True Crime Review

Welcome to Episode 14 of the True Crime Review Podcast. This is a True Crime Audio episode, presenting primary source audio (complete with full transcript below) from the trial of Dennis Lynn Rader, who called himself BTK, which stands for “bind, torture, kill.” This episode is actually the first of a two-part series on B.T.K. and presents his court room confession. The next episode, episode 15, will be a standard episode including news updates and a cold case. Episode 16, our next True Crime Audio episode, will include Rader’s own sentencing mitigation statement and, most importantly, several victim impact statements read aloud in court, in Rader’s presence, by the people whose lives were affected by Rader’s evil. We go now to the June 27, 2005 confession of Dennis Rader, a.k.a. B.T.K. [ audio ] This has been Episode 14 of the True Crime Review Podcast. This was part one of a two part True Crime Audio series about Dennis Rader, a.k.a. BTK. This episode was the killer’s court room confession. The next True Crime Audio installment of the True Crime Review Podcast will be Episode 16. It will include Rader’s sentencing mitigation statement and, most importantly, several victim impact statements made in court by those affected by the evil serial killer’s homicidal acts. The following is a transcript from the court proceeding which occurred on June 27, 2005 in the Eighteenth Judicial District Court, Sedgwick County, Kansas, Docket Number 05-CR498. In the Eighteenth Judicial District District Court, Sedgwick County, Kansas Criminal Department Case No. 05 – CR498 Transcript of Pleas of Guilty Proceedings had before the Honorable Gregory L. Waller, Judge of Division 5 of the Eighteenth Judicial Districtof Kansas, on June 27, 2005. Murder of the Otero Family The Defendant: On January 15th, 1974, I maliciously, intentionally and premeditation killed Joseph Otero. Count Two – The Court: All right. Mr. Rader, I need to find out more information. On that particular day, the 15th day of January, 1974, can you tell me where you went to kill Mr. Joseph Otero? The Defendant: Mmm, I think it’s 1834 Edgemoor. The Court: All right. Can you tell me approximately what time of day you went there? The Defendant: Somewhere between 7:00 and 7:30. The Court: This particular location, did you know these people? The Defendant: No. That’s – (Off-the-record discussion between the defendant and Ms. McKinnon.) No, that was part of my – I guess my what you call fantasy. These people were selected. The Court: All right. So you — (Off-the-record discussion between the defendant and Ms. McKinnon.) The Court: — you were engaged in some kind of fantasy during this period of time? The Defendant: Yes, sir. The Court: All right. Now, where you use the term “fantasy,” is this something you were doing for your personal pleasure? The Defendant: Sexual fantasy, sir. The Court: I see. So you went to this residence, and what occurred then? The Defendant: Well, I had – did some thinking on what I was going to do to either Mrs. Otero or Josephine, and basically broke into the house –or didn’t break into the house, but when they came out of the house I came in and confronted the family, and then we went from there. The Court: All right. Had you planned this beforehand? The Defendant: To some degree, yes. After I got in the house it – lost control of it, but it – it was – you know, in back of my mind I had some ideas what I was going to do. The Court: Did you – The Defendant: But I just – I basically panicked that first day, so – The Court: Beforehand did you know who was there in the house? The Defendant: I thought Mrs. Otero and the two kids – the two younger kids were in the house. I didn’t realize Mr. Otero was gonna be there. The Court: All right. How did you get into the house, Mr. Rader? The Defendant: I came through the back door, cut the phone lines, waited at the back door, had reservations about even going or just walking away, but pretty soon the door opened, and I was in. The Court: All right. So the door opened. Was it opened for you, or did someone – The Defendant: I think one of the kids – I think the Ju – Junior – or not Junior – yes, the – the young girl – Joseph opened the door. He probably let the dog out ‘cause the dog was in the house at the time. The Court: All right. When you went into the house what happened then? The Defendant: Well, I confronted the family, pulled the pistol, confronted Mr. Otero and asked him to – you know, that I was there to — basically I was wanted, wanted to get the car. I was hungry, food, I was wanted, and asked him to lie down in the living room. And at that time I realized that wouldn’t be a really good idea, so I finally – The dog was the real problem, so I – I asked Mr. Otero if he could get the dog out. So he had one of the kids put it out, and then I took them back to the bedroom. The Court: You took who back to the bedroom? The Defendant: The family, the bedroom – the four members. The Court: All right. What happened then? The Defendant: At that time I tied ‘em up. The Court: While still holding them at gunpoint? The Defendant: Well, in between tying, I guess, you know. The Court: All right. After you tied them up what occurred? The Defendant: Well, they started complaining about being tied up, and I re – re-loosened the bonds a couple of times, tried to make Mr. Otero as comfortable as I could. Apparently he had a cracked rib from a car accident, so I had him put a pillow down on his – for his – for his head, had him put a – I think a parka or a coat underneath him. They – You know, they talked to me about, you know, giving the car whatever money. I guess they didn’t have very much money, and the – from there I realized that, you know, I was already – I didn’t have a mask on or anything. They already could ID me, and made – made a decision to go ahead and – and put ‘em down, I guess or strangle them. The Court: All right. What did you do to Joseph Otero, Sr.? The Defendant: Joseph Otero? The Court: Yeah, Joseph Otero, Sr. Mr. Otero, the father. The Defendant: Put a plastic bag over his head and then some cords and tightened it. The Court: This was in the bedroom? The Defendant: Yes, sir. The Court: All right. Did he in fact suffocate and die as a result of this? The Defendant: Not right away, no sir, he didn’t. The Court: What happened? The Defendant: Well, after that I – I did Mrs. Otero. I had never strangled anyone before, so I really didn’t know how much pressure you had to put on a person or how long it would take, but – The Court: Was she also tied up there in the bedroom? The Defendant: Yes, uh-huh. Yeah, both their hands and their feet were tied up. She was on the bed. The Court: Where were the children? The Defendant: Well, Josephine was on the bed, and Junior was on the floor – The Court: All right. The Defendant: — at this time. The Court: So we’re – we’re talking, first of all, about Joseph Otero. So you had put the bag over his head and tied it. The Defendant: Mm-hmm. The Court: And he did not die right away. Can you tell me what happened in regards to Joseph Otero? The Defendant: He moved over real quick like and I think tore a hole in the bag, and I could tell that he was having some problems there, but at that time the – the whole family just went – they went panicked on me, so I – I – I worked pretty quick. I got Mrs. O – The Court: All right. What did you – You worked pretty quick. What did you do? The Defendant: Well, I mean, I – I – I strangled Mrs. Otero, and then she out, or passed out. I thought she was dead. She passed out. Then I strangled Josephine. She passed out, or I thought she was dead. And then I went over and put a – and then put a bag on Junior’s head and – and then, if I remember right, Mrs. Otero came back. She came back and – The Court: Sir, let me ask you about Joseph Otero, Sr. The Defendant: Senior The Court: You indicated he had torn a hole in the bag. The Defendant: Mm-hmm. The Court: What did you do with him then? The Defendant: I put another bag over it – or either that or a – if I recollect, I think I put a – either a cloth or a T-shirt or something over it – over his head, and then a bag, another bag, then tied that down. The Court: Did he sub – Did he subsequently die? The Defendant: Well, yes. I mean – I mean, I was – I didn’t just stay there and watch him. I mean, I was moving around the room, but – The Court: All right. So you indicated you strangled Mrs. Otero after you had done this; is that correct? The Defendant: Yeah, I went back and strangled her again. The Court: All right. The Defendant: And that – And that – that finally killed her at that time. The Court: So this is in regards to Count Two. You had, first of all, put the bag over Joseph Otero’s head. The Defendant: I don’t know. I have no idea. Just – The Court: What happened then? The Defendant: I got the keys to the car. In fact, I had the keys I think earlier before that, ‘cause I wanted to make sure I had a way of getting out of the house, and cleaned the house up a little bit, made sure everything’s packed up, and left through the front door, and then went there — went over to their car, and then drove to Dillions, left the car there. Then eventually walked back to my car. The Court: All right. Now, sir, from what you have just said, I take it that the facts you have told me apply to both Counts One all of Counts One, Two, Three, and Four; is that correct? The Defendant: Yes, sir. The Court: Now, Mr. Rader – Ms. Parker: Your Honor? The Court: Yes. Ms. Parker: There is one thing that needs to be corrected on that record and that is originally I believe he indicated 1834 Edgemoor. The address was actually 803 Edgemoor. The Court: All right. But I’d asked him if it occurred in Sedgwick County. He’s indicated what had happened. I don’t believe the exact address is important. (Off-the-record discussions between Mr. Osburn and the defendant.) Murder of Kathryn Bright The Court: All right, Mr. Rader. We will now turn to Count Five. In that count it is claimed that on or about the 4th day of April, 1974, in Sedgwick County, Kansas, that you unlawfully killed Kathryn Bright, maliciously, willfully, deliberately and with premeditation, by strangulation and stabbing, inflicting injuries from which she did die on April 4th, 1974. Can you tell me what happened on that day? (Off-the-record discussions between Mr. Osburn and the defendant.) The Defendant: Well, the – I don’t know how to exactly say that. I had many what I call them projects. They were different people in town that I followed, watched. Kathryn Bright was one of the next targets, I guess, as I would indicate. The Court: How did you select her? The Defendant: Just driving by one day, and I saw her go in the house with somebody else, and I thought that’s a possibility. There was many, many places in the area, College Hill even. They’re all over Wichita. But anyway, that’s – it just was basically a selection process, worked toward it. If it didn’t work I’d just move on to something else, but in the – in the – my kind of person, stalking and strolling (sic) – You go through the trolling stage and then a stalking stage. She was in the stalking stage when this happened. The Court: All right, sir. So you identified Kathryn Bright as a potential victim. The Defendant: Yes, sir. The Court: What did you do here in Sedgwick County then? The Defendant: Pardon? The Court: What did you do then here in Sedgwick County? The Defendant: On this particular day? The Court: Yes. The Defendant: I broke into the house and waited for her to come home. The Court: How did you break into the house? The Defendant: Through the back door on the east side. The Court: All right. And you waited for her to come home. The Defendant: Yes, sir. The Court: Where did you wait? The Defendant: In the house there, probably close to the bedroom. I walked through the house and kind of figured out where I’d be if they came through. The Court: All right. What happened then? The Defendant: She and Kevin Bright came in. I wasn’t expecting him to be there. And come to find out, I guess they were related. That time I approached them and told them I was wanted in California, needed some car – basically the same thing I told the Oteros. Kind of eased them, make them feel better, and proceeded to – I think I had him tie – I think I had him tie her up first, and then I tied him up, or vice versa. I don’t remember right now at that time. The Court: Let – Let me ask – The Defendant: Mm-hmm. The Court: You indicated that you had some items to tie these people with. Did you bring these items, both the Oteros and to this location? The Defendant: The Oteros I did. I’m not really sure on the Brights. There were some – I – When I had – In working with the police there was some conserversy (sic) on that. Probably more likely I did, but if – if I had brought my stuff and used my stuff Kevin would probably be dead today. The Court: All right. The Defendant: I’m not bragging on that. It’s just a matter of fact. It’s the bond had tau – row (sic) – tied him up with that he broke them, so that – The Court: All right, sir. The Defendant: It may be same way with — same with Kathryn. It was — They got outta – got outta hand. The Court: All right. Now, you indicated you believe you had Kevin tie Kathryn up. The Defendant: Mm-hmm. The Court: Tell me what happened then. The Defendant: Okay. I moved – Well, after – I really can’t remember, Judge, whether I had her tie him up or she tied him up; but anyway, I moved basically I moved her to another bedroom, and he as already secure there by the bed. Tied his feet to the bed post – one of the bedposts so that he couldn’t run. Kind of tired her in the other bedroom, and then I came back to strangle him, and at that time we had a fight. The Court: Were you armed with a handgun at that time also? The Defendant: Yes, I had a handgun. The Court: All right. What happened when you came back. The Defendant: I actually had two handguns. The Court: All right. The Defendant: Well, when I started strangling, the – either the garrote broke or he broke his bonds, and he jumped up real quick like. I pulled my gun and quickly shot him. It hit him in the head. He fell over. I could see the blood. And as far as I was concerned, he – you know, I thought he was down and was out, and then went and started to strangle Kath – or Kathryn. And then we started fighting, ‘cause the bonds weren’t very good, and so back and forth we fought. The Court: You and Kathryn? The Defendant: Yeah, we fought, uh-huh. And I got the best of her, and I thought she was going down, and then I could hear some movement in the other room. So I went back, and Kevin – No. No. I thought she was going down, and I went back to the other bedroom where Kevin was at, and I tried to restrangle him at that time, and He jumped up, and we fought, and – and he about – at that time about shot me, ‘cause he got the other pistol that was in my should here. I had my magnum in my shoulder. So – And really – The Court: A shoulder holster? The Defendant: Hmm? The Court: Did you have it in a shoulder holster? The Defendant: Yes, mm-hmm. I had the magnum in my shoulder holster. The other one was a .22. The Court: All right. The Defendant: And we fought at that point in time, and I thought it was gonna go off. I jammed the gun, stuck my finger in the – in there, jammed it; and I think he thought that was the only gun I had ‘cause once I eithr bit his finger or hit him or something, got away, and I used the .22 and shot him one more time, and I thought he was down for good that time. The Court: All right. So you shot him a second time. The Defendant: Yes, sir. The Court: Went back to finish the job on Kathryn, and she was fighting. And at that point in time I’d been fighting her. I just – And then I heard some – I don’t know wheter I was lose – basically losing control. The strangulation wasn’t working on her, and I used a knife on her. The Court: You say you used a knife on her. The Defendant: Yes. Yes. The Court: What did you do with the knife? The Defendant: I stabbed her. She was stab – either stabbed two or three times, either here or here, maybe two back here and one here, or maybe just two times back here. The Court: And you’re — you’re pointing to your lower back and your – your – The Defendant: Yeah, underneath the ribs. The Court: — and your lower abdomen. The Defendant: Yeah, underneath the ribs, up – up under the ribs. The Court: So after you stabbed her what happened? The Defendant: Actually I think at that point in time – Well, it’s a total mess ‘cause I didn’t have control on it. She was bleeding. She went down. I think I just went back to check on Kevin, or at that basically same time I heard him escape. It could be one of the two. But all the sudden the front door of the house was open and he was gone, and – Oh, I tell you what I thought. I thought the police were coming at that time. I heard the door open. I thought, you know, that’s it; and I stepped out there, and he – I could see him running down the street. So I quickly cleaned up everything that I could and left. The Court: All right. Now, Mr. Rader, you indicated that at the Oteros you did not have a mask on. Did you have a mask on at the Bright’s? The Defendant: No. No I didn’t, huh-uh. The Court: All right. So what happened then? The Defendant: I tried – I had –already had the keys to the cars, and I thought I had the right key to the right car. I ran out to their car, what – I think it was a pickup out there. And I tried it, didn’t work; and at that point in time I was – he was gone, running down the street. I thought well, I’m in trouble, so I tried it, didn’t work. So I just took off, ran. I went down – went east and then worked back toward the WSU campus where my car was parked. The Court: All right. So you had parked your car at the Wichita State University – The Defendant: Yes, sir. The Court: — campus? The Defendant: The campus, uh-huh. The Court: How far away were – was the Brights’ residence? The Defendant: Oh, I parked – What is that? 13th? And their – I want to say their – I parked by that park, and then I walked to 13th to the Brights’ residence. So I basically ran back. The Court: All right. So you were able to get to your car and get away. The Defendant: Yes, sir. Murder of Shirley Vian The Court: Now let’s turn to Count No. Six. In that count they claim on March 17th, 1977, in Sedgwick County, Kansas, that you unlawfully killed Shirley Vian, maliciously, willfully, deliberately and with premeditation, by strangulation, inflicting injuries from which she did die on March 17th, 1977. Can you tell me what you did on that day? The Defendant: As before, Vian was a – Actually on that one she was completely random. There was actually someone that across from Dillons was potential target. I had project numbers assigned to it. And that particular day I drove to Dillons, parked in the parking lot, watched this particular residence, and then got out of the car and walked over to it. It’s probably in the police report, the address. I don’t remember the address now. Knocked. Nobody – Nobody answered it. So I was all keyed up, so I just started going through the neighborhood. I had been through the neighborhood before. I know of knew a little – little of the layout of the neighborhood. I’d been through the back alleys, knew where some – certain people lived. While I was walking down Hydraulic I met – a young boy and asked him if he would ID some pictures, kind of as a russ (sic), I guess, or ruse as you call it, and kind of feel it out, and saw where he went, and I went to another address, knocked on the door. Nobody opened the door, so I just noticed where he went and went to that house and we went from there. The Court: Now, you – you call these “projects.” Were these sexual fantasies also? The Defendant: Potential hits. That – In my world, that’s what I called them. The Court: All right. So you – The Defendant: They were called projects, hits. The Court: All right. And – And why did you have these potential hits? Was this to gratify some sexual interest or – The Defendant: Yes, sir. I had – There – I had a lot of them, so it’s just – if one didn’t work I’d just move to another one. The Court: All right. So as I am to understand it then, on the 17th of March, 1977, you saw this little boy go into a residence. The Defendant: Mm-hmm. The Court: And you tried another residence? The Defendant: Sir? The Court: No one was there? You tried another residence. No on was there, so you – The Defendant: Right, right, right, right. Yeah. The Court: — went to the residence with the little boy – The Defendant: And I watched – I watched where he went. The Court: What happened then? The Defendant: After I tried this once, the residence, nobody