Your Pastor Reads Books Podcast

Ministry moves at the speed of relationships. Ten years into his church planting journey, Oscar Perez* talks with me about a leadership philosophy that is informed by the concept of “horizontal leadership,” the opposite of hierarchy. Our conversation is inspired by Gary Hamel’s The Future of Management, published by the Harvard Business Review. A lot of times, marketplace leadership books don’t transfer well to church leadership, but Oscar makes a compelling argument that horizontal and collaborative leadership can lead to healthier churches, ministry, and more flourishing in the Kingdom of God. Resources Mentioned & Affiliate Links:**The Future of Management by Gary Hamel *Oscar is the lead pastor and church planter of VividLife church in Plano, Texas. He also coaches pastors with Thriving in Ministry. Follow him on FB and IG. Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

“My growing love for the clowns in Rome made me desire to clown around a little myself and to speak about such foolish things as being alone, treasuring emptiness, standing naked before God, and simply seeing things for what they are. I came to feel that in this full, imposing, venerable, and busy city there must be a very deep desire to live out the other side of our being, the side that wants to play, dance, smile, and do many other useless things." -Henri Nouwen On this episode, my guest Rebecca Johnston* talks about making the adjustment to pastoring solo during a crisis in her family. When trouble hits, we all need to remember what is most important and return to the grounding and sometimes “foolish” practices that help us stay anchored in the life of faith. Our discussion of Henri Nouwen’s book Clowning in Rome: Reflections on Solitude, Celibacy, Prayer and Contemplation provided a great frame for our conversation. 01:30 Planting Microchurches 12:30 What is “dinner church”? 17:20 Pastoring through a spouse’s mental health crisis 27:29 About Henri Nouwen and Clowning in Rome 31:45 Four “clown-like elements for the spiritual life. 33:00 What does celibacy as “embracing emptiness” mean for single and married folks? 34:45 How celibacy teaches the church about God’s nature. Resources Mentioned & Affiliate Links:**Clowning in Rome: Reflections on Solitude, Celibacy, Prayer and Contemplation *Rebecca is an intentionally co-vocational church pastor, ordained minister, grad student, mom of two, and proud midwesterner. You can follow her house-church renovations on IG. Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." -C.S. Lewis Sometimes ministry seems absolutely impossible. And it is, when we rely on our own strength and skillsets. What does it look like to keep coming back to the transcendent Source at work in our lives—God who wants to bring resurrection and new life to the world? I explore this question with my guest, Mandy Smith, a pastor and award-winning author and speaker. Our conversation is inspired by two books. First, Mandy’s own Confessions of an Amateur Saint: The Christian Leader’s Journey from Self-Sufficiency to Reliance on God and John Hendrix’s graphic novel, The Mythmakers: The Remarkable Fellowship between C.S. Lewis and JRR Tolkien. Resources Mentioned & Affiliate Links:**Confessions of an Amateur Saint: The Christian Leader’s Journey from Self-Sufficiency to Reliance on God by Mandy SmithThe Vulnerable Pastor: How Human Limitations Empower Our Ministry by Mandy SmithUnfettered: Imagining a Childlike Faith beyond the Baggage of Western Culture by Mandy SmithThe Mythmakers: The Remarkable Fellowship of C.S. Lewis & J.R.R. Tolkien (A Graphic Novel) by John HendrixThe Faithful Spy: Dietrich Bonhoeffer and the Plot to Kill Hitler by John HendrixThe Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. LewisTolkien On Fairy-Stories by J.R.R. TolkienThe Lord of the Rings Trilogy by J.R.R. TolkienHow (Not) to Be Secular: Reading Charles Taylor by James K.A. SmithA Secular Age by Charles TaylorRe-Enchanting the Text by Cheryl Bridges Johns *Follow Mandy on IG and learn more about her ministry at https://thewayistheway.org. . Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

The stereotype of gender differences in natural ability in math and science persists despite evidence to the contrary. Boys are often told in subtle ways that success in these areas reflects their essence and will continue; girls, that theirs is due to effort and is, therefore, less certain. Girls often receive less attention and instruction even though their success equals that of boys. Since girls’ self-confidence is buoyed by feedback, the relative absence of it diminishes their self-perception as talented in these “masculine” subjects and decreases the likelihood they will continue in them. Textbooks confirm that women rarely rank among the achievers. -Susan Harris Howell, Buried Talents My conversation with Crystal Martin is inspired by Susan Harris Howell’s Buried Talents: Overcoming Gendered Socialization to Answer God’s Call. Crystal, who led a national network for women in ministry, helps unpack Howell’s assessment of how we arrived at a gender “gap” between men and women in church leadership roles and responsibilities. Crystal also helps us consider the kind of flourishing that could be achieved for both women and men if only the church can overcome the limiting effects of gendered socialization. 01:49 State of women in ministry in the church15:55 on Crystal’s reading life18:41 Buried Talents conversation Resources Mentioned & Affiliate Links:**Buried Talents: Overcoming Gendered Socialization to Answer God’s Call by Susan Harris HowellUp Home by Ruth J. SimmonsYour Vocational Credo by Deborah Koehn LoydNorthern Seminary *Follow Crystal on IG. Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

