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In the aftermath of Rodney King's assault by police officers in the 90s and his attackers' subsequent acquittal, Ian Rowe and Nique Fajors grew weary of a public narrative proclaiming that black men in America were doomed to failure under an oppressive system. A feeling of invisibleness struck both Ian and Nique as the stories of men like them became increasingly ignored in the public eye. So they launched “The Invisible Men,” a documentary telling the stories of amazing black men at Harvard University who had overcome structural barriers and achieved success.
Today, Ian and Nique have resurrected “The Invisible Men” as a weekly podcast. Each week, they explore the stories of exceptional men who have built successful lives by leaning on the core principles of family, faith, free enterprise, and entrepreneurship.
Integral to the story of “The Invisible Men” is “Darryl,” a 16 year-old black teenager Ian and Nique imagined in the original documentary, who lives in the urban city of “Forgotten, USA” and desires to build a better life for himself but sometimes feels that success is out of his reach. Ian and Nique asked each of the men in their original documentary to advise “Darryl” on how he can forge a path to excellence and empowerment. Join Ian and Nique today for episodes of “The Invisible Men” every week as they hear the stories of incredible men and learn what advice they have for “Darryl” today!
In the aftermath of Rodney King's assault by police officers in the 90s and his attackers' subsequent acquittal, Ian Rowe and Nique Fajors grew weary of a public narrative proclaiming that black men in America were doomed to failure under an oppressive system. A feeling of invisibleness struck both Ian and Nique as the stories of men like them became increasingly ignored in the public eye. So they launched “The Invisible Men,” a documentary telling the stories of amazing black men at Harvard University who had overcome structural barriers and achieved success.
Today, Ian and Nique have resurrected “The Invisible Men” as a weekly podcast. Each week, they explore the stories of exceptional men who have built successful lives by leaning on the core principles of family, faith, free enterprise, and entrepreneurship.
Integral to the story of “The Invisible Men” is “Darryl,” a 16 year-old black teenager Ian and Nique imagined in the original documentary, who lives in the urban city of “Forgotten, USA” and desires to build a better life for himself but sometimes feels that success is out of his reach. Ian and Nique asked each of the men in their original documentary to advise “Darryl” on how he can forge a path to excellence and empowerment. Join Ian and Nique today for episodes of “The Invisible Men” every week as they hear the stories of incredible men and learn what advice they have for “Darryl” today!
Jorge Elorza: A Democrat’s Case for School Choice
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In this episode of The Invisible Men, Ian and Nique speak with Jorge Elorza, former mayor of Providence and CEO of Democrats for Education Reform. Jorge shares his evolution from traditional Democrat to school choice advocate, explains the promise of a new federal education tax credit, and unpacks why many in his party resist reform. He calls for a cultural shift in Democratic politics—toward empowerment, agency, and opportunity for all kids.
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Derrell Bradford: How a Tax Credit Could Transform School Access
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In this episode of The Invisible Men, Ian and Nique speak with Derrell Bradford, President of 50CAN, about a game-changing federal tax credit bill that could reshape American education. They discuss how the program would allow families—especially low-income ones—to use privately funded scholarships for things like private school tuition, SAT prep, or tutoring. Bradford explores the political divide, pushback from teachers unions, and why some governors may opt out, even if it means losing out on resources. He emphasizes that this isn't a future idea—it’s already underway, with families across party lines taking part. The episode closes with powerful advice to young people: let others help you, and know that your success fuels more than just your own dreams.
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Gianno Caldwell: From Grief to Grit—A Fight for Safer Streets
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In this episode of The Invisible Men, Ian and Nique speak with political analyst and advocate Gianno Caldwell about the personal and political dimensions of urban violence, broken families, and misguided public policy. Caldwell shares the tragic story of his younger brother’s murder in Chicago and reflects on growing up amid poverty, fatherlessness, and crime—conditions he argues are worsened by progressive policies masked as social justice. The conversation explores the impact of soft-on-crime legislation, declining faith, and disempowering education systems, while emphasizing the need for strong mentorship, spiritual grounding, and community action. Caldwell also introduces his work through the Caldwell Institute for Public Safety, calling for public engagement and leadership committed to real reform and accountability.
Check out Caldwell’s powerful memoir, The Day My Brother Was Murdered: My Journey Through America's Violent Crime Crisis.
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Andre Fowlkes: From Credentials to Community—A Holistic Approach to Talent
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In this episode of the Invisible Men, Ian speaks with Andre Fowlkes, co-founder and president of Start Co., about what it really takes for young people—especially in underserved communities—to succeed. Andre introduces the concept of the “social envelope,” a holistic framework that includes not just skills and credentials, but also social capital, support systems, and exposure to opportunity-rich environments.
He emphasizes that learning should be continuous, not a one-time event, and explores how peer learning, mentorship, innovation, and entrepreneurship can empower youth to solve problems and navigate systems that often work against them. Andre highlights the value of investing in people, expanding one’s worldview, and playing the long game—calling for a new approach to supporting the next generation with more than just programs, but with real purpose and connection.
