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The Practice of the Practice Podcast: Counseling |
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The Practice of the Practice Podcast: Counseling |

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Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You'll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.

Business growth meets the cutting edge of psychology. This podcast is for psychologists, therapists, counselors, coaches, and wellness professionals. It explores modern psychology and how it connects to building a thriving practice. Hosted by consultant and author Joe Sanok, it features conversations with leading academics, psychologists, business leaders, and mental health experts. Topics include psychedelic-assisted therapy, mindfulness, CBT, ACT, peak performance, and the future of mental health care. You'll also hear clear strategies for marketing, streamlining your business, and scaling your private practice without burnout. Whether you want to sharpen your clinical skills, expand your perspective, or grow your impact, this podcast keeps you at the leading edge of mental health and practice growth.

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Implementing the Mental State of the World Report in Your Practice with Dr. Tara Thiagarajan | POP 1401

How does your environment shape your mental health more than you realize? Why do stronger relationships matter more than a bigger paycheck? Are we treating symptoms while overlooking the bigger picture? In this podcast, Joe Sanok sits down with Dr. Tara Thiagarajan to explore the findings of the Mental State of the World Report and what they mean for therapists and private practice owners. Dr. Thiagarajan explains how the Mental Health Quotient (MHQ) measures wellbeing across populations, why environmental factors such as social connection, smartphone use, and nutrition have a profound impact on mental health, and what the latest global research reveals about the decline in mental wellbeing. Together, they discuss how therapists can look beyond symptoms to better understand the broader societal influences shaping their clients' mental health.
Personal development 4 days
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31:51

Should You Niche Down to a Specialty Practice? | POP 1400

Could niching down actually help your practice grow? Does specializing allow you to make a bigger impact, not a smaller one? How do you know when it's the right time to become a specialty practice? In this episode, Melissa Schneider sits down with Kelsey Blahnik to explore whether niching down into a specialty practice is the right move for therapists. They discuss Kelsey's journey from running a general private practice to building a thriving OCD-focused group practice, the role of psychological flexibility in both therapy and business, and why specialization can lead to better client outcomes. They also share practical advice on knowing when to niche down, identifying the needs of your community, and building a practice that grows through purpose rather than trying to serve everyone.
Personal development 5 days
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Is DEI Dead? with Melinda Briana Epler - PoP 1399

What does it actually look like to be an inclusive leader? How can you realistically, practically, and genuinely "do the work" in a way that uplifts those around you? What is good allyship? In this episode, Joe Sanok speaks with Melinda Briana Epler about the future of diversity, equity, and inclusion and what it means to lead inclusively in private practice. Melinda explains the importance of decentering one's own experiences, recognizing personal biases, and moving beyond performative gestures to create genuine belonging. She outlines practical ways practitioners can "do the work" through continuous learning, reflection, and action, while highlighting empathy, listening, and accountability as the foundations of effective allyship. The conversation concludes with practical questions for practice owners to assess how inclusive their businesses truly are and how they can better serve both their teams and clients.
Personal development 6 days
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How to Build a Boring Private Practice without Slimey Marketing with Maggie Patterson | POP 1398

Does marketing have to feel uncomfortable to be effective? What if authenticity is your greatest marketing strategy? Why could a "boring" business be your most successful one? Joe Sanok sits down with Maggie Patterson to explore how private practice owners can market their businesses without compromising their values. They discuss the pitfalls of manipulative online marketing, why authenticity builds stronger client relationships, and how therapists can communicate their expertise with confidence. Maggie also shares practical advice for creating a sustainable business by focusing on what works, avoiding unnecessary complexity, and making it easy for the right clients to find and trust you.
Personal development 1 week
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Referrals: How Community Health Centers Can Grow Your Practice with Jill Steeley, MPH | POP 1397

What if your strongest referral partner is already in your community? Is your client experience transformational, or transactional? How could stronger community partnerships improve client care? In this episode, Joe Sanok is joined by healthcare executive and leadership coach Jill Steeley to explore how private practitioners can build stronger community partnerships and create a more transformational client experience. Jill explains what federally qualified health centers (FQHCs) are, how they support underserved communities, and why they can become valuable referral partners for private practices. Together, they discuss the difference between transactional and transformational care, the importance of anticipating client needs and maintaining meaningful communication throughout the care journey, and how collaborating with community health centers can improve outcomes for clients while strengthening your practice. Jill also shares practical encouragement for clinicians, reminding them to identify what's holding them back and focus on building a sustainable, community-centered practice.
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How Daily Habits Shape Your Brain with Thoryn Stephens | POP 1396