came to the door. I went to this house where he went in, knocked on the door and told ‘em I was a private detective, showed ‘em a picture that I had just showed the boy and asked ‘em if they could ID the picture; and that time I – I had the gun here and I just kind of forced myself in. I just, you know, walked in – just opened the door and walked in and then pulled a pistol. The Defendant: Yes, sir, uh-huh. The Court: What happened then? The Defendant: I told Mrs. – Miss Vian that I had a problem with sexual fantasies, that I was going to tie her up, and that – and I might have to tie the kids up, and that she would cooperate with this – cooperate with me at that time. We went back. She was extremely nervous. Think she even smoked a cigarette. And we went back to the – one of the back – back areas of the porch, explained to her that I had done this before, and, you know, I think she – at that point in time I think she was sick ‘cause she had a night robe on, and I think, if I remember right, she was – she had been sick. I think – I think she came out of the bedroom when I went in the house. So anyway, we went back to the – her bedroom, and I proceeded to tie the kids up, and they started crying and got real upset. So I said oh, this is not gonna work, so we moved ‘em to the bathroom. She helped me. And then I tied the door shut. We put some toys and blankets and odds and ends in there for the kids, make them as comfortable as we could. Tied the – We tied one of the bathroom doors shut so they couldn’t open it, and we shoved – she went back and helped me shove the bed up against the other bathroom door, and then I proceeded to tie her up. She got sick, threw up. Got her a glass of water, comforted her a little bit, and then went ahead and tied her up and then put a blag (sic) – a bag over her head and strangled her. The Court: All right. Was this a plastic bag also? The Defendant: Yes, sir. I think it was. The Court: All right. The Defendant: But I could be wrong in that. The Court: You put a bag or – The Defendant: It was something – I’m sure it was a plastic bag, yeah. The Court: Now, you say you put a bag over her head and strangled her. What did you strangle her with? The Defendant: I actually – I think on that I had tied – tied her legs to the bedposts and worked up with the rope all the way up, and then what I had left over I looped over her neck. The Court: All right. So you used this rope to strangle her? The Defendant: Yes, uh-huh. I think – I think it was the same one that I tied her body with, mm-hmm. The Court: All right. What happened then? The Defendant: Well, the kids were really banging on the door, hollering and screaming, and – and then the telephone rang, and they had talked earlier that the neighbor’s gonna check on ‘em, so I cleaned everything up real quick like, and got out of there, left and went back in – to my car. The Court: Now, when you say you cleaned everything – The Defendant: Well, I mean put my stuff – I had a briefcase. Whatever I have laying around, ropes, tape, cords, I threw that in there, my – you know, whatever, you know, that I had that I brought in the house. The Court: Had you brought that to the Bright residence also or – The Defendant: Yeah, there is some – There – I – I think there’s some basic stuff, but I don’t remember bringing total stuff like I did to some of the others. The Court: Was this a kit that you had prepared— The Defendant: Yeah. I – The Court: — beforehand? The Defendant: Yes. I call it my hit kit. The Court: All right, sir. You left the Vian residence, and had you parked your vehicle near there? The Defendant: Yeah, still in the same parking lot there at Dillons – The Court: All right. The Defendant: — at Hydraulic and – What is that? Harry? Lincoln. Lincoln, yeah. Lincoln and – Lincoln and Hydraulic. Murder of Nancy Fox The Court: All right. In Count Seven it is claimed that on the 8th day of December, 1977, in Sedgwick County, Kansas, that you unlawfully killed a human being, that being Nancy Fox, maliciously, willfully, deliberately and with premeditation, by strangulation, inflicting injuries from which the said Nancy Fox did die on December 8th, 1977. Can you tell me what you did on that day here in Sedgwick County? The Defendant: Nancy Fox was another one of the projects. When I was trolling the area I noticed her go in the house one night. Sometimes I would – And anyway, I put her down as potential victim. The Court: Let me ask you one thing, Mr. Rader. You’ve used that term when you were patrolling the area. What do you mean by that? The Defendant: It’s called stalking or trolling. The Court: So you were not working in any form or fashion. You were just – The Defendant: Well, I don’t know, if –, you know, if you read much about serial killers, they go through what they call the different phases. That’s one of the phases they go through is a — as a trolling stage. You’re lay – Basically you’re looking for a victim at that time, and that can either be trolling for months or years. But once you lock in on a certain person then you become stalking, and that might be several of them, but you really home in on that person. They – They basically come the – That’s – That’s the victim, or at least that’s what you want ‘em to be. Ms. Foulston: Excuse me, Your Honor. I think he said “trolling,” with a T, not “patrolling.” The Court: He did say “trolling” with a T. I thought he said “patrolling.” The Defendant: Oh, okay. The Court: All right, sir. The Defendant: No, no. I wasn’t working sir. The Court: All right. The Defendant: No, this was – No, this was off – off – off my hours. The Court: All right. So you basically identified Nancy Fox as one of your projects. What happened then? The Defendant: At first she was spotted, and then I did a little homework. I dropped by once to check the mailbox to see what her name was, found out where she worked, stopped by there once at Helzberg, kind of sized her up. I had – The more I know about a person the – the more I felt comfortable with it, so I did that a couple of times; and then I just selected a night, which was this particular night, to try it, and it worked out. The Court: All right. Can you tell me what you did on the night of December 8th, 1977? The Defendant: About two or three blocks away I parked my car and walked to that residence. I knocked at the – knocked at the door first to make sure, see if anybody was in there ‘cause I knew she arrived home at a particular time from where she worked. Nobody answered the door, so I went around to the back of the house, cut the phone lines. I could tell that there wasn’t anybody in the north apartment. Broke in and waited for her to come home in the kitchen. The Court: All right. Did she come home? The Defendant: Yes, she did. The Court: What happened? The Defendant: I confronted her, told here there – I was a – I had a problem, sexual problem, that I would have to tie her up and have sex with her. The Court: Mm-hmm The Defendant: She was a little upset. We talked for a while. She smoked a cigarette. While the – While we smoked a cigarette I went through her purse, identifying some stuff, and she finally said, Well, let’s get this over with so I can go call the police. I said, Yes. She went to the bathroom and came – and I told her when she came out to make sure that she was undressed. And when she came out I handcuffed her, and don’t really remember whether I – The Court: You handcuffed her? The Defendant: Sir? The Court: You handcuffed her? You had a pair of handcuffs? The Defendant: Yes, sir, uh-huh, mm-hmm. The Court: What happened then? The Defendant: Well, anyway, I had her – I handcuffed her, had he lay on the bed, and then I tied her feet, and then I – I – I – was also undressed to a certain degree, and then I got on top of her, and then reached over, took either – either – either her feet were tied or not tied, but anyway, I took – I think I had a belt. I took the belt and then strangled her with the belt at that time. The Court: All right. All right. After you had strangled her what happened then? The Defendant: Okay. After I strangled her with the belt I took the belt off and retied that with pantyhose real tight, removed the handcuffs and tied those with – with pantyhose. Can’t remember the colors right now. I think I maybe retied her feet, if they hadn’t already – they were probably already tied, her feet were, and then at that time masturbated, sir. The Court: All right. Had you had sexual relations with her – The Defendant: No. The Court: — before? The Defendant: No, no. I told her I was, but I did not. The Court: All right. So you masturbated. Then what did you do? The Defendant: Dressed and then went through the house, took some personal items, and kind of cleaned the house up, went through and made – checked everything and then left. The Court: All right. Ms. Foulston: Your Honor, for the record, the address? The Court: He’s established it was in Sedgwick County. I don’t need an exact address. For purpose of this – It’s in Sedgwick County. Do you remember the address, Mr. Rader? The Defendant: Oh, the Fox? Nice – 913 or nine oh – 903? No, I – I sure don’t. I know it was on Pershing – South Pershing. That’s all. The Court: Here in Wichita? The Defendant: It was nice – It was nine something, sir, but I don’t remember the other numb – digits. Ms. Foulston: It’s 843. The Court: The address, as I said, is really not important as long as you remember it happened here in Wichita, Sedgwick County, Kansas. The Defendant: Yes, sir. Murder of Marine Hedge The Court: All right, sir. Let’s turn to Count Eight. In Count Eight it is claimed that on or about the 27th day of April, 1985, to the 28th day of April, 1985, in Sedgwick County, Kansas, it is claimed that you unlawfully killed a human being, Marine Hedge, maliciously, willfully, deliberately and with premeditation, by strangulation, inflicting injuries from which Marine Hedge did die on April 27th, 1985. Can you tell me what occurred on that day? The Defendant: Well, actually, kind of like the others. She was chosen. I went through the different phases, stalking phase, and since she lived down the street from me I could watch the coming and going quite easily. On that particular date I – I had a — a other (sic) commitment. I came back from that commitment. Parked my car over at Woodlawn and 21st. Street at a bowling alley there at the time. Before that I dressed into – I had some other clothes on. I changed clothes. I went to the bowling alley, went in there under the pretense of bowling, called a taxi. Had a taxi take me out to Park City. Had my kit with me. It was a bowling bag. The Court: All right. Now, is Park City in Sedgwick County, Kansas? The Defendant: Yes, sir, uh-huh, mm-hmm. The Court: All right. You had the taxi take you to Park City. What happened then? The Defendant: There I asked – I – I pretended that I was a little drunk. I just took – I just took some beer and washed it around my mouth, and the guy could probably smell alcohol on me. I asked – told him to let me out so I could get some fresh air, and I walked from where the taxi let me off over to her house. The Court: All right. Where does she live? The Defendant: 62 — What is it? – 427 (Off-the-record discussion between the defendant and Ms. Mitchell.) The Defendant: 54. 62547 6254 – The Court: All right. What was the – The Defendant: — North Independence. The Court: All right. When you walked over there what happened next? The Defendant: Well, as before, I was going to have sexual fantasies, so I brought my hit kit, and lo and behold, her car was there. I thought gee, she’s not supposed to be home. So I very carefully snuck into the house, she wasn’t there. So about that time the doors rattled, so I went – went back to one of the bedrooms and hid back there in one of the bedrooms. She came in with a male visitor. They were there for maybe an hour or so. Then he left. I waited till wee hours of the morning. I then proceeded to sneak into her bedroom and flip the lights on real quick like, or I think the bathroom lights. I just – I didn’t want to flip her lights on, and she screamed, and I jumped on the bed and strangled her manually. The Court: All right. Now, were you wearing any kind of disguise or mask at this time? The Defendant: No. No. The Court: You indicated this woman lived down the street from you. Did she know you? The Defendant: Casually. We’d walk by and wave. She – She liked to work in her yard as well as I liked to work, and it’s just a neighborly type thing. It wasn’t anything personal, I mean, just a neighbor. The Court: All right. So she was in her bed when you turned on the lights in the bathroom? The Defendant: Yeah, the bathroom, yeah, just to – so I could get some light in there. The Court: All right. What did you do then? The Defendant: Oh, I manually strangled her when she started to scream. The Court: So you used your hands? The Defendant: Yes, sir. The Court: And you strangled her? Did she die? The Defendant: Yes. The Court: All right. What did you do then? The Defendant: After that, since I was in the sexual fantasy, I went ahead and stripped her and probably went ahead and – I’m not for sure if I tied her up at that point in time, but anyway, she was nude, and I put her on a blanket, went through her purse, some personal items in the house, figured out how I was gonna get her out of there. Eventually moved her to the trunk of the car. Took the car over to Christ Lutheran Church – This is with the older church – and took some pictures of her. The Court: All right. You took some photographs of her. What kind of camera did you use? The Defendant: Polaroid. The Court: All right. Did you keep those photographs? The Defendant: Yes. The police probably have them. The Court: All right. All right. What happened then? The Defendant: That was it. I went – I took – She went through – I tied – She was already dead, so I took pictures of her in different forms of bondage, and that’s probably what got me in trouble is the bondage thing. So anyway – That’s probably the – the main thing. But anyway, after that I moved her back out to the car, and then we went east on 53rd. The Court: All right. What occurred then? The Defendant: Sir? The Court: What happened then? The Defendant: Oh, trying to find a place to hide her, hide the body. The Court: Did you find a place? The Defendant: Yes. Yes, I did. The Court: Where? The Court: Where? The Defendant: Couldn’t tell you without looking at a map, but it was on 53rd, between Greenwich maybe – maybe – What’s – What’s the other one between Green – Greenwich and Rock? Mr. Osburn: Webb. The Defendant: Webb. Between – I think between wed (sic) and – Webb and Greenwich I found a ditch, a low place on the north side of the rode, and hid her there. The Court: All right. You say you hid her there. Did you – The Defendant: Well, there were some – there were some trees, some brush, and I laid that over the top of her body. The Court: All right. So you removed the body from the car, put her in the ditch, then laid some – some brush over the body. The Defendant: Yes, sir. Murder of Dolores E. Davis The Court: Now, sir, let’s turn to Count Ten. In that count it’s claimed that on or about the 18th day of January, 1991, to the eight – 19th day of January, 1991, in the County of Sedgwick, State of Kansas, that you did then and there unlawfully kill a human being, that being Dolores E. Davis, maliciously, willfully, deliberately and with premeditation, by strangulation, inflicting injuries from which the said Dolores E. Davis did die on January 19th, 1991. Mr. Rader, please tell me what you did here in Sedgwick County, Kansas, on that day that makes you believe you’re guilty. The Defendant: That particular day I had some commitments. I left those, went to one place changed my clothes, went to another place, parked my car, finally made arrangements on my hit kit, my clothes, and then walked to that residence. After spending some time at that residence – It was very cold that night. Had reservations about going in ‘cause I – I had cased the place before, and I really couldn’t figure out how to get in, and she was in the house, so I finally just selected a – a concrete block and threw it through the plate glass window on the east and came on in. The Court: All right. Where is this residence located? The Defendant: It’s on Hillside, but I couldn’t give the address. I know it’s probably 61 – probably 62 something. I don’t know. 62 something. The Court: North or South? The Defendant: North. North Hillside. The Court: All right. So you used a concrete block to break a window? The Defendant: Mm-hmm, plate glass window, patio door, mm-hmm. The Court: All right. What happened then? The Defendant: Noise. I just went in. She came out of a bedroom and thought a car had hit her house, and I told her that I was – I used a – the ruse of being wanted. I was on the run; I needed food, car, warmth, warm up, and then I asked her – I handcuffed her and kind of talked to her, told her that I would like to get some food, get her keys to her car, and kind of rest assured, you know, walked – talked with her a little bit and calmed her down a little bit. And then eventually I checked – I think she was still handcuffed. I went back and checked out where the car was, simulated getting some food, odds and ends in the house, kind of like I was leaving, then went back and removed her handcuffs and – and then tied her up and then – and then eventually strangled her. The Court: All right. You say “eventually strangled her.” The Defendant: Well, after I tied her up. I went through some things in the room there and then – and then strangled her. The Court: All right. You say you went through. Were you looking for something? The Defendant: Mm-hmm. Well, some personal items, yes. I took some personal items from there. The Court: Did you take personal items in every one of these incidents? The Defendant: I did on the Hedge. I don’t remember anything in Vicki’s place. The Oteros we got the watch and the radio. I don’t think I did any in Bright’s. Vian’s, no, I don’t think so. Fox, yes. I took some things from Fox. It was hit and miss. The Court: All right. But in regard – The Defendant: Prob – Probably if it – if it – if it was a controlled situation where I had more time I took something, but if it – if it was a confusion and other things I didn’t ‘cause I was trying to get out of there. The Court: All right. So in regard to the Davis matter, you went around the room, took a few personal things. What did you do then? The Defendant: Strangled her. The Court: What did you strangle her with? The Defendant: Pantyhose. The Court: All right. What happened then? Did she die? The Defendant: Kind of like Mrs. Hedge. I already figured out my – I had a, you know, plan on leaving and put her in a blanket and drug her to the car, put her in the trunk of the car. The Court: So you were able to strangle her to death with these pantyhose. The Defendant: Yes, sir. The Court: All right. You put her in your car. The Defendant: In her car. The Court: Or in a car. The Defendant: Her car. The Court: Her car or trunk. The Defendant: Uh-huh, the trunk of her car, uh-huh. The Court: What happened then? The Defendant: I really had a commitment I needed to go to, so I moved her to one spot, took her out of her car. This gets complicated. Then the stuff I had, clothes, gun, whatever, I took that to another spot in her car, dumped that off. Okay. Then took her car back to her house. Left that. Let me think now. (REPORTER’S NOTE: The defendant made a repetitive popping sound with his lips.) Okay. In the interim – I took her car back to her house. In the interim I realized that I had lost one of my guns. I dropped it somewhere. So I was distraught trying to figure out where my gun was. So I went back in the house, realized I had dropped it when I went in the – when I broke the plate glass window. It dropped. It fell on the floor right there, and I found it right there. So that solved that problem. Anyway, I went back out, threw the keys – checked the car real quick – quick like and threw the keys up on top of the roof of her house, walked from her car back to my car, took my car, drove it back, and I either dropped more stuff off or I picked her up and put ‘em in my car, and then I drove northeast of Sedgwick County and dropped her off underneath a bridge. The Court: All right. So all of these incidents, these ten counts, occurred because you wanted to satisfy a sexual fantasy; is that correct? The Defendant: Yes, mm-hmm. The Court: Does any party desire any further matters to be put on the record at this time? Mr. Osburn: No, Your Honor. The Court: All right. You may be seated, Mr. Rader. (The defendant and his counsel were seated.)