"God isn’t a sadist who delights in using agony to teach us a lesson. But in the alchemy of redemption, God can take what is only sorrow and transform it into the very path by which we learn to love God and let ourselves be loved. This is the strange (and usually unwanted) way of the abundant life–the dying necessary to bring resurrection." -Tish Harrison Warren, Prayer in the Night In seasons of grief, confusion, or overwhelm when we don’t know how or what to pray, the centuries-old prayers of the Church can comfort and anchor us in hope. My conversation with Jennie Crumpler* is inspired by her life as a campus minister serving on the collegiate staff of New Life Christian Fellowship in Blacksburg, Virginia, and by Tish Harrison Warren’s Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work or Watch or Weep. Jennie and I reflect on what it means survive dark seasons and walk with others as they do the same. 01:00 Campus ministry conversation14:57 Prayer in the Night conversation Resources Mentioned & Affiliate Links:** Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work or Watch or Weep by Tish Harrison Warren Common Prayer: A Liturgy for Ordinary Radicals by Shane Claiborne and Jonathan Wison-Hartgrove Northern Seminary *Follow Jennie on IG. Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

"It is an all too familiar story....A church leader starts out with a deep sense of trust and dependence upon God. They are surrendered....But, as the ministry flourishes and numbers grow, as is inevitable under God's power, organizing ministry becomes strained. The struggle to make decisions efficiently takes over. The pastor who once lived "under" God's power begins exercising increasing control and 'power over' under the pretext of getting things done for God." -David Fitch, Reckoning with Power In evangelical ministry spaces, there’s often an emphasis on defining ministry wins by numbers—attendance, bank balances, baptisms, salvations, buildings, and campuses. There’s nothing wrong with big numbers. Or small ones. But what happens if our big numbers entice us to exercise power in worldly ways, rather than in godly submission to one another? My conversation with pastor Seth Major* is inspired by his ministry in a historically neglected neighborhood in Peoria, IL, and by David Fitch’s Reckoning with Power: Why the Church Fails When It’s on the Wrong Side of Power. Seth breaks down for us how Fitch distinguishes between two main postures Christians often take toward power: the use of worldly power over others to compel what we believe is on God’s agenda or submission to one another under Christ’s Lordship as a group discerns the will of God together. 01:10 Ministry in Historically Neglected Neighborhoods18:50 Reckoning with Power Discussion Resources Mentioned & Affiliate Links:** Reckoning with Power: How the Church Fails When It’s on the Wrong Side of Power by David Fitch Pursuing God’s Will Together: A Discernment Practice for Leadership Groups by Ruth Haley Barton *Follow Seth on IG or Reachway Church Your Pastor Reads Books is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the show, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. YPRB host Heather Weber is a book-obsessed pastor, author, and holistic life and leadership coach. She is the author of Dear Boy,: An Epistolary Memoir. Find out more about her coaching, pastoral direction, and creative projects at www.heatherweber.org. And, subscribe to her Dear Exiles newsletter at heatherweber.substack.com. Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

"There’s no undoing the secular; there’s just the task of learning how (not) to live—and perhaps even believe—in a secular age. -James K.A. Smith, How (Not) to Be Secular Christians might try hard not to “be secular,” but there’s almost no escaping the impact of secularism on the way we think about ourselves and the ways in which we find (or make) meaning out of our lives. My conversation with pastor Andrew Meher* is inspired by James K.A. Smith’s How (Not) to Be Secular. Andrew breaks down for us, in simple terms, the ways in which practices of the Church can help us resist our tendency toward an individualized and secular worldview. Resources Mentioned & Affiliate Links: A Secular Age by Charles TaylorHow (Not) to Be Secular: Reading Charles Taylor by James K.A. Smith *Follow Andrew on IG or at The Plant Church. Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

“Every book has a soul, the soul of the person who wrote it and the soul of those who read it and dream about it.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón, The Angel's Game We catch glimpses of the life of the Apostle Paul within the pages of the New Testament—his letters and the book of Acts. My conversation with pastor Tom Jacobs is inspired by N.T. Wright’s book, Paul: A Biography. Tom does a deep dive on Wright’s book, illuminating Paul’s conversion on the Damascus road and the extent of his torture and suffering for the sake of the gospel. Wrapped up in that conversation is more about the ministry rejection every pastor faces and the process of “reconstructing” after we’ve deconstructed faith. Resources Mentioned & Affiliate Links:* Ever Ancient, Ever New: The Allure of Liturgy for a New Generation by Winfield Bevins Spiritual Leadership by J. Oswald Sanders The Hardy Boys by Franklin W. Dixon The Complete Grimms Fairy TalesPaul: A Biography by N.T. Wrigh tDes Moines Anglican Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