Are you aware that your daily habits are training your brain - the good and the bad? What if your brain could change for the better? Where do you start to take great care of your body and brain to make changing your life easier? In this episode, Joe Sanok sits down with Thoryn Stephens to explore how neuroplasticity allows our brains to adapt and change throughout our lives. They discuss simple, science-backed habits that support better brain health, why small daily behaviors matter more than expensive supplements, and practical ways to optimize your mind and body for long-term well-being.
Personal development 2 weeks
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Growing by 100% in the Next Year: Should I Start a Group Practice? with Joe Sanok - PoP 1395

Could doubling your practice be more achievable than you think? Which growth strategy would have the biggest impact on your business right now? Are you building a practice that depends entirely on you, or one that can grow beyond you? *]:pointer-events-auto R6Vx5W_threadScrollVars scroll-mb-[calc(var(--scroll-root-safe-area-inset-bottom,0px)+var(--thread-response-height))] scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" data-turn-id= "request-WEB:241ee231-1c7a-4091-a64c-f3b9c9a7f832-1" data-turn-id-container= "request-WEB:241ee231-1c7a-4091-a64c-f3b9c9a7f832-1" data-testid= "conversation-turn-2" data-turn="assistant"> Joe Sanok explores whether starting a group practice is the fastest path to growing a private practice and explains why aiming to double your business can be both realistic and impactful. He shares practical strategies for increasing revenue, from raising rates and seeing more clients to creating passive income, while highlighting hiring clinicians as the quickest way to scale. Joe also breaks down the key systems for attracting and converting new clients, discusses ethical ways to gather reviews and feedback, and encourages practice owners to find the right support system so they can grow with confidence rather than figuring it all out alone.
Personal development 2 weeks
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PoP 1394 - Building Great Lakes Online Counseling Week 22 with Joe Sanok

PoP 1394 - Building Great Lakes Online Counseling Week 22 with Joe Sanok
Personal development 3 weeks
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PoP 1393 - How to Convert More Clients Through Your Website with Shayah Reed

PoP 1393 - How to Convert More Clients Through Your Website with Shayah Reed
Personal development 3 weeks
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PoP 1392 - Psilocybin for Treatment Resistent Depression with Kabir Nath

PoP 1392 - Psilocybin for Treatment Resistent Depression with Kabir Nath
Personal development 1 month
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PoP 1391 - Building Great Lakes Online Counseling Week 21 with Joe Sanok

PoP 1391 - Building Great Lakes Online Counseling Week 21 with Joe Sanok
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PoP 1390 - What We Get Wrong with Self Care with Shaina Siber

PoP 1390 - What We Get Wrong with Self Care with Shaina Siber
Personal development 1 month
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What 245,000 Therapists Reveal About Building a Successful Private Practice with Dr. Lindsay Oberleitner | POP 1389

What 245,000 Therapists Reveal About Building a Successful Private Practice with Dr. Lindsay Oberleitner | POP 1389
Personal development 1 month
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PoP 1388 - Building Great Lakes Online Counseling Week 20 with Joe Sanok

PoP 1388 - Building Great Lakes Online Counseling Week 20 with Joe Sanok
Personal development 1 month
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PoP 1387 - What You Get Wrong About Productivity and Intention with bestselling author Chris Bailey

PoP 1387 - What You Get Wrong About Productivity and Intention with bestselling author Chris Bailey
Personal development 1 month
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PoP 1386 - Becoming a Teaching Group Practice with Sabrina Rogers

PoP 1386 - Becoming a Teaching Group Practice with Sabrina Rogers
Personal development 1 month
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PoP 1385 - Befriending Your Inner Critic with Emily Pagone, LCPC

PoP 1385 - Befriending Your Inner Critic with Emily Pagone, LCPC
Personal development 1 month
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PoP 1384 - Building Great Lakes Online Counseling Week 19 with Joe Sanok

PoP 1384 - Building Great Lakes Online Counseling Week 19 with Joe Sanok
Personal development 1 month
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PoP 1383 - Psychedelics and Therapy with Kate Kincaid

PoP 1383 - Psychedelics and Therapy with Kate Kincaid
Personal development 2 months
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PoP 1382 - Building Great Lakes Online Counseling Week 18 with Joe Sanok

PoP 1382 - Building Great Lakes Online Counseling Week 18 with Joe Sanok
Personal development 2 months
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