/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: @installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ 🗣️ Join the conversation in our Linkedin group The Installation Art Society, a space for conversations about installation art and a platform for practitioners to share insights, discuss technical aspects, and exchange behind-the-scenes stories: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/14532340/

Try Descript: https://get.descript.com/s8kjemvu79fz In Episode 24, we delve into the artistic journey and career insights of acclaimed Australian artist Alex Seton. This fascinating conversation covers: • The logistics and insider info about creating large-scale marble sculptures and installations. • Alex's unique creative process, from childhood influences to professional milestones. • Insightful anecdotes about public art commissions and navigating institutional complexities. • Tips for emerging artists on studio space, residencies, and entering the commercial gallery scene. Tune in for an engaging blend of career advice, fun anecdotes, and practical experiences from a mid-career artist. 02:43 Introduction and Work-Life Balance 04:27 Early Life and Background 08:13 Art Education and Career Beginnings 21:52 Path To Professional Success 30:22 Art and Mental Health Challenges 42:22 Physical Toll of Sculpture 47:43 Public Art Stories and Disasters 55:23 The Australian Flag and War Memorial Commissions 01:02:21 Logistics and Challenges of Heavy Sculptures 01:08:24 Navigating Relationships With Galleries 01:23:06 Residencies and Their Impact 01:33:17 Sustainability in Sculpture 01:40:16 Dream Project Alex Seton is based in Sydney. You can find out more about his work on his website http://www.alexseton.com/ and on his Instagram alexseton_ He is represented by Sullivan+Strumpf gallery: https://www.sullivanstrumpf.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/sullivanstrumpf/ Also mentioned in this episode: Edna St Vincent Millay: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/edna-st-vincent-millay  Abdel Nasser: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamal_Abdel_Nasser  CSIRO: https://www.csiro.au/en/ Walden by Thoreau: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden  St Ignatius College: https://www.riverview.nsw.edu.au/ |  NIDA (National Institute of Dramatic Art): https://www.nida.edu.au/  UNSW Art & Design (formerly College of Fine Arts): https://www.unsw.edu.au/arts-design-architecture/our-schools/art-design | https://www.instagram.com/unsw/ Brian O’Dwyer: https://www.mutualart.com/Artist/Brian-O-dwyer/AAA0DDC26E101929  Alexie Glass-Kantor: https://creative.gov.au/news/biographies/alexie-glass-kantor/ | https://www.instagram.com/alexieglass/  Russell Storer: https://artasiapacific.com/news/m-names-new-senior-curator-and-head-of-curatorial-affairs  Claire Healy and Sean Cordeiro: https://claireandsean.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/clairehealyandseancordeiro/  Liam Gillick: https://liamgillick.info/  Wombeyan Caves: https://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/visit-a-park/parks/wombeyan-karst-conservation-reserve  Maunsell Wickes: https://maunsellwickes.com/home/ | https://www.instagram.com/maunsellwickesgallery/  Art Gallery of NSW: https://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/artgalleryofnsw/ Ben Quilty: https://benquilty.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/benquilty/  Claire Milliedge: https://claremilledge.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/claremilledge/  Michael Reid: https://michaelreid.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/michaelreidsydney/  S. H. Ervin Gallery: https://www.shervingallery.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/shervingallery/  Pigpen: https://www.peanuts.com/about/pigpen  Mitchell Ferrie: https://nandahobbs.com/artist/mitchell-ferrie | https://www.instagram.com/mitchellferrie/  NandaHobbs: https://nandahobbs.com/ https://www.instagram.com/nandahobbs  Joel Elenberg: https://www.aasd.com.au/artist/93-joel-elenberg/works-in-past-sales/?page=3   Anna Schwartz: https://annaschwartzgallery.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/annaschwartzgallery/  Sculpture By The Sea: https://sculpturebythesea.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/sculpturebythesea Newcastle University: https://www.newcastle.edu.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/uni_newcastle Ken Unsworth: https://artistprofile.com.au/ken-unsworth/  Australian Museum: https://australian.museum/  Ron Robertson Swann: https://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/collection/artists/robertson-swann-ron/  Australian War Memorial: https://www.awm.gov.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/awmemorial Museums of History NSW: https://mhnsw.au/  Hyde Park Barracks: https://mhnsw.au/visit-us/hyde-park-barracks/  Jennifer Turpin: https://turpincrawfordstudio.com.au/ Arts Law: https://www.artslaw.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/artslawaustralia  Urban Art Projects: https://www.uapcompany.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/uapcompany/ Jeanne Claude & Christo: https://christojeanneclaude.net/  Between Two Curators podcast: https://www.betweentwocurators.com/  Jenn Ellis: https://www.artfuljaunts.com/team/jenn-ellis | https://www.instagram.com/jenncellis/  Maunsell Wickes Gallery: https://maunsellwickes.com/  Jan Murphy Gallery: https://www.janmurphygallery.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/janmurphygallery/  Galerie Paris-B: https://www.paris-b.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/galerieparisb/   Unit: https://unitlondon.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/unitlondon/  National Association for the Visual Arts: https://visualarts.net.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/nava_visualarts/  Copyright Agency: https://www.copyright.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/copyrightagency_ Resale Royalty Scheme: https://www.arts.gov.au/funding-and-support/resale-royalty-scheme  Kochi-Muziris Biennale: https://www.kochimuzirisbiennale.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/kochibiennale/ Abdul Abdullah: https://abdulabdullah.com/home.html | https://www.instagram.com/abdul_abdullah  Amrita Hepi: https://www.amritahepi.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/amrita_moves/ Janet Laurence: https://www.janetlaurence.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/janetlaurence/  Richard Bell: https://richardbellart.com/  Art Omi: https://artomi.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/art_omi  Francis Greenburger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_J._Greenburger | https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28695861-risk-game   Triangle residency: https://www.triangleartsnyc.org/  Natural Brick Company: https://naturalbrick.com.au/ https://www.instagram.com/naturalbrick_/  Jamie North: https://jamienorth.com/ | http://www.instagram.com/jamie_north_studio  Not Vital: https://notvital.com/en | https://www.instagram.com/fundaziun.notvital/  Maurizio Cattelan: https://www.perrotin.com/artists/Maurizio_Cattelan/2 | https://www.instagram.com/mauriziocattelan/  Guggenheim: https://www.guggenheim.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/guggenheim/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: @installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ 🗣️ Join the conversation in our Linkedin group The Installation Art Society, a space for conversations about installation art and a platform for practitioners to share insights, discuss technical aspects, and exchange behind-the-scenes stories: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/14532340/ Mentioned in this episode: Try Descript: https://get.descript.com/s8kjemvu79fz