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Thomas Chatterton Williams: Rejecting the Black-White Binary
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In this episode of the Invisible Men, Ian and Nique engage in a conversation with author Thomas Chatterton Williams about race, identity, and the complexities of navigating a mixed-race background. Williams shares his personal experiences growing up with a black father and a white mother, exploring how these dynamics shaped his understanding of race and class. The discussion delves into the psychological impacts of racism, the challenges of racial authenticity, and the importance of unlearning societal stereotypes. Williams emphasizes the need to reject the black-white binary and highlights misconceptions that exist between races, advocating for a more nuanced understanding of identity that transcends simplistic categorizations.
Moreover, they explore the relevance of skin color in society, the impact of racial categories on education and achievement gaps, and the importance of influential figures in the civil rights movement. They discuss the complexities of multiculturalism, the need for a focus on individual merit over racial identity, and the challenges faced by the next generation. Williams shares personal anecdotes and advice for young people navigating societal expectations and inequalities, emphasizing the importance of hard work and intellectual achievement.
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Ian and Nique: College, Merit, and the Road Less Traveled
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In this episode, Ian and Nique discuss the evolving landscape of higher education, discussing the shifting dynamics of college admissions, meritocracy, and the challenges students face today. They reflect on the complex and often frustrating process of applying to colleges, particularly the pressures placed on students by restrictive admissions policies. The conversation then shifts to a broader critique of college culture, questioning the necessity of a traditional college degree, and exploring alternative paths to success. With a focus on new educational models like the University of Austin, they examine how merit, critical thinking, and the ability to handle divergent opinions could reshape the future of education.
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Dumisani Washington: Black Excellence and Solidarity with Israel | THE INVISIBLE MEN
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Ian and Nique are joined by Dumisani Washington to discuss the historical and ongoing challenges of racial integration, education, and black self-determination. Dumisani shares insights from his upbringing, emphasizing black excellence and the effects of integration on black institutions, and reflects on how his name change and spiritual journey led to the creation of the Institute for Black Solidarity with Israel. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding black history, the strength of family, and the need for continued solidarity between black and Jewish communities, exploring the intersections of identity, faith, history, and resilience.
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Ian Rowe and Nique Fajors: Moynihan at 60
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In this conversation, Ian and Nique delve into the historical context and contemporary implications of the Moynihan Report, discussing the decline of family structure in the black community and its impact on community cohesion, life outcomes, and neighborhood life. They explore the media's role in sensationalizing the report, personal narratives surrounding family dynamics, and the importance of education and empowerment in addressing these challenges. The discussion emphasizes the need for honest conversations about family structure and the potential pathways to success for young people.
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Clifton Duncan’s One Man Show
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In this episode of the Invisible Men, Ian engages in a deep conversation with Clifton Duncan, a classically trained actor and playwright. They explore Clifton’s unique upbringing across different cultures, his journey of racial awareness, and the complexities of navigating identity within the acting community. Clifton shares his experiences in theater, the impact of racial dynamics, and a pivotal moment that shifted his perspective on race. The discussion culminates in a reflection on liberation from societal constraints and the importance of seeing oneself beyond racial identity.
Duncan discusses the profound influence of Thomas Sowell on his life and work, particularly in the context of creating a one-man show about Sowell. They explore Sowell’s journey from a high school dropout to a revered economist and intellectual, emphasizing the importance of culture, personal responsibility, and the need for evidence-based thinking. Duncan shares insights on how Sowell’s ideas can empower the next generation, encouraging young people to think for themselves and not be constrained by societal narratives.
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Ian Rowe and Nique Fajors: DEI’s Out. MEI’s In?
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In this episode, Nique and Ian discuss Harvard economist Roland Fryer’s proposal to transition from Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) to Merit, Excellence, and Intelligence (MEI) in corporate and educational contexts. They explore the implications of this shift, the challenges posed by current educational disparities, and the importance of merit in creating opportunities. The conversation highlights the performative nature of DEI initiatives and the need for a more honest dialogue about the root causes of inequality. Ultimately, they advocate for a focus on merit as a means to achieve true diversity and excellence in society.
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Devon Westhill: Equality Doesn’t Equal Equity | THE INVISIBLE MEN
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In this episode of the Invisible Men, Ian and Nique engage with Devon Westhill, president of the Center for Equal Opportunity, discussing his personal journey growing up as a mixed-race child in the South, the dynamics of race and education, the role of single mothers, and the importance of social safety nets. The conversation also delves into the distinction between equal opportunity and equity in today's society, emphasizing the need for character-based judgment over race-based outcomes.
Devon discusses the complexities of racial representation in corporate America, the shifting dynamics of equity and inclusion, and the potential impact of AI on the legal profession. He reflects on cultural changes in sports, the implications of recent Supreme Court decisions on education, and offers advice to the younger generation about authenticity and opportunity.