Note: True Crime Review is currently a scripted podcast. That means I write out what I intend to say prior to recording. However, I will occasionally add or remove stuff while recording or while editing. So the below isn’t a transcript, just a rough script of what I said in the episode.  Experiments This episode contains some of the same experiments I did in Episode 11. Please let me know what you think via the post comments, email, Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, or voicemail (another experiment I’ll announce in an upcoming episode) at 724-24-CRIME. The title: I’ve been trying to put as many victims’ names in the title as I can but at some point it just becomes too long. Once again, I’m focusing the title on the featured cold case. This partially to prevent crazy-long titles and partially to bring extra attention to the featured cold case because most if not all of the other crimes discussed are either under active investigation or have been solved and are awaiting prosecution. I read the intro this week instead of using the creepy augmented voice I’ve used previously. Back to the creepy voice. I know some people don’t like it, but I do. You can easily skip it if you want. Once again I’ve inserted bumpers between main segments of the show. It’s a few notes of melancholy, mysterious-sounding strings taken from Ofelia’s Dream by Benjamin Tissot. No background music in this episode. I did an initial edit with the background music left in, but I find it distracting. It was originally a way to mask the fact that I didn’t have a real mic. Now that I do, I don’t think I need the music anymore. Intro Welcome to True Crime Review, an unflinching gaze into the depths of human depravity. The podcast covers current crime news, updates on cold cases and resources for research and investigation. True Crime Review often discusses disturbing and violent crimes, so listener discretion is advised. Show Updates Patreon I officially have THREE Patreon subscribers, and I want to thank Leo, Jan and Deborah for their generous patronage. I’m already working on the first Patreon exclusive episode, which you can get for just a dollar a month. Go to patreon.com/truecrimereview if you’re considering patronage and have a look at all of the rewards. I want to report that I said I’d do a dance after my first patron, and I did the dance. I decided it was in the best interests of all of us that there would be no video or GIF of that dance, but I wanted to tell you it happened. Reviews I’ve had a bunch of five star iTunes reviews since the last episode, so I want to thank those folks, who are Jena-Bug, lanl, Foggy Star, Naty9917 and Lislucy. Five-star reviews help the show get more exposure, so if you think it deserves a positive review, I hope you’ll consider leaving one. Podcast Recommendation Twisted Philly is a podcast by Philly native Deana Marie, “about mischief and mayhem in the city of brotherly love.” The show isn’t exclusively about true crime, but it’s featured often enough that it’s easily among my favorite true crime podcasts. Having lived myself in Philly for about 12 years probably doesn’t hurt, but it’s safe to say based on the quality of the show and its quick growth that you don’t have to be from the area to enjoy Deana Marie’s hard work. Lately, Twitsted Philly has been keeping a close eye on the awful rape and murder of 14-year-old Grace Packer in the Philadelphia suburb of Abington, Pennsylvania. In a series called For the Love of Gracie, Deana Marie is going to cover the life and death of Gracie, with a focus on remembering the girl for who she was and not just how she died. Maybe Twisted Philly was such an instant hit with me because it has the same focus as I try to have with this podcast: the victims. I expect For the Love of Gracie will be one of the best examples of how important that focus really is, and I look forward to listening to Twisted Philly with every new episode. Go to twistedphilly.com or search “Twisted Philly” on your favorite podcast app. News Grace Packer The story of Grace Packer is sadly reminiscent of the deaths of both Victoria Martens and Erica Parsons, both of whom I discuss in Episode 4 and Episode 6. In Episode 4 I covered how Victoria’s mother was involved in her rape and murder. In Episode 6 I covered how Erica’s adoptive parents abused her for most of her life with them, including coercing her adoptive brother to assist in that abuse. That brother reported Erica missing in 2013, two years after he last saw her. Her adoptive parents went to prison in 2014 for continuing to collect benefits in her name long after she disappeared. Grace Packer’s story is a combination of these two. Despite the general warning at the beginning of the episode, I feel obliged to give you another one: this is a disturbing and violent story. The Delaware County Daily News reports that, quote: Police have said that as part of a horrific rape-murder fantasy plot carried out in July, Sara Packer watched as her boyfriend, 44-year-old Jacob Sullivan, beat and raped Grace, who was then bound, gagged and left to die in the sweltering attic of their Quakertown home. Returning the next day and finding Grace still alive, Sullivan suffocated her, according to investigators. The couple then packed Grace’s body in cat litter to mask any odors and stored her in the attic for months, then dismembered her and dumped the body parts in a remote area of upstate Pennsylvania, where hunters found them on Halloween, police said. Sara Packer’s boyfriend has since confessed and charges for the murder and the benefits fraud have been brought. Packer waived her preliminary hearing, which procedurally means she is one step closer to trial. I wouldn’t be surprised if the waiver is a precursor to a plea deal, but there’s no word of such a deal yet, that’s just speculation on my part. Find more coverage at The Morning Call. The Bear Brook Murders From Wikipedia: The Bear Brook murders (also referred to as the Allenstown Four) are four unidentified female murder victims discovered in 1985 and 2000 at Bear Brook State Park in Allenstown, New Hampshire. The case had never been solved until January 2017. All of the victims were either partially or completely skeletonized; they’re believed to have died between 1977 and 1985. The victims’ faces have been reconstructed multiple times, most recently by the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. In 2017, the father of the middle child was identified as Robert “Bob” Evans, who is believed to be responsible for these murders, as well as several others, including the disappearance of his girlfriend in 1981. He was convicted of a different murder and died in prison in 2010. This case is notable because the adult female and the young girl with her were found in a metal drum in 1985 and the other two young girls were not found until 2000, and then only by accident during a follow-up investigation performed by a detective newly assigned to the cold case. The adult woman and two of the girls are related, but the victim who was the child of suspect Curtis Kimball, alias Robert Evans, is not related to the other three victims. And while authorities are confident that Robert Evans committed these murders, they still cannot identify the victims. See the References section of the Wikipedia article if you want to look into this case further. There’s also an extensive thread on the Websleuths forum and an excellent article in Forensic Magazine. Joan Viau 52-year-old Williamsbridge, New York resident Joan Viau was reported missing on January 23, 2017. She was last seen alive on her way to a Veterans Affairs hospital with her 31-year-old son Joseph Garcia. Her boyfriend found her car near her home, with blood stains in it. Her body was found six days later. Her son was arrested after being caught on video moving her car and trying to use her ATM card. He’s being held $100,000 bail and, while authorities haven’t announced it yet, I suspect we will see homicide added to his charges. While no obvious motive has been reported, my gut says mental illness played a role in this case. Jessica Runions I covered the September 2016 disappearance of Jessica Runions in Episode 4. A man named Kyle Yust was charged with burning Jessica’s vehicle. Yust had been dating Kara Kopetsky on and off when she disappeared about nine years ago. While it looked like he was a suspect in that disappearance, he was never charged. Kara or her body have not yet been found. Jessica’s family has been searching for her since September and, while they haven’t yet found her, what they have found is two unrelated bodies. The first was identified as Brandon Herring, missing since November 2016 and the subject of an ongoing homicide investigation. His mother Rhonda told a local television news reporter, quote, “Now I have my baby, I have a little closure.” The second decedent, found near the end of January 2017, has yet to be identified but is currently labeled a suspicious death. Jessica’s father John was happy to provide Rhonda Herring with that closure, but he and the many family and friends helping him will continue their search for Jessica. Zuzu Verk 21-year-old Texas college student Zuzu Verk was reported missing on October 12, 2016 and was later found dead, prompting an investigation which led to the arrest of her boyfriend and his friend, both of whom are currently charged with second-degree felony evidence tampering by concealment of a corpse. The investigation is ongoing and evidence is mounting, as you can read in a recent NBCNews.com article. Lori Verk, Zuzu Verk’s mother, told a CBS affiliate she is eager for justice. “We’ll lay her to rest and then, then we go after the consequences that need to be met,” Lori Verk said. “How dare anyone do this?” That woman sounds so strong to me. She has recently recovered her murdered daughter’s remains and yes she’s no doubt in mourning I can’t imagine, but she still harbors an outspoken demand for justice and quote, “the consequences that need to be met.” I hope homicide charges are added to Zuzu’s boyfriend’s charge sheet soon so her family, after burying Zuzu, can move ahead with getting that justice. Karina Vetrano 30-year-old Karina Veteran was jogging near her Queens, New York home on August 2, 2016 when she was sexually assaulted and strangled. Tragically, she usually jogged with her father, but he had not felt well that day, so she went alone. When she was gone too long, Phil Veteran went looking for his daughter and, heartbreakingly, found her dead. Phil began pushing for New York state to authorize the use of familial DNA in investigations. Familial DNA can identify relatives of a suspect, helping authorities build or narrow a list of suspects. While familial DNA is still under review in New York, with a bill authorizing its use moving through the state legislature, DNA found under Karina’s fingernails, on her back and on her cell phone was tested using standard methods and, in conjunction with a review of 911 calls from that night, led authorities to arrest 20-year-old suspect Chanel Lewis. Erica Parsons buried Erica Parsons, whose abuse by her family and disappearance I covered in several prior episodes, was buried after a funeral on February 25, 2017, the day after her birthday. In late 2016 her adoptive father led authorities to the shallow grave he admitted burying her in, but no one has yet been charged for the murder. The investigation, according to police, is ongoing, but I predict charges against Erica’s adoptive parents, who continued collecting benefits for her even after her disappearance, some time in 2017. Arrest made in 2005 Tara Grinstead disappearance A former student of the school at which she taught has been arrested in connection with the 2005 disappearance of Tara Grinstead. Payne Lindsey’s podcast Up and Vanished is the canonical source of info for the case, with Lindsey doing a great deal of his own investigation over the course of the podcast. Find it at upandvanished.com. Human Garbage of the Week We already mentioned the Human Garbage of the Week earlier in this episode: it’s Sara Packer, who helped her boyfriend rape her own adopted daughter before the two bound her, gagged her, and left her in a hot attic to die. They strangled Grace when they found she was still alive. Sara Packer herself later bought a bow saw and blades at a hardware store, undoubtedly used to dismember Grace, whose body was later found in pieces. Sara Packer was at one point a supervisor at Northampton County’s Children, Youth and Families Division, entrusted with the care and safety not only of her own foster and adopted children, but of all endangered children in her county. She is disgusting in every way someone can be disgusting. But let me be clear: Monsters like Sara Packer are not representative of child welfare workers, who despite being frequently painted as “baby-snatchers” tirelessly pursue the safety and welfare of the children and families they serve, and are often criminally underpaid and overworked in return. Resource The resource for this episode is a bit unlike the prior resources. It’s Unsolved Mysteries streaming on Amazon. The first two seasons of the Robert Stack-hosted classic are available right now and include updates on many of the segments. True crime fans will undoubtedly recognize some of the cases the show covered and, while the updates are often fascinating, it’s the cases that remain cold that are most intriguing to me. Whether you want some nostalgia or are looking for a new (but old) mystery to research, Unsolved Mysteries on Amazon is a great watch. I want to note here that the link on the website will be an Amazon affiliate link, which just means anything you buy on Amazon as a result of clicking it will toss a few pennies my way, without costing you anything extra. You pay the same prices but get to support the show. Cold Case: Joanne Gladys Garr As usual, much of the info I found on this case comes from The Charley Project. Joanne Gladys Garr was born on December 1, 1940. When she went missing in 1971 she was 5 feet 3 inches tall and weighed 110 to 130 pounds. She was white, with red hair and blue eyes and freckles on her face, arms and legs. She sometimes went by Joan. She was last seen in Dearborn Heights, Michigan on November 24, 1971. She was not reported missing until December 31st. She had married her second husband, Philip Garr, less than a year before she went missing. He said she had returned to their house after being estranged from him for a while, packed her bags, and left him once again. However, he couldn’t provide a date on which he last saw her and claimed he didn’t have any idea where she may have gone. Joanne’s first husband, Robert Ross, spoke to her by phone on November 24, 1971 so the two could arrange Joanne’s November 25th pickup of the divorced couple’s children. Joanne intended to take them to a parade in Detroit. She never showed up at Robert’s for her children. Joanne also failed to appear for a Thanksgiving dinner to which a female friend had invited her. And after November 24th, no one at her employer, Hygrade Food Products Corporation in Southfield, Michigan, ever saw her again. She had worked there for six years when she vanished, but when she stopped showing up for work, for some reason I can’t really fathom, the company assumed she had quit. They mailed her belongings to the house she had shared with Philip Garr but, and this really got my attention, the box came back to them undelivered. They later threw it all away. Joanne’s mom, Dolores Lesninski, called her husband Philip in late December of 1971 because she hadn’t heard from her daughter in a while. Philip’s first story was that Joanne was in Ohio visiting a friend, but, and this is a direct quote from The Charley Project, “when this statement proved false he said she was in Illinois.” Finally, Philip said Joanne had packed her bags and left him, being picked up by a man he didn’t know. There had been visible injuries previously, like black eyes and bruises, which Joanne’s mother and others had seen, and which Joanne and Philip explained away as accidents. It isn’t clear whether anyone believed these explanations. Dolores reported Joanne missing on December 31, 1971. By August 24, 1972, Detroit Policewoman Judith Larson wrote a letter to the distraught mother informing her that the case was “being placed in the closed-pending file” because all leads had been exhausted. The letter essentially shifted responsibility for any further investigation onto Dolores, saying “if at any time you receive information which would warrant further investigation please contact us immediately so that the case may be reactivated.” Ever since 1972, 45 years ago, the case has been ice cold. Outro Thanks for listening to this episode of True Crime Review. Find us on Facebook and Instagram at truecrimereview, on reddit at r/truecrimereview and on Twitter at truecrimerev. Go to true crime review dot net slash subscribe to subscribe and get all of our new episodes when they’re released. Please also leave a review in iTunes or wherever you listen to the podcast because helps us move up the charts and get more listeners. The theme music is Our Planet is Lost, by Entropy Audio. Find more at entropy audio dot band camp dot com. This is your host Joe, signing off of this episode of True Crime Review. Until next time remember, families deserve truth, and victims deserve voices. Cold Case Sources http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?120183-MI-Joanne-Gladys-Garr-30-Dearborn-Heights-Nov-1971 http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/garr_joanne.html https://www.scribd.com/collections/18092781/Case-13-Joanne-Gladys-Garr

