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The Path to Exit

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Learn what software and technology founders needs to know as they grow their business towards an eventual M&A transaction. In this podcast, Mike Lyon from Vista Point Advisors chats with tech founders and the VPA team to address questions like: - What is the process for selling a software or internet business? - What drives the valuation of a SaaS business? - What are my different transactions options? - And more. Subscribe to listen to new episodes released monthly. About VPAVista Point Advisors is a founder-focused investment bank that advises software & internet founders through M&A and capital raise transactions. We are a fully unconflicted investment bank who only works for founders on the sell-side, so you know that we’re always representing your interests. If you have any questions about the process of selling your business or raising capital, reach out to a member of our team. Or check out the For Founders section of our site by visiting https://vistapointadvisors.com/for-founders.

Learn what software and technology founders needs to know as they grow their business towards an eventual M&A transaction. In this podcast, Mike Lyon from Vista Point Advisors chats with tech founders and the VPA team to address questions like: - What is the process for selling a software or internet business? - What drives the valuation of a SaaS business? - What are my different transactions options? - And more. Subscribe to listen to new episodes released monthly. About VPAVista Point Advisors is a founder-focused investment bank that advises software & internet founders through M&A and capital raise transactions. We are a fully unconflicted investment bank who only works for founders on the sell-side, so you know that we’re always representing your interests. If you have any questions about the process of selling your business or raising capital, reach out to a member of our team. Or check out the For Founders section of our site by visiting https://vistapointadvisors.com/for-founders.

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39 | SaaSpocalypse? How AI Is Reshaping Software M&A

AI is reshaping what buyers and investors look for in software businesses faster than most founders realize, and many are still operating with an outdated playbook. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Jeff Koons break down what is driving the so-called SaaSpocalypse, why we think it is more of a market re-rating than a collapse, what criteria investors are now using to evaluate software companies, and what concrete steps founders can take right now to assess and help strengthen their position. Vista Point Advisors is a boutique sell-side investment bank providing unconflicted M&A and capital raising advice to founder-led software, AI, and internet businesses. We partner with entrepreneurs of growing businesses to help them understand their options in the marketplace so they can maximize business value, leverage their options, and realize their ideal outcomes.  Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments. 
Business and industry 1 month
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37 | Why Retention Is Now Driving Software Company Valuations

Retention is becoming an increasingly important factor in how software companies are valued, and many founders are not prepared for the level of scrutiny buyers are applying to these metrics. In this episode, managing director Mike Lyon and senior associate Sarabeth Sandweiss explain why retention has become a key valuation driver, how investors evaluate it, where founders often get the math wrong, and how they can help avoid diligence surprises while positioning your company for a stronger outcome. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 2 months
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36 | 2026 Software M&A Outlook: Valuations, Buyers, and What’s Changed

Software founders planning to exit or raise capital in 2026 need a clear read on where M&A is heading after a volatile few years. In this episode, Vista Point Advisors Managing Directors Mike Lyon and Jeff Koons unpack the most important 2025 trends and what founders could expect in 2026. From buyer behaviors to changes in vertical SaaS valuations, they offer a view of the market dynamics that can help software founders better understand their exit timing, deal structure, and negotiating leverage. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 4 months
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Ep 35 | Pitfalls to Avoid on the Path to an Exit (with Goldman Sachs)

Many founders wait for the “perfect moment” to sell or fixate on hitting a specific valuation target, but both can lead to missed opportunities. In this episode, Sarah Letourneau from Goldman Sachs joins Mike Lyon to discuss the most common mistakes they see founders make on the path to an exit; from waiting too long to run a process, to anchoring on a headline number, to assembling the wrong deal team. They share how to plan ahead, build the right advisors around you, and make informed decisions that support both your transaction and your life after the deal. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 5 months
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34 | Assembling Your Software M&A Dream Team

Software founders often underestimate who needs to be involved to successfully sell their business or raise capital, and how much value the right team can add. In this episode, Managing Directors Mike Lyon and Mike Greco walk through the key people founders should have on their side, and how assembling the right team early can make the entire transaction smoother and more successful. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 6 months
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33 | The Do's & Don'ts of Hiring an Investment Bank When Selling Your Business

When founders set out to sell their business, many underestimate how important it is to choose the right investment bank, and how costly it can be to get it wrong. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Miles Lacey break down what founders should and shouldn’t do when evaluating banks, negotiating fees, and determining the best time to hire, so you can run a competitive process and achieve a better outcome. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 7 months
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32 | How to Navigate Exclusivity When Selling Your Business

When founders lack experience in selling a business, they’ll often accept what buyers lead with, especially the demand for an exclusivity period. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Jeff Bean break down why buyers push for exclusivity, the real motivations behind their request, and how to navigate the conversation in a way that preserves your leverage throughout the negotiation. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 8 months
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31 | The Hidden Risks of Minority Investments for SaaS Founders

SaaS founders often lean toward pursuing a minority deal when looking to raise capital because they believe it means they can maintain control of the business and take advantage of current growth and future upside in their equity ownership, but it’s not that simple. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Scott Austin unpack the common misconceptions founders have about minority deals, why they often come with more strings attached than expected, and how founders can help set themselves up for a better eventual exit. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 9 months
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30 | How to Help Prevent a Retrade When Selling Your Business