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Darius Jones: Race and Empowerment
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In this episode of the Invisible Men, Ian Rowe and Nique Fajors engage in a deep conversation with Darius Jones, founder of the National Black Empowerment Council. Darius shares his upbringing in a family of educators involved in the civil rights movement, which shaped his understanding of race and empowerment. He discusses the importance of political engagement and the need for effective black leadership, emphasizing that not all leaders who share racial identity will prioritize the community's needs. The conversation also highlights the mission of the National Black Empowerment Council in fostering leadership and creating positive change at the municipal level, as well as the vital role of Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) in empowering black leaders.
Darius Jones discusses the backlash against diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives, the complexities surrounding identity and opportunity, and the importance of merit in the black community. He emphasizes the need for innovative strategies to navigate new opportunities and the significance of guarding one's mental space. Darius also shares insights on influential figures in the black community and offers advice for the next generation, highlighting the power of thoughts in shaping reality.
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Revitalizing North Tulsa
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Philip Abode, the lead pastor of Crossover Bible Church and executive director of Crossover Preparatory Academy, joins Ian and Nique to discuss his life journey, the role that faith played in his upbringing, and his work to promote North Tulsa’s flourishing. The conversation highlights the comprehensive community development initiatives he and his colleagues have implemented, including youth sports programs, educational institutions, and healthcare services, all aimed at restoring and empowering their community. He also highlights the need for empowerment through education and development, sharing insights on the rituals and culture established at Crossover.
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From DEI Chief to DEI Critic
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Erec Smith, a research fellow at the Cato Institute, joins Ian and Nique to discuss his life journey, “wokeism,” and the effects and future of DEI initiatives. Erec shares his experiences as a chief diversity officer and critiques the current state of DEI, arguing that it has strayed from its original purpose. The conversation delves into the challenges and opportunities facing DEI in the future, as well as the complex relationship between freedom and racism in the black community.
He also discusses his resignation from academia due to the challenges posed by the prevailing woke culture. He emphasizes the importance of agency and self-reliance, arguing against the victim narrative often promoted in academic circles. Smith expresses optimism about shifts in corporate America and the need for mentorship programs that truly support diverse individuals. He advocates for a rethinking of diversity and inclusion initiatives, suggesting a focus on racelessness and individual agency instead.
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Michael Bowen: Championing Intellectual Diversity Within the Black Community
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Michael Bowen, a founding member of Free Black Thought, joins Ian and Nique to discuss themes ranging from race, identity, and the important intellectual diversity within the black community. The conversation delves into Michael's early awareness of race, the cultural significance of jazz and the Black Arts Movement, his experiences in college and fraternity life, the role of black engineers, educational disparities, and the founding of Free Black Thought, which challenges prevailing narratives about race and achievement.
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Sarah and Bruce Bond: Father-Daughter Success Story
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Sarah Bond, the president of Xbox, and Bruce Bond, her father, join Ian and Nique to discuss their relationship, lessons learned from their lives and careers, and their experience of race in America.
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Bob Woodson: Civil Rights Icon
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Bob Woodson, founder of the Woodson Center, joins Ian and Nique to discuss his career, the future and history of the civil rights movement, and how to promote equal opportunity for all Americans.
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Irvin Scott on the importance of faith and fatherhood
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This week, Ian and Nique are joined by Dr. Irvin Scott – director of the Leadership Institute for Faith and Education at Harvard University and former deputy director for K-12 education at the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, with over twenty years of experience working as a teacher, principal, assistant superintendent, and chief academic officer. Dr. Scott describes the core elements of what it means to raise three African-American boys: Bibles, books, and balls – all of which transcend race and help affirm one’s place in the world.
Dr. Scott believes fatherhood is critical to human flourishing and explains that policymakers need to address what is causing the absences of fathers, particularly in African-American communities. Watch the full episode to hear the impact that a ninth-grade English assignment had on his academic development and to hear his words of advice to “Darryl.”
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Shelby Steele on the powerful influence of white guilt
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In this episode, Ian and Nique are joined by Shelby Steele – author, columnist, documentary maker, and Senior Fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution. Shelby shares how growing up in the milieu of the civil rights movement caused him to be intellectually engrossed in debates about race and America from an early age. His father, despite lacking even a high education himself, pushed Shelby to believe that black people could overcome barriers and achieve great things in life with the right opportunities and the proper attitude.
Later, Shelby describes how white guilt – the idea that white people today are guilty of all past historical injustices – is the most powerful force in western culture. Watch the full episode to hear Shelby describe the impact this has on black America and to hear his words of advice to “Darryl.”
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Ian and Nique on the Olympics and the importance of high expectations
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In this special episode, Ian and Nique engage in a one-on-one conversation about key takeaways from the Tokyo Olympics. They also share their reaction to a recent bill signed by Oregon Governor Kate Brown that eliminates the need for students to test proficient in reading, writing, and math in order to graduate high school. Their discussion centers around “Darryl’s” likely reaction to both events. Watch the full episode to hear how Ian and Nique would explain these events to “Darryl.”
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