Introduction No script here, and I think no script will be the norm for these True Crime Audio episodes, since I do hardly any talking. In fact, I didn’t do any story-specific talking in this episode. The only non-archival speaking is done by a text-to-speech app which reads the information quoted below: On August 20, 2013, a shooting and hostage situation occurred at Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy, an elementary school in the district. A man with an AK-47 entered the school’s front office and barricaded himself. He fired six shots at approaching police officers outside, who returned fire. Nobody was injured. The school’s students were evacuated. Antoinette Tuff, a school bookkeeper, later received a call from President Obama praising her for her courage while talking to the shooter; police credited her calmness and kindness toward him with convincing him to surrender without shooting anyone. – Wikipedia This episode contains Antoinette Tuff’s 911 call, book-ended with material from news reports and other sources, which are all listed below. Sources Audio and Video Raw: Full Georgia school shooting 911 call with Antoinette Tuff Antoinette Tuff: I’d like to visit shooter – YouTube Ga. school gunman had nearly 500 rounds of ammo – YouTube Atlanta School Shooting Alleged Gunman, Michael Brandon Hill, Wanted News to Film ‘As Police Die’ – YouTube Antoinette Tuff & First Responders Honored for Collaborative Success & Peaceful Outcome – YouTube Bookkeeper who talked down school gunman reunites with 911 dispatcher – YouTube School Clerk Helps Shooting Suspect Surrender – YouTube School shooting tragedy averted in Ga. – YouTube School shooting tragedy averted in Ga. – YouTube Decatur Georgia Elementary School Shooting – YouTube School shooting in Decatur Georgia at Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy (August 20, 2013) – YouTube Antoinette Tuff: Prepared for a Purpose – YouTube Antoinette Tuff: God put me there to help – YouTube Exclusive: Pres. Obama on Antoinette Tuff – YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kVpipSXRKA&app=desktop Articles Antoinette Tuff – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Georgia school shooting: Antoinette Tuff hailed as hero – CNN.com How One Woman’s Faith Stopped A School Shooting : NPR Elementary School Clerk Says She Convinced Suspect to Put His Weapons Down and Surrender: Exclusive – ABC News Georgia elementary school bookkeeper credited with calming armed suspect | Fox News Michael Brandon Hill sentenced to 20 years in prison – BBC News A plea for help: Georgia school shooting suspect’s lonely life – NBC News Michael Brandon Hill packing nearly 500 rounds at Georgia elementary school – CBS News Michael Brandon Hill – Wikipedia Michael Brandon Hill pleads guilty | WSB-TV DeKalb County School District – Wikipedia Subscribe If this is the first episode of True Crime Review you have found, please consider subscribing: iTunes Google Play Stitcher Overcast Soundcloud Audioboom Blubrry RSS Connect You can get in touch via the comments section of this episode, by email at podcast @ truecrimereview dot net or at: Facebook Twitter Instagram reddit

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Editor’s Note This episode contains some experiments. I was so focused on research and writing for this episode that I forgot to mention any of the following on the recording. Please let me know via the post comments, Twitter, Reddit, Facebook or VOICEMAIL (another experiment I’ll announce in an upcoming episode) at 724-24-CRIME. The title: I’ve been trying to put as many victims’ names in the title as I can but at some point it just becomes too long. This time I’m focusing the title on the featured cold case. This partially to prevent crazy-long titles and partially to bring extra attention to the featured cold case because most if not all of the other crimes discussed are either under active investigation or have been solved and are awaiting prosecution. I read the intro this week instead of using the creepy augmented voice I’ve used previously. I’ve added bumpers between main segments of the show. It’s a few notes of melancholy, mysterious-sounding strings taken from Ofelia’s Dream by Benjamin Tissot. No background music in this episode. Intro Welcome to True Crime Review, an unflinching gaze into the depths of human depravity. The podcast covers current crime news, updates on cold cases and resources for research and investigation. True Crime Review often discusses disturbing and violent crimes, so listener discretion is advised. Reviews The following awesome people left five-star review on iTunes recently: From the US: Bossypants16, Lo5972, Dirty713 and jlevesque From the UK: Rita 2015 and S3ano222 From Australia: JodiJaseph Thanks to everyone who has left a review, I read them all and take the feedback into consideration, even when it hurts. Especially when it hurts. But the five-star reviews will always get a quick shout-out here because who doesn’t love getting five stars for something they’ve done? Show Updates Patreon We have a Patreon! As soon as I have my first patron I’m going to start doing a Patreon-exclusive extra episode every month. Just $1 a month gets you access to that feed. That money will always go into the podcast and you can read more about how over at the Patreon page, patreon.com/truecrimereview. Find other ways to support us, including using our Amazon affiliate link, which costs you NOTHING, at truecrimereview.net/support. Update on Chris Zahl, covered in Ep. 4 Someone named Rich Laue posted the following comment on the YouTube video of episode 4: As a friend of Chris Zahl I can add a little more. He had found an out of the way field in a Monmouth County Park off of Red Hill Road about 2 miles from the farm, to grow his weed.. He contended this was for medical research, but spent time in jail. The PI, hired by Friends of Chris, feels his disappearance is related to the pot growing, considering that all they found was the items you mentioned, almost ones costly felt it was murder. The car had been sanitized, no dirt, hair or fingerprints could be found to identify who he might have been with or where the vehicle might have gone. . His brother is not a suspect, the farm was thoroughly searched, including the pond. The mother who our lives there husband’s has since sold the farm and lives in Red Bank. Texas also was brought into the investagation, but I’m not sure why. Go have a listen to Episode 4 for more info and while you’re there you can read the info I included in the original story I did on Chris Zahl. Podcast Recommendation This time the podcast recommendation is Crime in Sports by comedians James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman. While I was born and raised in a football household (Go Eagles!) and played baseball and basketball for years (very poorly), I’m not that into sports. (Sorry Dad). BUT when you combine sports with true crime you have my attention. Pietragallo and Whisman always bring serious research to the table and manage to be funny without disrespecting the victims. So, even if you’re not a fan of sportsball, give Crime in Sports a try. It’s a great listen and because of the show’s premise it’s likely to cover a lot of crimes you’ve never heard about on the broader true crime podcast circuit. Find Crime in Sports on AudioBoom, Podbean, iTunes, Facebook and Twitter. News Dylan Roof was found guilty on December 15 of 33 counts of federal hate crimes for the murder of 9 churchgoers in Charleston, South Carolina on June 17, 2015. Roof, acting as his own lawyer now that the sentencing phase of his trial has started, told a judge on December 28, 2016 that he will not call witnesses or present any other evidence which might mitigate against the death penalty. Video of his confession to FBI agents can be found on the True Crime Review YouTube channel. Dylan Roof murdered Cynthia Marie Graham Hurd, Susie Jackson, Ethel Lee Lance, Depayne Middlton-Doctor, Clementa C. Pinckney, Tywanza Sanders, Daniel Simmons, Sharonda Coleman-Singleton and Myra Thompson. Other victims include Felicia Sanders, Polly Sheppard and several others who remain unnamed for various reasons. In an unrelated story, on Monday, December 19, the Spartanburg County Sheriff’s Office in South Carolina conducted its Shop with the Sheriff program, during which the children and families of homicide victims met with deputies to shop for Christmas presents. A total of 25 children were given up to $100 each to pick out a present at a local Walmart. In another totally unrelated story that also took place in South Carolina, on December 27 State House Representative Chris Corley of Aiken County, from Graniteville, was arrested for responding to his wife’s accusations that he has been cheating on her by punching her in the face and pointing a gun at her. He then threatened to kill himself. He did these things in the presence of their 2- and 8-year-old children. He was charged with first-degree criminal domestic violence, a felony that could get him 10 years in prison. He was granted $20,000 bond and will work while the charges are pending. Five Albuquerque teens were charged with murder in early December after backing over 47-year-old father of three boys Hector Aguirre with his own work van, killing him. They had stolen the van and scared the man off by pointing a gun at him while he held onto the windshield wipers of the vehicle trying to stop the theft. They could easily have gotten away from him but decided to crush him under his own van anyway. Several of those charged had also been involved in a drive-by murder, the fatal shooting of a dog, and other crimes. Felton Ladell Humphries Jr. was sentenced on December 9th to 69 years to life for stabbing his wife to death while she was holding their 5-month-old daughter, whom Humphries also deliberately stabbed. The child survived but 32-year-old Alicia Renae Williams died the next morning. A judge in Ithaca, New York rejected the December 19th the guilty plea of 38-year-old Justin Barkley in the shooting death of 52-year-old William Schumacher while the seasonal UPS driver was on a break from his overnight route. The judge rejected the guilty plea because Barkley said he thought he had murdered Donald Trump. The next hearing in the indictment is scheduled for January 6th. New Jersey State Police recently arrested 32-year-old Jeremiah Monell after the December 19th murder of his estranged wife and mother of his two children 35-year-old Tara O’Shea-Watson. Tara’s stabbing death was allegedly witnessed by the couple’s son who then went to find help for his mother. Monell has been charged with homicide and weapons offenses. His bail has been set at $1 million. Human Garbage of the Week Anthony Showers of Anfield, Liverpool, Merseyside in the United Kingdom, was sentenced to life in prison, with a 29-year-minimum. On June 12, 2016 he broke into the home of mother and daughter Karen and Jade Hales, 53 and 28 years old respectively, by breaking a rear bedroom window. Showers had dated Jade on and off but was banned from her home by a court order following a domestic abuse incident. He began by killing their dog with a hammer. Showers then took the hammer to Jade, hitting her in the head 12 times and then, either while she was dying or very soon after she was dead, Showers raped her. Afterward, he found Karen downstairs. The mother was a stroke survivor who used a walker and depended on Jade for day-to-day care. He beat her to death with the same hammer he had used on her daughter. Jade’s 21-year-old sister Amanda told the court: The day she met Anthony saw Jade change from a fun-loving young woman to a scared, frail person. I watched him take every last piece of her until there was no more to take. Anthony Showers is the worthless stinking rancid putrid Human Garbage of the Week. My heart breaks for Jade, Karen, Amanda and all of the other people Showers hurt. Resource This episode’s resource is an app called Safety Central by the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. Available on both iOS and Android, the app is a simple but potentially powerful all parents should take a look at. Here’s a quote from the app’s iTunes description: Developed by the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children, the leading nonprofit in the fight to keep children safe, Safety Central is designed to make sure that parents have the tools they need to help them protect their families and act quickly should their children go missing. At the core of Safety Central is a digital Child ID Kit. One of the most important tools for law enforcement when searching for a missing child is an up-to-date, good quality photo along with descriptive information. A Child ID kit is a simple yet effective way to keep those tools right at your fingertips. The app, which does not share any of your personal information, reminds you when it’s time to update your photos and allows you to store potentially life-saving information about your children in an easily accessible location. Get Safety Central free for iOS or Android and visit the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children at missingkids.com. Cold Case: Sherri Vanessa Holland [post at r/truecrimereview] We discussed the murder of Sherri Holland by Steven Spears in Episode 9, but as one blogger notesthe disappearance of Sherri Vanessa Holland involved a different woman altogether. So we’re going to cover that in this episode. Please note that while I have rewritten what follows and added and subtracted elements of the story, most of the info comes from the Charley Project and the tireless work of Meaghan Good. Basics According to the Charley Project, Sherri Vanessa Holland was born on May 9, 1962 and was 34 years old when she was reported missing on August 16, 1996. She is a white woman with blonde hair, blue eyes, weighed 115 pounds and was 5 feet 5 inches tall when she disappeared. She has a scar on her left arm and pierced ears. Holland had cosmetic facial surgery in 1995. Some agencies may refer to her as Vanessa Sherri Holland. Sherri was in Flager Beach, Florida where she owned a vacation property, preparing to return home to Atlanta, Georgia when she was last seen between 11:30 AM and 12:00 PM. Her sisters reported her missing when she didn’t arrive in Atlanta. Her vehicle, a gold- or champagne-colored 1987 BMW 325i with Georgia plate BKT664, was discovered on August 24 (according to the GBI) or 25, 1996 near exit 76 between Macon and Atlanta Georgia. It was found on I-75 northbound in Morrow, Georgia. It had a flat as a result of a nail in the front right tire. An Atlanta-Journal Constitution article dated August 20, 2001 says Sherri’s car was a 1985 model year BMW so it’s not clear which year is correct. It’s worth noting the same article states Sherri was last heard from on August 16, 1995 even though GBI records and all other sources state that the year was 1996. Bottom line is it seems like the AJC article wasn’t fact-checked very carefully, so keep that in mind. Two miles from the car, in Riverdale, Georgia near the Stratford Arms apartments, her dogs were found in a field. Sadly one of them had died after being hit by traffic, but one of them was rescued and went to live with twin Sherri’s sister Terri. A resident of the Stratford Arms told police the surviving dog, named Gracie, had tried to get him to follow her into a wooded area across the street from the Stratford Arms. However, further investigation revealed no evidence about Sherri. There must have been other search sites though. According to that dubious AJC article, as many as “seven searches of woods, ponds and a vacant warehouse, some with cadaver dogs, within a three-mile radius of Holland’s car turned up nothing.” An anonymous tipster told investigators Sherri was seen near her car loading luggage into a white pickup truck on the day she vanished. Further investigation revealed no additional evidence and police could not corroborate the tip. Sherri was apparently operating an escort service called Atlanta Super Models out of her house the year she disappeared and her business partner told investigators during interview that they had been in business since 1992 and he believed her murder was related to their work. The business partner spoke of her in the past tense. He claimed she had set up video surveillance around the escort service’s property and caught both employees and clients on video, later blackmailing them. The business partner claimed he had many people discuss killing Sherri. Sherri had started dating a married man in 1989. The man and his wife separated briefly in 1990 but eventually got back together. Sherri and the boyfriend had planned to marry in December 1996 but the boyfriend got cold feet and stayed with his wife. Apparently, at least according to the boyfriend, his wife never knew about his affair with Sherri. He told police he and Sherri had argued about their relationship before she left for her vacation home in Florida. Having parted ways without resolving the argument, Sherri paged him around 11:30 AM and when he called her back she told him she would call when she got back to Atlanta. That was the last time he ever spoke to her. Several people told investigators Sherri was depressed about things with her boyfriend and wanted out of the escort business. She had apparently mentioned Europe as an escape destination. Someone later gave authorities a recording phone call from September 1996 in which one of Sherri’s sisters says to an unidentified second person that it’s possible Sherri staged her own disappearance and escaped to Europe or elsewhere to start over. A user going by the name anewday and claiming to have been an employee of Sherri’s posted on the missing persons forum Porchlight and suspects Sherri’s business partner, whom Anewday calls Jim: I remember Sherri very well. She was beautiful, sweet and had a very sophisticated aire. I love this picture of her and Gracie (when she was a puppy). I worked for her for four years, but mostly knew her through her “business partner.” The whole time I worked there, she had very little to do with the business and was out of town a lot of the time. I told the GBI everything that I knew about her and her disappearance, including the fact that Jim had acted extremely nervous and sketchy during the days following her disappearance. I don’t believe for one second that she was using video to blackmail her employees or their clients. If anyone did that, it was Jim. He had a whole suspicious backstory of who he was and where he came from. I’m fairly sure his name wasn’t Jim, either. When he told me about her disappearance, he said she probably just wanted to leave town to get away from her life, and also, to make her boyfriend worry about her. It was well known that she was devastated about their relationship problems. I never trusted anything about Jim. He would say terrible things about her, but at the same time, pretty much lived on her dime and the business she had started. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he finally decided to “take” the business all for himself. It was very profitable, and being that it was all under the table, he probably figured no one would take much notice. I look online year after year to see if anything has come of the case. She was (hopefully IS) such a vibrant person. She positively radiated with life. I hope she IS living in Europe and is finally happy. God bless you Sherri. Anewday created their forum account on the same day that they posted this message and never posted anything else at Porchlight, so this info should probably be taken with a whole shaker of salt. Motives Now we’ll discuss all of the motives I found in my research or came up with myself to make Sherri disappear. This section should probably be called “suspects” but I’m not in a position to suggest anyone is guilty of anything so I’m reluctant to call it that. Motive 1: Sherri’s business partner “Jim” had a couple of possible motives. First, if the rumors are true that Sherri was blackmailing clients and employees she could have been damaging the business, driving Jim to get rid of her to save the business. Second, if Porchlight forum member Anewday is to be believed, Jim may have simply grown tired of Sherri’s absentee management and decided to take the business for himself. But while Anewday claims Jim was acting “extremely nervous and sketchy” after Sherri disappeared, he could have been expecting the investigation would lead authorities to his illegal escort service. That alone would be enough to be nervous about even if Jim had nothing to do with Sherri’s disappearance. Motive 2: Sherri’s married boyfriend also may have had a motive. If Sherri threatened to tell his wife about their affair if he didn’t marry Sherri like they had planned, the boyfriend may have felt his recently reconciled marriage was in danger and took the extreme step of making Sherri disappear. We don’t even know his name though, so it’s hard to speculate on anything like his past, his personality or whether he had the opportunity to do anything to Sherri or to hire an uninvolved third party to do it. Motive 3: If Sherri’s boyfriend’s wife had found out about the affair despite his claim that she didn’t know, her anger and jealousy may have motivated her to bring harm to Sherri herself, to demand her husband do it, or to hire an uninvolved third party to do it. I’m going to give the GBI the benefit of the doubt, even though I couldn’t confirm this anywhere, that they talked to Sherri’s boyfriend’s wife. She would have told them whether or not she knew about the affair and, if she hadn’t, I bet her initial reaction would have demonstrated as much to investigators. These next two motives are weak but I’m including them for the sake of being thorough: Motive 4: Sherri may have decided to escape her failed relationship and increasingly unwanted job by going to Europe, never to be heard from again. This is very unlikely to me though because she had no reason to abandon her car on the highway and even less reason to abandon her dogs. She could have left the dogs with one or more of her sisters and simply gotten a taxicab to the airport. Related to this theory is the lead mentioned in the 2001 Atlanta Journal-Constitution articleI mentioned earlier: “Then there was the man who told investigators he had gone to college in Cobb County with Holland and recognized her on an Atlanta-bound airline flight from Texas last November. “He went up and spoke to her, and the woman looked up at him and went back to reading a book. She refused to speak,” [GBI agent Fred] Mays said.” This is more total conjecture, but I would imagine most people would politely say “no” or angrily say “leave me alone” depending on their personality type. But annoyance may explain her refusal to speak at all. This sounds like something that may have happened to the woman more than once. It’s very unlikely, in my opinion, that this was Sherri. After all, why make yourself vanish only to go no further than Texas? And why risk returning to Atlanta if you wanted so badly to get away from everyone and everything you knew? She certainly wasn’t returning to reunite with friends or family because this sighting occurred in November 2000 and she hasn’t been seen since 1996. Motive 5: Serial killer Gary Michael Hilton may have counted Sherri among his victims. Websleuths member FigTree theorizes that several similarities between Sherri and Hilton’s victims suggest a connection. For example, Hilton told police during his confession of the January 2008 murder of Meredith Emerson that he could not bring himself to kill Emerson’s dog and let it go a few miles from the crime scene. Also, Hilton lived 22 minutes from Sherri’s Georgia residence and had killed at least one person, Cheryl Dunlap, in Florida. Dunlap’s car had been found by the side of the road with a flat tire, something Hilton did with a knife. Hilton confessed several murders to authorities so why not Sherri’s? I respect FigTree’s interest in the case and that sometimes we have gut feelings we just can’t shake, but I just don’t have the same feeling here. I watched, listened to or read transcripts of more than six hours of investigative interviews with Hilton in an effort to give this theory my full attention. If you want to dive deeper into the Hilton theory put forward y FigTree you can find all of the documents and videos about Hilton at hiltonevidencedocuments.blogspot.com. My Theory I wish I had a good theory on this one but first I’ll tell you what I think did not happen. I don’t think Sherri ran away to Europe or was murdered by Gary Michael Hilton. I also don’t see her boyfriend or his wife getting involved in a disappearance or murder without drawing significant attention from investigators and I couldn’t find anything that named them as suspects or made more than a brief mention about them. It’s hard for me to believe a couple who could barely keep their marriage in tact managed to commit the perfect murder and haven’t been suspected of it during the twenty year since. Now, as for the two possibilities that look most likely to me: My first theory: I do agree with FigTree on Websleuths that Fuquah Dewalt Cashaw, arrested at his home in Texas in February 2015 for the 1999 murder of 22-year-old Heather Danielle Davidson in Georgia, is worth a look with regard to Sherri’s disappearance. The last we heard of Cashaw he was out on bond after pleading not guilty to Davidson’s strangling death. According to Click2Houston.com, “Cook County, Illinois, court records show in 1990 he was found guilty of murder and second-degree murder. In 2003 he was found guilty of unlawful use of weapon, and in 2004 he was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and concealment of a homicidal death.” He’s got both prior convictions and present charges that indicate he’s capable of murder, and Davidson’s body was found on a small and desolate stretch of Georgia road by a passerby, by accident. A tendency to take victims somewhere out of the way may explain why no sign of Sherri has been found at any of the leads uncovered by investigators: because they were all derived from some connection to Sherri, like where her car was found and where her dogs were found. A FOX 5 article quoteLieutenant Darrell Powers of the Butts County Sheriff’s Office as saying “Through the evidence that we recovered and the witnesses that we’ve interviewed, we believe that there are possible other victims out there.” That prompts me to keep this theory on the table. My second theory: Sherri got a flat tire heading home from Florida to Georgia and an unknown assailant kidnapped or murdered her in a crime of opportunity. This one admittedly isn’t as compelling as the Cashaw theory but unfortunately, at least in my opinion, it’s at least as plausible. If you have information about Sherri Vanessa Holland, contact Morrow Police at 770-960-3003 or the GBI Tip Line at 1-800-597-8477. Cold Case Sources These are listed in no particular order. I include both original source links and archive.is links, which preserve the page in case it is ever edited or deleted. I also add all my sources to the Wayback Machine on archive.org but you’ll have to do those searches yourself. The Charley Project: Sherri Vanessa Holland (archive.is) missing-persons | Georgia Bureau of Investigation (archive.is) Porchlight International for the Missing & Unidentified -> Holland, Sherri V. August 16,1996(archive.is) PorchlightUSA -> 1996 Holland, Sherri V. August 16,1996 (archive.is) FL – SHERRI HOLLAND: Missing from Flagler Beach, FL – 16 August 1996 – Age 34 | Crimewatchers.net (archive.is) SHERRI HOLLAND: Missing from Flagler Beach, FL – 16 August 1996 – Age 34 | Crimewatchers.net (archive.is) NamUs – National Missing Persons Data System – Sherri Holland – MP # 3989 (archive.is) GA GA – Sherri Holland, 34, Morrow, 16 Aug 1996 (archive.is) The Doe Network: Sherri Vanessa Holland – 1698DFFL (archive.is) The disappearance of Sherri Vanessa Holland in 1996 : UnresolvedMysteries (archive.is) Sherri Holland, 1996, Florida (archive.is) Butts County sheriff announces arrest in 1999 homicide case (archive.is) Suspect in Heather Davidson case granted bond (archive.is) Man suspected in 1999 Georgia murder case found in Houston area (archive.is (archive.is] Credits Our theme song is Our Planet is Lost by Entropy Audio. The bumper is a clip from Ofelia’s Dream by bensound.com. Conclusion Thanks for listening to this episode of True Crime Review. 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No script for Ep. 10, just a big list ‘o sources. Clip from Horizonte about Forde sentencing Clip from PBS debate featuring Shawna Forde KVOA: Leader of ‘Minuteman’ Group Arrested for Murder Photo Essay: Why Brisenia Flores Matters | Crooks and Liars Fellow Inmate Speaks: Jodi Arias ‘Concerned’ About Admitting ‘Fog’ Lifted During Murder –– She’s ‘Docile’ With Crooked Teeth – Radar Online Shawna Forde | Death Row Wiki | Fandom powered by Wikia Death of Shawna Forde associate in Everett is a mystery | HeraldNet.com Jodi Arias update: Death row inmate pens tell-all about convicted murderer – ABC15 Arizona Shawna Forde Sentenced to Death | Psychology Today State of Arizona v. Shawna Forde, – CourtListener.com ‘Hell Followed’ Minuteman Leader Shawna Forde | La Prensa San Diego Shawna Forde death sentence: Ariz. anti-immigrant activist condemned to die for killing father, daughter – CBS News Shawna Forde death sentence: Ariz. anti-immigrant activist condemned to die for killing father, daughter – CBS News Seattle News and Events | Cover Story: Lethally Blonde Murders of Raul and Brisenia Flores – Wikipedia Shawna Forde | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers ‘Minutemen’ Vigilante Shawna Forde Sentenced to Death in Deadly Arizona Home Invasion – ABC News (1) Free Shawna Forde Justice for Shawna Forde Shawna Forde Guilty of Murder: Exclusive Interview with Arizona Minuteman – The Daily Beast How the Brutal Murders of a Little Girl and Her Father Doomed the Xenophobic Minuteman Movement | Alternet Arizona vigilante found guilty of murdering Latino man, daughter – CNN.com Oin Oakstar, 43, Key Figure in Shawna Forde Trial, Found Dead in Homeless Encampment | Southern Poverty Law Center Appeal Denied for Shawna Forde, Nativist Leader and Murderer | Southern Poverty Law Center Mother describes border vigilante killings in Arizona – latimes Forde convicted in killing of Arivaca man, daughter | Crime | tucson.com Shawna Forde, Kid-Killing Minutewoman, Sentenced to Death | Phoenix New Times Shawna Forde Sentenced To Death For Double Murder In Arizona | The Huffington Post Arizona justice: Shawna Forde death sentence a rebuke to border vigilantes – CSMonitor.com Death Sentence for Arizona Minuteman Who Killed Girl and Dad – New America Media The Shawna Forde Blog Minutemen Child Murderess Shawna Forde – YouTube Minuteman founder Chris Simcox convicted of molesting 5-year-old girl – CBS News Shawna Forde associate found dead in Washington | Local News | gvnews.com The Minutemen’s Demise | Immigration & Labor | The Investigative Fund Report: Minuteman Leader Knew Killer-to-Be Yearned for Violence | Southern Poverty Law Center Another AZ Minuteman’s Twisted Character Manifests Itself | Crooks and Liars Evidently, Minutemen Founder Gilchrist Doesn’t Like Us | Crooks and Liars How the Brutal Murders of a Little Girl and Her Father Doomed the Xenophobic Minuteman Movement | Alternet  