Retrades are when a buyer or investor tries to renegotiate the valuation price or key terms after a deal is agreed—and it’s always to the founder’s disadvantage. It’s one of the most frustrating risks in M&A, often surfacing late in the process, when founders have already invested significant time, energy, and focus into a buyer. In this episode, Managing Directors Mike Lyon and Jeff Koons break down why retrades happen, what they look like in practice, and most importantly, how founders can help guard against them. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 10 months
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29 | How PE Fund & Partner Dynamics Impact Their Bids for Your Business

Understanding the internal dynamics of a PE fund—such as where it is in its lifecycle, who is championing the deal, and how decisions are made—is critical for evaluating the strength and seriousness of their bid for your business. The most attractive buyer on paper may be structurally incapable of closing a deal due to internal constraints. In this episode, Managing Directors Mike Lyon and Mike Greco discuss how private equity fund dynamics can impact the quality of their bid—from how serious it is, to its structure, to the risk of closing. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 11 months
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28 | Why Sell Your SaaS Business When You’re Winning?

Why would a founder sell their business while it’s thriving? It’s a question we hear often—and what we call the “entrepreneur’s dilemma.” In this episode, Managing Directors Mike Lyon and Jeff Bean unpack why selling during a growth phase, though counterintuitive, can lead to better outcomes. They discuss how buyers value momentum, the risks of holding on too long, and how founders can maximize value by leaning into growth. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 1 year
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27 | How to Prepare to Sell Your Company

To make a strong impression on the right buyers and avoid unnecessary complications when selling your business, it’s essential to have everything in order before going to market. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Miles Lacey discuss key considerations for founders and what you should have in place before launching a sales process. This material is intended for informational purposes and is not intended to provide investment advice or a recommendation. The opinions voiced should not be construed as legal or tax advice and is not intended to replace the advice of a qualified attorney, accountant, and/or tax advisor. Vista Point Advisors does not provide tax or legal advice.   Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 1 year
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26 | GTM Practices for SaaS Growth & Exit Outcomes (with Ryan Allis, SaasRise)

Many SaaS founders struggle with go-to-market (GTM) strategy, often underestimating how it impacts valuation and exit potential. In this episode, growth expert Ryan Allis—Founder of iContact and SaasRise—joins Mike Lyon to break down some key GTM tactics that SaaS companies can use that may help to accelerate growth, avoid plateaus, and position themselves for high-multiple exits. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 1 year
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25 | Harnessing AI for Founder-Led Businesses (with Ardis Kadiu, Element451)

AI is transforming vertical SaaS, but many founders are unsure how to approach it. In this episode, Ardis Kadiu—Founder and CEO of Element451, an AI-powered student engagement platform—joins Mike Lyon to share how his team successfully integrated AI, the impact it had on growth, and key insights for SaaS founders looking to leverage AI in their own solutions. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 1 year
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24 | The Subjectivity of Valuation in SaaS M&A

Many SaaS founders view valuation as a straightforward calculation of their company's worth, but it’s far more nuanced. Software valuation often depends on the perspectives of individual buyers, leading to significantly different outcomes. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Scott Austin explore why valuation in SaaS M&A is inherently subjective, how different buyers assess value differently, and what this means for founders navigating the sale of their business. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 1 year
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23 | Strategies for Selling Your SaaS Company to a Competitor

Founders are often hesitant to include competitors in the process when looking to sell their business. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Jeff Koons discuss some key strategies for assessing the risks and rewards of including competitors in the deal process, as well as how to protect yourself and your company along the way. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
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22 | Balancing SaaS Growth: Upselling vs. New Customer Acquisition vs. Pricing

There are three primary vectors SaaS founders use to grow their business: upselling to existing customers, acquiring new customers, and raising prices. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Mike Greco discuss the pros and cons of each, particularly through the lens of raising capital or selling your business. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 1 year
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21 | How to Structure & Manage a SaaS Board of Directors

SaaS founders often have a love-hate relationship with their boards of directors, finding them alternatively invaluable or frustrating. Creating and managing a cohesive, effective board can be a daunting task. In this episode, Sterling Lanier—recurrent board member and co-founder—joins Mike Lyon to share insights on how SaaS founders can help build and lead a high-performing board of directors, ensuring alignment and effectiveness for the company’s growth. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 1 year
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20 | Understanding SaaS FinTech & Payments Opportunities with Utopaya

A significant trend SaaS founders are facing is integrating fintech products into vertical businesses, particularly payments. In this episode, Brian Abernethy from Utopaya joins Mike Lyon to discuss considerations for founders thinking about the payments opportunity, when to pursue it or not, and why it’s valuable to private equity firms and buyers.  Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 1 year
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Episode 19 | 7 Questions Founders Should Ask PE Firms

Interest from private equity firms can be flattering, but founders need to understand that not every PE firm will be a good fit for your company. Founders need to discover the true dynamics of the fund, particularly when considering the long-term relationship. In this episode, managing directors Mike Lyon and Jeff Bean outline what questions you should ask a PE firm to understand if they're a good fit for you. Securities offered through Vista Point Advisors, member FINRA/SIPC. This has been provided for informational purposes only and should not be considered as investment advice or a recommendation. It is not intended to address all circumstances that might arise. The views expressed herein may change at any time subsequent to the date of issue. Opinions contained herein should not be interpreted as a guarantee of future results. Outcomes will vary depending on individual circumstances. Any examples used in this material are generic, hypothetical and for illustration purposes only. Testimonials from past clients may not be representative of the experience of other clients and there is no guarantee of future performance or success. Clients are not compensated for their comments.
Business and industry 1 year
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