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I know it took a long time, but here it is, Episode 9. Don’t forget to save a friend from a bland TCR-less life by telling them to subscribe! Shout-outs Revbom0z7: Love this podcast So informative and loving the emergency calls being added in at times. It gives a real insight to each story and I look forward to each episode being uploaded. Keep up the great work! Rebexster13: Just gets better It’s a new podcast. The first few episodes are not as good. But even so every one improves. A lot of stuff that isn’t covered on other podcasts. So even if you listen to 100 others, this is a must add. Xoxo. BlueJeep: Wonderful true crime podcast! Love the host and the content! What I don’t love: the creepy intro… (sorry!) HaleyBaley93: Review of True Crime Review I’m a huge fan of this podcast. Joe finds the best stories to talk about. He isn’t discussing the same story every other podcast has discussed. He is going to the depths on the internet (page 2 and on!) to find great stories for his listeners. Also, Joe is a great writer. He’s so eloquent with his words. The True Crime Review is to die for. All around great podcast I’m proud to be a subscriber of. Keep up the great work! TL;DR – Joe writes reeeal good. Finds unique stories. Great podcast. Must listen. Updates Gordon Semple Brizzi convicted in UK: I expected this because the evidence was overwhelming. Elizabeth Griffith, Stacey Stanley and Candice Cunningham Remains identified as Candice Cunningham in Grate case: Prosecutor Bambi Couch Page previously said Grate confessed to killing Cunningham in June at the vacant Madison Township house, which was destroyed by a suspicious fire on June 20 or 21. Cunningham’s body was recovered at the rear of the house in a wooded area, down a ravine. In the Ashland case, the bodies of Stacey Stanley, 43, and Elizabeth Griffith, 29, were recovered in an abandoned house at 363 Covert Court near the downtown. Preliminary autopsy reports indicate both women were strangled. Grate has also been implicated in Rebekah Leicy’s death and that of Marion County Jane Doe, whose body was found in 2007. Shawn Grate items advertised online for sale: I don’t support “murderbelia” sales unless the seller donates all proceeds to the victim’s family, a victim advocacy organization, or another worthy cause. To profit from selling items related to a murder or a murderer is among the “depths of human depravity” I was thinking about when coming up with this show’s tagline. News Anastasia Duval Murder charges re-filed against Hawaii woman in twin’s SUV cliff-plunge death In May, Alexandria was driving a Ford Explorer on Hana Highway on May 29 with her sister Anastasia in the passenger seat when the SUV crashed into a rock wall, plunging about 200 feet onto a rocky shoreline during what was described as a hair-pulling fight over the steering wheel. Alexandria was injured but her sister Anastasia was killed. Though authorities arrested and charged Alexandria with second-degree murder a judge later ordered those charges dropped for lack of probable cause. A grand jury, probably convened shortly after her release, indicted her in late October on a second-degree murder charge. When police caught up to her in New York she fled briefly before being arrested. New York authorities will extradite her to Hawaii for prosecution. The audio clip included in this episode was retrieved from a video on the YouTube account of local morning show Mountain Morning Show on Park City Television in California. Kirsten Fritch, Breanna Pavlicek and their mother Cynthia Morris Medical examiner: Baytown teen stabbed to death: Authorities issued an Amber Alert for Kirsten after they found her younger sister, Breanna Pavlicek, 13, and their mom, Cynthia Morris, 37, dead with gunshot wounds in the family’s Baytown house. Investigators arrested Fritch’s boyfriend, 21-year-old Jesse Dobbs, outside of the bar early Wednesday morning. Police say Dobbs is a person of interest in the case. He was charged with one count of murder so far, for Kirsten’s death, but is being questioned about the deaths of her mother and sister. He’ll likely be charged in those murders as well. Chron.com reported Thursday that court documents state Dobbs stabbed her more than 50 times in a brutal triple slaying and told detectives he killed “not the real Kirsten but the fake Kirsten.” Audio excerpts were taken from KHOU 11 News. Sabrina Matthews Pennsylvania inmate arrested in 2008 murder of New York teenager: On November 9, 2008, someone slit 14-year-old Sabrina Matthews’ throat in her Queens bedroom. The next day at about 1:15pm, her father found her body. Because there were no signs of forced entry her father was briefly considered a suspect in his daughter’s murder. Then, for almost 8 years, her family mourned her murder without a name or a face to blame it on. That’s why Sabrina’s mom Shirda was so grateful to cold case detectives John Roberts and Phil Panzarella when they told her recently that they used DNA evidence to arrest and charge 24-year-old Rashon Venable, a Pennsylvania inmate already serving time on a plea deal for the 2009 rape of another 14-year-old girl. He was 16 when he murdered Sabrina. He has waived extradition and been charged with 2nd-degree murder. Sabrina’s mom, talking about the meeting in which detectives told her they had her daughter’s killer: “I scream out in the air, and I said, ‘Thank you, Jesus!’” Matthews told the station. “Oh, God, I cry and cry and I said, ‘Detective? Is this for real?’ And I said, ‘Can I hug you, sir?’” They did hug, and there’s really nothing I can add to that. Audio excerpts taken from PIX 11 News. You can see about thirty minutes of interview with Shirda on YouTube by visiting this playlist. Human Garbage of the Week: The Murder of Sherri Holland Sherri Holland’s sister doesn’t want revenge, she wants justice I work with mental health professionals and I know it plays a much more important role in violent crimes than most news reports discuss. But this case is an exception. Sherri Holland was the single mother of a 14-year-old son when her abusive ex-boyfriend Steven Frederick Spears murdered her. She was only 34-years-old. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported Spears had not one but four unique plans for murdering Sherri. These were electrocution in the shower, fatal beating, shooting her, and suffocation. In the end he chose suffocation. From the Atlanta Journal-Constitution: Around 10 p.m. on Aug. 24, 2001, Spears hid in the closet of Holland’s son, who was spending the weekend with his father. Around four hours later, he came out and killed her. Spears choked Holland until she was unconscious, then smothered her by wrapping duct tape around her face and mouth, placing a plastic bag over her head, and sealing the bag with duct tape. He then, despite it being 90 degrees outside, turned the heat up all the way in her house, no doubt to accelerate decomposition. When she failed to pick her son Derrick up from his father’s house the next day, the two men went to her house, worried about her. They didn’t enter the bedroom because Spears had padlocked it after the murder. That was probably for the best because sheriff’s deputies asked Derrick to wait outside while they searched the house for his mother. This prevented him from being present when authorities discovered what must have a disturbing scene. He hid in the woods like the coward he was for ten days before turning himself in: Once caught, Spears readily confessed to the murder. He told investigators 10 days after killing Holland — 10 days during which he’d hidden in the woods — that he had warned Holland that if he ever found out she was with somebody else, he’d “choke her … to death.” He told investigators, “If I had to do it again, I’d do it.” He was tried, convicted and sentenced to death. He was evaluated for psychological fitness upon refusing to pursue further appeals of his death sentence. When asked if he wanted to die, he answered: “Not really, but would you want to live in a six by nine cell? That’s not living” according to the evaluation report he added: “I want to die because I don’t want to live like I’m living. It’s like a cancer eating me up every day.” Sometimes the death penalty, widely considered the greatest price for a killer to pay, is actually an early release of sorts, preferable to a life sentence. As an attorney I sometimes wonder whether prosecutors or even victims’ families should be given the option to petition for the commutation of a death sentence to a life sentence. If the killer’s statements suggest life in prison would be worse to them than death, it should be an option of the victims’ families to ask a court to impose the sentence which would inflict the most suffering. After all, death penalty sentences are obviously not intended to lead to rehabilitation. The only purpose of the death penalty is retribution, to cause the killer suffering. If that suffering would be greater alive than dead, it’s a reasonable thing for a family to request. I know what you’re thinking: “I don’t want to pay for these people to spend life in prison, even if they’re suffering.” But the truth is that Spears is an exception, and most killers on death row fight the sentence, quite literally, until their final hours. So you’re paying either way… In conclusion, Sherri Holland’s killer may have had mental health issues, but his behavior and statements as reported by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution strongly suggest he killed out of deliberate evil. He planned and waited and hid, suggesting he thought about it, was willing to risk getting caught to hid in wait for her, and knew what he did was wrong, hence running into the woods. No, while he may have been suffering from one or more disorders, his murder of Sherri Holland was cold and calculated. That’s why Steven Spears, who was the eighth execution in Georgia this year, is the Human Garbage of the Week. But I’m going to end with something Sherri’s sister, Alice Loggins, said. For years she wanted revenge on Spears for taking her sister, but age and religion gave her insight into how her sister would have approached her own killer: “Sherri would not have wanted that,” Loggins said. “When they do this, and Steve faces Sherri and the Lord, I can see Sherri telling God she forgives him. I can see it plain as day.” Podcast Recommendation This week’s Podcast Recommendation is True Crime Historian. This podcast by Richard O. Jones features his inspired readings of primary source documents, usually newspaper articles, from centuries past. From the Old West to the death penalty to witch trials, Jones is a great dramatic reader. Couple that with excellent production quality and clockwork publishing consistency, True Crime Historian is one of the great role models for those of us who run solo podcasts. Subscribe to True Crime Historian at iTunes, audioBoom or SoundCloud, and visit the website at true crime historian dot com. Resource This episode’s resource is The Science of Evil: On Empathy and the Origins of Cruelty by Simon Baron-Cohen. If you’re considering buying it here’s an Amazon Affiliate link you can use to support the show. Cold Case: Gabriela “Gaby” Gonzalez Police: her body is buried in the Otay River Bottom area of Chula Vista. Timeline: Gaby Gonzalez Disappearance Gabriela “Gaby” Gonzalez was born on September 22, 1987. She lived in San Diego, California with her mother Leticia and her brother Eduardo Fernandez. She was last seen: April 5, 2002, when her mother dropped her off at Montgomery High School, where she was a freshman. That day, as on the two prior days, she let school almost immediately and went to her boyfriend, 19-year-old Juan Josa Vera, in Chula Vista, California. Later in April 2002: 14-year-old Gabriela “Gaby” Gonzalez reported missing; she was 5 feet 5 inches tall and weighed 115 pounds. She had black hair and black eyes and was probably wearing Levi’s jeans. 2003: witness interviews and the investigation led detectives to classify Gaby’s case as a homicide. February 2003: Gaby’s boyfriend, Juan Jose Vera, who has had gang affiliations since before Gaby’s disappearance, is arrested in relation to six bank robberies. June 16, 2005: The San Diego Union-Tribune reports being told by Chula Vista Police Sargent John McAvenia that “Some braggarts on the street have been bragging about something a gang member might have done. The rumor we got was ‘Something bad happened to her while she was in Chula Vista.’” By this time, Gaby’s boyfriend Juan Jose Vera is in prison for robbery and possession of meth with intent to sell. He was named a person of interest but has never, to this day, been charged. [Source] June 2005: Chula Vista police searched the Otay River Bottom at Otay Valley Regional Park due to suspicions her body was hidden there. [Source] November 10, 2016: Nearly 50 police officers, FBI agents, District Attorney’s Office investigators and evidence technicians turned out to spend the day carefully searching a large patch of the rough, brushy Otay River bottom, using metal detectors, ground-penetrating radar and other technology. Teams also fanned out across the neighborhood around Date Street and Date Court, handing out flyers with Gonzalez’ photo and asking if anyone remembered the case. [Source]; Google Map of the 2016 search area, command post and main search area at center November 14, 2016: Police tell reporters: “We believed there was evidence to be found, so we conducted an operation last week, and the operation was a success, and now we have more information to work with.” Chula Vista PD Lieutenant Fritz Reber won’t say exactly what they found but he believes her killer will soon be brought to justice. [Source] Gaby’s mother Leticia said told reporters during the November 2016 search that “I would like to know if she’s alive.” Her brother Eduardo said “We’re always going to keep hoping, until there’s a body,” he said. “You mourn all the time.” Fox5 San Diego also quoted him as saying, in response to the positive police reaction to the new search, “Very fortunate they haven’t forgotten about her. And that there are new leads. We feel very blessed.” — The section on Gaby Gonzalez includes music from Ben Sound. Find the song, called Ofelia’s Dream, at his website. Sources CA CA – Gabriela Leticia Gonzalez, 14, San Diego, 5 April 2002 City of Chula Vista : Unsolved Murder/Cold Cases : Gabriela Gonzalez Cold Case: Search renewed for missing local teen – CBS News 8 – San Diego, CA News Station – KFMB Channel 8 Investigators search South Bay riverbed for teen missing since 2002 | fox5sandiego.com Family of Chula Vista cold-case calls for justice in murder of d – KUSI News – San Diego, CA The Doe Network: Gabriela Leticia Gonzalez – 3129DFCA EXCLUSIVE: Search successful, moves South Bay cold case forward – CW6 San Diego Search’s on for girl missing for 3 years | The San Diego Union-Tribune Missing and Wanted: Police Seek Tips, Fear Worst in Teen’s 2005 Disappearance – Ramona, CA Patch

Introduction Thanks to these folks for offering kind words on Facebook and iTunes: Carol Laura Dianne FernandaMe Jayne blondesx40x I updated the big giant enormous list of true crime podcasts at truecrimereview.net/the-list. There are more than 100 true crime podcasts on that list, and it’s growing all the time. Which leads me to… Podcast Recommendation There’s no excuse for me not to tell you about a new podcast on every episode I do, considering I could do a recommendation every week for almost two and a half years without repeating myself. Sooo this week I’m recommending you add Curiosity Kills (RSS link) to your listening rotation. Two intelligent, irreverent, funny women taking advantage of the acoustic enclosure of an automobile to record great conversations about true crime. The Facebook fan group is also awesome so consider joining that, too. It’s a closed group but that’s just for the privacy of the members (aka so your friends and family on’t know you study murder). They’ll let you in with the quickness, just ask. Now for the News. News The Murder of Gordon Semple 50-year-old Stefano Brizzi is on trial for the murder of 59-year-old Metropolitan Police Constable Gordon Semple, whom he met through the gay dating app Grindr. Brizzi is accused of strangling Semple to death before attempting to dispose of, and possible eat, the victim’s body. BBC News reports Semple’s DNA was located on a blender blade, a cooking pot and other kitchen items. Authorities found bite marks on a bone fragment retrieved from Brizzi’s kitchen trash can. Police discovered the gruesome scene on April 7, 2016 following complaints by neighbors of a revolting smell. The prosecutor said during the trial, which is ongoing, that responding officers found “bottles of chemicals scattered in the hall and “blue-green liquid” in the bath with “flesh-coloured globules floating in the water.” Brizzi says he did not intentionally kill Semple, instead telling authorities his death was accidental, as a result of a “sex game gone wrong.” But I find it hard to believe someone who can say the following about someone would pass up the opportunity to kill: As you can see, this man was a very big man and all I have left is two buckets. Follow the BBC’s coverage of the ongoing trial by searching “BBC gordon semple” on your search engine of choice. Words from Semple’s family and friends on his death, as published by KentNews.co.uk: In a statement, Pc Semple’s brother, Ronnie Semple, said: “On behalf of Gordon’s partner Gary, my wife Maureen, Gordon’s nephew Paul, niece Kerry and I, I would like to thank everyone for their kind thoughts during the past dreadful week. It has been a terrible time for us all, especially Gary.” He added: “Gordon will be sadly missed by all of his immediate family, his colleagues in the Met Police, former Bank of Scotland colleagues in Inverness and London, friends from his ‘Tartan Army’ days, but most of all the hardest loss is for Gary at this time. “Gordon was a much-loved partner, brother, brother-in-law, uncle and cousin, and our world will be a worse place without him.” Friends remembered Pc Semple as a “great character” and and “old-school cop”. Kevin Holland said: “RIP Gordon. Was there in my hour of need, sorry I couldn’t be there in his. Missed by many. One of life’s great characters taken”, while Kristina Radu recalled him as a “very happy, smiley man”. Paul Hutchinson said: “Wish I could have been there for you at your time in need; my utmost pleasure to have known you. My thoughts to your family”, while Rona Tynan wrote: “Have heard he was a great cop old school. Very very sad reading this news. Deepest sympathies to the family and I hope justice is served at the highest order.” And Andrew Crooke added: “Rest peacefully brother. You’ve booked off your last shift here and I know you are starting rest days in a better place.” Update on the Murder of Erica Parsons WCCB Charlotte report on October 13 that authorities will not release Erica’s body for two or three months while the investigation into her death continues. The girls’ adoptive father led police to her body on September 27 and they have been with the Rowan County Medical Examiner since. Donors have already paid for her burial, but funeral arrangements will not be announced until the body is released by the ME. Prevent Child Abuse Rowan continues to accept donations in Erica’s name. Cold Case Solved: The Murder of Sarah DeLeon Sarah DeLeon was murdered on December 29, 1989 in Kansas City, Kansas. She had been stabbed, dealt a head wound, and left to die along some railroad tracks. She was 18 years old and decades passed without significant activity on the case. Then Carolyn J. Heckert, arrested only 20 miles from Kansas City, was charged earlier this month with Sarah’s murder. Authorities suspect Sarah DeLeon’s murder may be related to a 1987 abduction and a 1994 homicide. You can find the link to a Facebook page called Justice For Sarah in the show notes. As for the words of Sarah’s family, I’m going to read a post from that page that infuriated me. I’ll it speak for itself: Attention: It is with sadness that we must even post this. It has come to our attention that representatives from the TV show “48 hours” have been deceiving people to gain interviews on Sarah and Diana’s cold cases. We have heard from many people that these representatives are dropping the names of family members from both families in order to secure quick interviews for this story and beat other networks in airing it. To be clear… we are NOT working with the TV show “48 hours” and have admonished them to stop using these deceptive tactics for their own competitive interests. Again, it is sad that we even have to announce this, but we do not want any self serving interests to potentially jeapordize all of the hard work put in to seeing justice done for these girls. Neither do we want anyone to misrepresent the family’s stories and fight for justice. Thank you On to the Resource… Resource I’m going to say right now that this section is not an advertisement, it just kind of sounds like one. There are many kinds of armchair detective. Some study the history and there’s no better podcast for those folks than Richard O. Jones’ True Crime Historian. Others study criminology and behavioral analysis, probably listening to Real Crime Profile with Jim Clemente, Laura Richards and Lisa Zambetti. Then there are those of us who can stomach the autopsy reports, crime scene photos and other ways you can attempt to recreate not only a crime scene but the actual timeline of the crime itself. For people like us, the Atlas of Forensic Pathology is a macabre treasure. The tome, by Doctors Charles V. Wetli, Roger E. Mittleman, and Valerie J. Rao, is nothing less than a textbook for what to expect when performing a forensic autopsy. And, in true textbook fashion, it usually costs more than one hundred dollars. But the publisher, the American Society for Clinical Pathology, is selling the Atlas for 75 percent off the list price. I ordered my copy today for thirty five dollars plus shipping, coming in at just under forty dollars total. I’m sure parts of this thing will be a bit over the head of a lay person like myself, but that’s a good problem to have when it comes to information on complex topics. Can you find a lot of this stuff around the internet? I’m sure you can. But there’s something to be said for having it all compiled into a researched, organized textbook format. You can still get one as of this recording. I helped you out by making an easy-to-remember short url: go to bitly.com/ forensic-atlas to order yours. And now this episode’s cold case: Cold Case Monday, December 26, 2011, around 2:30 PM in Paradise Township, Monroe County, Pennsylvania. The torso of a man was found in a garbage bag. No head, no legs, no arms. A driver on Route 191 spotted the black garbage bag. An autopsy by the Monroe County Coroner’s office determined the victim was a male between 45 and 60 years old. The Coroner also said the man had been dead anywhere from two weeks to two months. And while the Coroner did say the manner of death was homicide, he would not comment on whether he had determined cause of death, or on the method of dismemberment. Fast forward to 2016. A Virginia laboratory used ancestry information gleaned from rib DNA to produce a composite portrait of what the man’s face may have looked like. State Trooper Craig Vanlouvender is a state police criminal investigator at the Swiftwater barracks. He told local ABC affiliate Newswatch 16: They believe that we should be looking maybe in the area south of Pennsylvania, in the states of Tennessee, Kentucky but also isotope readings were consistent with people who might be living in coastal California. They also believed the victim was subsiding on a rice-based diet more than a corn-based diet. Look at the composite portrait in the show notes, and if you recognize the man in the sketch, call the Pennsylvania State Police tip hotline at 1-800-4PA-TIPS. Conclusion Go to truecrimereview.net/subscribe to subscribe via your favorite app or service. Find us on Twitter at true crime r-e-v. Find us on Facebook, Instagram and just about everywhere else under the username True Crime Review. 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SoundCloud is still lame when it comes to show notes: no HTML support and no Markdown support, which means links and embedded images don't work. For now, I'll be including a list of relevant links for each episode, with a link back to the website for the full script. Full script: http://trucri.me/kwx0l Curiosity Kills Podcast: https://curiositykillspodcast.com/ CK feed: https://curiositykillspodcast.com/category/true-crime/feed/ CK Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1105953906147756/ PC Gordon Semple: Murder accused 'may have cooked and eaten officer' - BBC News: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-37728129 BBC - Search results for gordon semple: http://www.bbc.co.uk/search?q=gordon+semple&sa_f=search-product&scope= UPDATE: Decomposed remains of Greehithe policeman found after neighbours noticed ‘smell of death’ - News - Kent News: http://www.kentnews.co.uk/news/update_decomposed_remains_of_greehithe_policeman_found_after_neighbours_noticed_smell_of_death_1_4481357 Officials: Body Of Erica Parsons Won't Be Released For Several Months - WCCB Charlotte: http://www.wccbcharlotte.com/2016/10/13/officials-body-erica-parsons-wont-released-several-months/ Prevent Child Abuse Rowan | Rowan County Children's Advocacy Center: http://www.preventchildabuserowan.org/ Woman charged in unsolved 1989 killing in Kansas: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d629bd1775a44038a3eea3faad1d3dd2/woman-charged-unsolved-1989-killing-kansas Justice for Sarah: https://www.facebook.com/JusticeforSarah1989 Justice for Sarah - Timeline: https://www.facebook.com/JusticeforSarah1989/posts/1323457094353767 True Crime Historian: http://truecrimehistorian.com/ Real Crime Profile: https://soundcloud.com/real-crime-profile Unanswered questions remain in man's gruesome death - News - Citizens' Voice: http://citizensvoice.com/news/unanswered-questions-remain-in-man-s-gruesome-death-1.1250632 mon-sketch.jpeg (1920×1080): https://localtvwnep.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/mon-sketch.jpeg

Episode Introduction A quick technical note before we get into the substance of Episode 7. This is an Emergency Audio episode. These episodes include at least one Emergency Audio call or similar audio like police radio traffic (this one actually includes both). I try to keep length reasonable, but, at least so far, I haven’t cut out any audio from the calls or recordings. However, I do edit them for listenability by doing some noise reduction and other enhancements. There are much longer censorship BEEPS in the original files. Those beeps are like nightmares for your ears, especially if you’re rocking earbuds. So I take the volume way down and make them much shorter. So, while I cut no substance from the audio, you can still find the original files for all Emergency Audio episodes at true crime review dot net slash nine one one. There are two nine one one calls in this episode, with about twenty eight minutes of police radio traffic about the shooting between those calls. I’ve included chapters you should be able to use to skip between the different audio, but if you don’t like this set-up feel free to let me know. Case Introduction CBS reports Jesse Osborne had been home schooled after being suspended for bringing a weapon to school. According to WSPA news Osborne had brought a hatchet to West-Oak Middle School some time in 2015. UK newspaper The Daily Mail adds that Osborne had also brought a machete to school during that incident. There is also compelling evidence Osborne had once attended the elementary school he targeted in this shooting. On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 14-year-old Osborne shot his father Jeffrey to death in their Townville, South Carolina home using a handgun. He then drove to Townville Elementary School where he called called his grandparents on their mobile phone, “sobbing and mumbling unintelligibly” as CNN reported. His grandparents decided to check on the home, next door to their own, where their son and grandson lived. They found their 47-year-old son Jeffrey dead. Osborne had driven his Dodge Ram truck three miles from his home and onto school property and jumped a fence to access a playground. One minute after making the phone call to his grandparents, shortly before 2PM, Osborne opened fire on the playground, hitting two children and a teacher. Two teachers called Emergency Audio and seven minutes later law enforcement descended on the school. Osborne was apprehended at the scene by volunteer firefighter Jamie Brock, who the NY Daily News reported had been working with fire Chief Billy McAdams on his farm when they were notified about the shooting. Brock arrived on the scene before police and subdued Osborne before he could enter the school. Osborne was subsequently arrested. This week’s Emergency Audio episode is dedicated to first-grader Jacob Hall, who was among the three people shot by Osborne that day. Jacob, the only fatality, died of brain injuries caused by cardiopulmonary arrest resulting from blood loss he suffered when a bullet ruptured the femoral artery in his leg. Jacob fought like one of the superheroes he loved so much but on October 1, 2016 at about 1:00 PM, at the age of six, only three days after being shot by Jesse Osborne, Jacob died at Greenville Memorial Hospital in South Carolina. Next you will hear two Emergency Audio calls placed from within the school, one made at 1:45 PM, with a recording of police radio traffic in the middle. Prosecutors have filed to try the 14-year-old alleged murderer Jesse Osborne as an adult but the court has not yet scheduled a hearing on that motion. Osborne has been charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of his own father Jeffrey and of Jacob Hall. He also faces three charges of attempted murder and five charges of possession of a weapon during the commission of a violent crime. Please note there is other information floating around, especially about Jeffrey Osborne, the shooter’s father whom he is also accused of shooting to death. Most of what I left out of this introduction isn’t confirmed so I didn’t think it appropriate to share it here. You’ll all adults, you’ll find it if you want to, but please maintain healthy skepticism until we see more confirmed facts. Please look at the show notes for a link to a Fox Carolina about what you can do if you’re interested in helping students, the school and the community in the wake of the shooting. Post-Recordings Reading of Jacob Hall’s Parents’ Statement True Crime Review is my way of doing a small part to give victims and their families a voice in the wake of awful crimes like this one. That’s why I’ll frequently read statements issued by families, and usually in full. The following is the full statement released by Jacob’s parents on the day he died, October 1, 2016. “Our son, Jacob Hall, who was shot at Townville Elementary School on Wednesday, died today surrounded by family at Greenville Health System Children’s Hospital. Jacob came into our lives six years and four months ago and changed it completely. He showed us how to love, laugh and smile even on days we did not want to. God gave him to us and he was taken away from us by a senseless act. We know that Jacob has already forgiven this child for what he did to him and his family because that’s the kind of child he was. Jacob was sent to this earth for this short a period of time to show us that there is such a thing as pure love. Jacob is in heaven with God now and everyone who loves him. Words cannot express how much we will miss him. We want to express our thanks and appreciation to the community for the outpouring of love and support. We also want to thank the doctors and nurses at GHS Children’s Hospital, who did everything in their power to try to save Jacob, and to Ms. Hollingsworth, who put her life on the line to try to protect and save Jacob. We also want to thank Preacher Blizzard and the staff of Oakdale Baptist Church, the Townville Rescue Squad, Townville Fire Department, Fire Chief Billy McAdams and all of the first responders. This is an extremely difficult time for our family, and we ask for privacy as we continue to grieve the loss of our beloved son. Conclusion Thank you for listening to Episode 7 of True Crime Review. Please, please, PLEASE rate True Crime Review on iTunes. Honest five-star reviews get me more exposure in the iTunes store and lower reviews, if they’re well-done, help me make the show better. Find True Crime Review on Twitter at true crime r – e – v and everywhere else at True Crime Review. We’re on Facebook, Instagram, audioBoom, Stitcher, SoundCloud, Pocket Casts, Overcast and just about anywhere else you can think of. The website is at true crime review dot net and always has the best copy of the show notes. You can send email to podcast at true crime review dot net. And now you can even try leaving me a voicemail at 936-209-3828. Sources Source article: Townville Elementary School shooting 911 tapes released Unedited audio files: <http://truecrimereview.net/911/160928_Townville_Shooting/Original/> Edited audio files: <http://truecrimereview.net/911/160928_Townville_Shooting/Edited/> Cover photo source: Mourners dress as superheroes at funeral for 6-year-old school shooting victim – LA Times Other articles: CNN WNEP Scallywag and Vagabond (not a news brand but many photos of the alleged shooter and his family and many links as well) The State

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Introduction I know I skipped a week. I’m sorry. I’m not happy about it either. Correction: Victoria Martens’ rapists and killers, who I’ll remind you included her mother, who had arranged several rapes of her own daughter previously and who enjoyed watching the rapes take place, pleaded NOT guilty to all charges; Source I’m covering two news stories instead of four or five this time and covering them in more depth. Let me know what you think. News Killers of Victoria Martens will go on trial in October 2017 LINK Newscasters obtained police interview transcripts and 911 audio but I couldn’t find the audio itself or the transcripts, only stories quoting bits and pieces of them. If I find them I’ll let you know, and if you find them, hopefully you’ll do the same. Here is an excerpt from the news article about the transcripts, and they’ll be a link to that article in the show notes: She told detectives she watched Gonzales and Kelley sexually assault Victoria at least three times in the days before the murder. She also said she suspected Gonzales had been sexually assaulting her daughter for a month while she was at work. One detective asks, “This time she died and you weren’t ready for the type of animals these people were?” Martens replied “Yes, but I should have stopped it.” She then told police she enjoyed watching men have sex with Victoria. She admitted to letting two other men have sex with her daughter over the past six months. She named both the men. Albuquerque police will not say if those two men have been questioned. Shawn Grate sends letters to news woman Megan Hickey LINK Shawn Grate was recently charged with 23 counts, including two counts of murder and one count of kidnapping. Listen to Episode 4.5 to hear the 911 calls from the woman who survived her abduction by Grate and got him arrested. From his first letter: Grate’s first letter responded to a request from Hickey asking for an on-camera interview. “That sounds scary in facing myself even more,” Grate wrote. “The mirror has been enough but having even more questions hitting me straight on could and would only help to understand me better.” From his second letter: “They were already dead, just their bodies were flopping wherever it can flop but their minds were already dead! The state took their minds. Once they started receiving their monthly checks.” Grate said “government assistance” took his victim’s “minds.” He said he applied for government assistance five years ago and received $197 on a food card that he used for a year and a half. He found work making handcrafted signs. “Never was able to receive any encouragement, though many bodies received 700,” he wrote. Grate uses the words “people,” “bodies” and “victims” interchangeably. Reaction of authorities to Hickey’s offer of the letters as evidence: “Do what you want with the letters,” a member of the support staff said over the phone. In a subsequent email, Special Assistant Prosecuting Attorney Mark Weaver told News 5 that support staff is not authorized to speak to the press. “If you have evidence or letter from Shawn Grate that you want to provide to law enforcement, please submit copies to our office and we will review them for potential use in prosecution,” an email said. Erica Parsons LINK Erica Lynn Parson was born on February 28, 1998 in North Carolina and was adopted at birth by Sandy and Casey Parsons, relatives of her biological mother. Her brother reported her missing on July 30, 2013, telling authorities he had not seen her since November 2011. He also told police his parents killed Erica and buried in her in their back yard, but later retracted that statement. Her parents told police Erica had gone to live with her paternal grandmother Irene Goodman but investigators could not corroborate that and relatives told them Erica’s grandmother is dead. Her parents went to federal prison in 2014 for accepting benefits in her name long after her disappearance. Sandy Parsons, Erica’s adoptive father, led authorities to her remains in Chesterfield County, South Carolina in September 2016, near the home of Sandy’s mother between the towns of Pageland and Mount Croghan. Before the discovery, detectives recovered items in the search of a shed on property belonging to Sandy, including: a video tape, a hammer, teeth, and school records. The Charlotte Observer reported in 2014 on the extensive abuse Erica allegedly suffered in the Parsons home: James Parsons, now 21, said he and the other children in the family routinely abused the girl, who was 13 when she disappeared. He once broke her arm, he said. “I would hit her, physically abuse her, fists, belts,” James Parsons said under oath Wednesday. He said he abused the girl from the time he was age 5 and stopped when he was 16. “I didn’t want to hit her no more – I couldn’t stand it,” he said. He said his mother Casey Parsons encouraged the other children to abuse Erica, and he saw his mother often beat her. “She would beat her with a belt if she didn’t listen,” James Parsons said. “Mama would bend her fingers back.” Once, Casey Parsons put Erica’s hand in a cast because her fingers had broken, he said. The child was never taken to the hospital, he said. “Dad would hit her with his fist on top of her head,” James Parsons said of his father, Sandy Parsons. At one point, the girl developed a bald spot because of scabbing, he said. Food was often withheld from her as punishment, he said. If she’d steal a cookie or something else to eat, she’d be fed canned dog food by her adoptive mother. This happened up to once or twice a month, he said. Erica was often locked in a closet in the various homes the family lived in, James Parsons said. Sometimes she would be beaten for relieving herself in the closet, he said. Sheriff Kevin Auten said at a news conference on Monday, October 3, 2016 that he believes Erica Parsons was dead long before she was reported missing in 2013. Auten said no one has been charged in Erica’s death and also said Sandy was not offered any kind of plea deal or promise to lead investigators to the body. [Source: MyFox8] The Medical Examiner has not yet released its findings, but I will update you when they do. I suspect we will see charges against the Parsons for the murder of their daughter. Resource The Lost and the Found The news publication Reveal, produced by The Center for Investigative Reporting , has developed what they call The Lost and the Found, which is a side-by-side comparison tool for the databases of missing persons and of uncertified decedents. Find the tool here and find an amazing article about it here. You can also listen to the Reveal podcast. Find episodes here. Cold Case: Scarlett Keeling I need more time on this for full coverage. The case is far more complex than I thought. There are two autopsies, allegations of government conspiracy, questions about the investigation and even a Bollywood movie about the case. To top it all off, there’s two entries of material at Wikileaks about this murder (here and here) (and I have done enough research so far to be certain it was a murder, although what kind of murder and whether it involved drug trafficking, sexual assault and other issues remain unclear). Here is a very compressed timeline of events and I’ll talk more about the case in the future. Brief timeline of the case: November, 2007: 15-year-old Scarlett Keeling goes on holiday with her mother, her mother’s boyfriend and seven siblings and half-siblings, a 6-month trip that included India. Feb. 18, 2008, 3 a.m.: Scarlett Keeling is seen by multiple eyewitnesses entering Luis’ Shack on Anjuna Beach in Goa, India Later in the day on Feb. 18, 2008: Scarlett is found dead not far from where she was last seen on Anjuna Beach. Dr. Silvano Sapeco performs an autopsy which found 5 wounds and, while police inspect Nerlon Albuquerque tells press it was an accidental drowning, Dr. Sapeco says he raised the possibility of homicide to police but was ignored. Feb. 21: Scarlett’s mom, Fiona MacKeown, began approaching the locals for information, and was bluntly told by one that it was widely assumed Scarlett had been raped and murdered. On her way to the police station she found her daughter’s bikini bottoms, torn sandals and shorts lying unnoticed on the beach, amplifying her doubts about the police investigation. She and her lawyer later find 52 wounds on Scarlett’s body. Feb. 26: Fiona and her lawyer ask the Goa chief minister to make it a criminal investigation. Despite an initial refusal, two days later the state gives into media pressure and grants the request. March 4: Two Indian national officials demand the investigation be done over agani from the start. March 22: A second autopsy results in the recommendation of a homicide investigation, finding signs of sandy water in the lungs, suggesting drowning in shallow water, and sexually motivated violence or rape. March 23: Samson D’Souza is arrested based on eyewitness reports that he was the last person seen with Scarlett. End of March: Placido Carvalho, also seen with Scarlett the night before she was found dead, is arrested. June 5, 2008: Case transferred from local police to India’s Central Bureau of Investigation. Oct. 2009: CBI charges suspects with culpable homicide, similar to manslaughter, accuses them of “deliberately leaving her near the water line on the sea beach, knowing that she was fully intoxicated”, as well as sexual assault and attempting to conceal the crime. The failure to charge murder, blamed on the botched initial investigation, leaves Scarlett’s mom “floored.” March 3, 2010: Trial began, delayed by limit of once-monthly hearings due to the court’s major backlog and changes in the presiding judges. Sept. 23, 2016: The two suspects are found not guilty of the charges. Timeline Source: Scarlett Keeling: how the tragic case of the 15-year-old’s death unfolded, The Telegraph Conclusion Thanks for listening and for bearing with me through the growing pains. I hope you’ll give me your comments, compliments and criticisms and share the podcast with some friends. Find us on Twitter at true crime r – e – v and everywhere else as truecrimereview. We’re specifically having a lot of fun on Instagram. Fun may be the wrong word because we’re covering some awful stuff over there, but it’s an especially great way to connect with other true crime folks. We were especially excited to see the Generation Why guys repost our recommendation that our (meager amount of) followers listen to Gen Why (in the likely event they haven’t already). Thanks for listening and, remember, families deserve the truth, and victims deserve voices. Subscribe iTunes Google Play Stitcher Overcast Soundcloud Pocket Casts TuneIn Podtail Audioboom Blubrry RSS Connect Email: podcast@truecrimereview.net Facebook: http://facebook.com/truecrimereview Twitter: http://twitter.com/truecrimerev Reddit: http://reddit.com/r/truecrimereview Scribd: https://www.scribd.com/user/330734453/True-Crime-Review Credits Intro and outro use clips from “Our Planet is Lost” by Entropy Audio on their record Cyber Sol. Find them at http://entropyaudio.bandcamp.com. Creepy voice in intro synthesized by text-to-speech service Acapela-Box. Find them at http://acapela-box.com. Production editing and mixing is done in Audacity. Find it at http://www.audacityteam.org/. Post-production processing magic is by Auphonic. Find them at http://auphonic.com. Background music from Jukedeck – create your own at http://jukedeck.com.

SoundCloud is still lame when it comes to show notes: no HTML support and no Markdown support, which means links and embedded images don't work. For now, I'll be including a list of relevant links for each episode, with a link back to the website for the full script. Full script: http://krqe.com/2016/10/07/transcripts-detail-initial-michelle-martens-interview-with-detectives/ http://krqe.com/2016/10/07/transcripts-detail-initial-michelle-martens-interview-with-detectives/ http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/suspected-serial-killer-shawn-grate-reveals-why-he-murdered-victims-in-letters-to-news-5 http://fox8.com/2016/09/22/suspected-ashland-serial-killer-indicted-on-23-counts-including-murder-kidnapping/ http://truecrimereview.net/podcast/911-1/ http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article105682336.html http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article10602416.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZyYtTRxDkU http://myfox8.com/2016/10/03/new-details-released-in-erica-parsons-case-after-missing-teens-body-found-last-week/ https://www.revealnews.org/article/leftfordead/ https://www.revealnews.org/episodes/ https://wikileaks.org/wiki/In_Goa_we_trust:_the_murder-coverup_of_British_school_girl_Scarlett_Keeling,_1220_pages,_2008 https://wikileaks.org/wiki/In_Goa_we_trust:_the_murder-coverup_of_British_school_girl_Scarlett_Keeling,_files,_2008 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/22/scarlett-keeling-murder-how-the-tragic-case-of-the-15-year-olds/

This Emergency Audio episode includes the audio from the 911 call made by an unnamed female kidnapping victim of Shawn Grate, who has since [been tied to as many as five homicides][11]. I drastically reduced the volume of the ear-shattering “beeeeeeps” authorities inserted to censor personal information and compressed the audio to remove clipping. The transcript is included below. Dispatcher: 911, What is the address to your emergency? **Victim: (Inaudible)** D: What is it? **V: (Inaudible) Fourth Street laundry mat** D: What’s your name? How do you spell your last name? Who abducted you? **V: Shawn (Inaudible)** D: You said John Green? **V: Shawn Grates** D: Where’s he at now? **V: Asleep** D: Where’s he sleeping at? **V: In the bedroom** D: In what bedroom? **V: There’s two houses right by the laundry mat and it’s in one of those houses** D: But you’re at the laundry mat? **V: No, I’m in the bedroom with him** D: What color is the house? If I’m looking at the laundry mat, which way is it? **V: If you’re looking at the laundry mat it’s the one of the left of the two** D: You don’t know what color the house is? **V: No. I’m sorry.** D: Does he have a car? **V: (Inaudible)** D: So you think it’s a yellow house? **V: I think so** D: It’s an apartment? **V: No it’s a house** D: Does he own the house? **V: No he broke in** D: Does anybody actually live there? **V: No it’s been abandoned** D: And his name is Shawn Grate? **V: Yes** D: Does he have a weapon? **V: He’s got a Taser** D: Where do you live? What does he look like? Is he a white man or black man? Is he 6’ or is he shorter than that? Do you know how much he weighs? **V: Maybe 6’ probably 175** D: Are you injured? **V: A little** D: What color is his hair? **V: Brown** D: Do you know what color his eyes are? **V: No** D: What is he wearing? **V: Nothing right now** D: OK stay on the phone with me. Stay on the line with me, OK? Is he still sleeping? **V: Yes** D: where did he take you from? **V: My apartment, I mean I was walking with him** D: You were walking with him? **V: Mhmmm** D: Where were you walking to? **V: I’ve known him for like a month and a half** D: Is there any way you can get out of the building? **V: I don’t know without waking him and I’m scared** D: Is there a bathroom in the house? **V: His bedroom is closed and he made it so it would make noise** D: If you told him you had to go to the bathroom he would do something to you? **V: Yeah. Because he had me tied up** D: Are you tied up now? **V: Yeah but I kind of freed myself** D: Is he in the same room as you? **V: Yes** D: Is it his phone you have? **V: Yes. Are they on the way?** D: OK. We have officers we’re sending **V: Please send them now** D: OK if you’re worried you don’t have to talk you can set the phone down OK? Are you upstairs or downstairs **V: We’re downstairs. There’s a side door on the right of the left house and that’s where we enter. There’s a kitchen and right off is the bedroom** D: Do you need an ambulance? Are you bleeding? **V: Not anymore** D: What were you bleeding from? You don’t have to talk if you don’t need to, OK? Do you know where he lives? **V: No. Oh (expletive). Oh (expletive), I just woke him up.** D: OK set the phone down. _(Long silence after what sounds like a third voice)_ D: Are you still there? **V: How much longer** D: Do you hear any officers outside? They’re in the area **V: Do you think they could come in the side door?** D: Is there a padlock on the bedroom door or just a lock **V: No I don’t even know if he locks it (inaudible)** D: Can you see if you can get out? **V: No I’m afraid of waking him (inaudible) I don’t even know if it’s open** D: Is there a window around there you can look out? **V: Yeah but the floor squeaks and it’s right by his head** D: Are you laying down? **V: No I’m standing right by the bedroom door** D: And you can’t open it? Can you open it? **V: I’m standing without making noise** D: Is the door to the house open? **V: I don’t know, probably. I don’t think he has a key. He broke in I’m pretty sure. The curtains are all shut** D: What’s that? What’s that noise? **V: I don’t hear anything** D: Do you think you can get out? If you think you can get out, you need to get out **V: Not unless they are right here. He can catch me and he’s strong** D: She’s on the first floor. Are you the one closest to the laundromat or the other one? **V: If you’re standing at the laundromat looking at the houses it’s the one on the left. Side door. Side door** D: OK can you hear them? **V: Yes** _(More voices)_ D: Are you out of the bedroom? **V: Yes.** D: The door doesn’t have a doorknob? Can you see them? **V: Push the door** D: She said push the door there’s no doorknob there. Can you get out of the bedroom? **V: (Inaudible)** D: Can you hear anybody right now? **V: I heard the side door open. I’m out of the bedroom** D: Can you get to the door where you can see out? Can you get out of the house? Are you at the door? **V: Yes** D: She’s at the door. Is there a window there? **V: Yes. Come back, come back. Hurry, hurry! They can see me if they come to it.** D: The door is locked she can’t get out _(Heavy breathing)_ D: Can you unlock the door at all? Officer: Get out, get out here. Where is he? **V: Bedroom sleeping** D: OK they have here O: Unarmed? You need to go over here (Noises) O: Show me your hands (Voices) O: Where are you? Come on out here. You can’t be in there. Here cover yourself up. Tell me what happened. What happened? ——————————– ## Outro Please leave reviews if you can, and at iTunes if possible. Criticism, even if it’s harsh, is welcome as long as it’s constructive. Thanks for listening. 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Intro This one is later than I hoped, but by the time it comes out on Monday everyone will have seen the first episode of the new Jon-Benet docuseries. (more…)

SoundCloud is still lame when it comes to show notes: no HTML support and no Markdown support, which means links and embedded images don't work. For now, I'll be including a list of relevant links for each episode, with a link back to the website for the full script. Show notes: http://krqe.com/2016/09/16/suspects-in-brutal-murder-of-victoria-martens-to-appear-at-hearing/ http://krqe.com/2016/10/07/transcripts-detail-initial-michelle-martens-interview-with-detectives/ http://fox8.com/2016/09/22/suspected-ashland-serial-killer-indicted-on-23-counts-including-murder-kidnapping/ http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/suspected-serial-killer-shawn-grate-reveals-why-he-murdered-victims-in-letters-to-news-5 http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article105682336.html http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article10602416.html http://myfox8.com/2016/10/03/new-details-released-in-erica-parsons-case-after-missing-teens-body-found-last-week/ https://www.revealnews.org/article/leftfordead/ https://lostandfound.revealnews.org/ https://www.revealnews.org/episodes/ https://wikileaks.org/wiki/In_Goa_we_trust:_the_murder-coverup_of_British_school_girl_Scarlett_Keeling,_1220_pages,_2008 https://wikileaks.org/wiki/In_Goa_we_trust:_the_murder-coverup_of_British_school_girl_Scarlett_Keeling,_files,_2008 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/22/scarlett-keeling-murder-how-the-tragic-case-of-the-15-year-olds/

True Crime Review - Ep. 4 Victoria Martens, Jessica Runions, Chris Zahl Show notes available at: http://truecrimereview.net/podcast/4/