Have you ever wondered how to teach theology to toddlers? Or, why some pastors are able to engage in ministry with so much gratitude despite its inherent challenges and sorrows? I hope you enjoy this conversation with church planters Austin and Amy Gannett* from Greenville, South Carolina. It’s inspired by C.S. Lewis’ book, The Horse and His Boy, a classic novel for all ages that offers us glimpses of the beauty and truth of the Christian faith. Resources Mentioned & Affiliate Links:* Tiny Theologians and Tiny Theologians Podcast ABCs of TheologyBible Study Schoolhouse The Horse and His Boy by C.S. LewisT he Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis The Lord of the Rings Trilogy by J.R.R. Tolkien Becoming C.S. Lewis (3-Volume Set) by Harry Lee Poe Malcom Guite StoreThis Day: Collected and New Sabbath Poems by Wendell Berry *Follow Austin and Amy’s ministry at Trinity Church Greenville, or follow Amy on IG. Links to her Tiny Theologians and Bible Study Schoolhouse are above. Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

Insofar as we live as though God were not present, moment-by-moment, and as though this wasn’t the most important aspect of any present moment, we are living in the flesh. -Gregory A. Boyd, Present Perfect What life-changing moments do we miss when we’re focused on the next big thing? Are we aware of God in the moment with us? And, at what point should pastors refer congregants to professional mental health practitioners? These questions and this conversation with licensed mental health counselor and ordained minister Troy Renter* are inspired by Gregory A. Boyd’s Present Perfect: Finding God in the Now. Resources Mentioned & Affiliate Links: Present Perfect: Finding God in the Now *Follow Troy’s ministry at Harvest of Hope Church in Harlan, IA. Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

Your local church is uniquely gifted, situated, and qualified to perform kingdom mission in your particular community.As a pastor, I want to think about what that means for our local church. -Laura Tarro Churches look all kinds of ways these days, and that’s okay. But churches exist to fit into the mission of the Kingdom of God, so how do you know if your church has embraced God’s Kingdom mission to the world? In this episode, pastor Laura Tarro,* talks about Scot McKnight’s book Kingdom Conspiracy: Returning to the Radical Mission of the Local Church. She shares some of McKnight’s markers for a church that embodies and lives out the kingdom mission of God in its local setting while also celebrating the unique differences and gifts of each person in the church.  Resources Mentioned:Kingdom Conspiracy: Returning to the Radical Mission of the Local Church by Scot McKnight*Follow Laura’s ministry at Bethany Covenant Church at Bethanycov.org, Facebook, Instagram, or YouTube. YPRB host Heather Weber is a book-obsessed pastor, author, and holistic life and leadership coach. She is the author of Dear Boy,: An Epistolary Memoir. Find out more about her coaching, pastoral direction, and creative projects at www.heatherweber.org. And, subscribe to her Dear Exiles newsletter at heatherweber.substack.com. Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

Prayer itself makes us anxious because it uncovers fears we can ignore as long as we don’t engage deeply, thoughtfully, vulnerably with God. -Tyler Staton There are so many books about prayer, but sometimes we need to be reminded that prayer can include both silence and listening for God’s voice. This conversation with Nancy Raatz,* Pastor of Mental Health and Recovery at Evergreen Christian Community in Olympia, WA, is inspired by Tyler Staton’s Living Like Monks, Praying Like Fools: An Invitation to the Wonder and Mystery of Prayer. We talk about the wonder, disappointment, and insecurities we may feel about prayer, and we spend a little time talking about little “t” traumas, hearing stories of harm, and healing hurt that comes from our own leaders in ministry. Resources Mentioned & Affiliate Links:* To Be Told: God Invites You to Coauthor Your Future by Dan AllenderAllender Center Are you There God? It’s Me Margaret by Judy Blume Starring Sally J. Freedman as Herself by Judy Blume Anne of Green Gables by L.M. MontgomeryEmily of New Moon by L.M. Montgomery The Soul of Shame by Curt Thompson The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope by Curt Thompson The Ballot and the Bible Kaitlyn Schiess Praying Like Monks, Living like Fools: An Invitation to the Wonder and Mystery of Prayer by Tyler Staton Prayer by Richard Foster *Contact Nancy at Nancy [dot] Raatz [at] evergreenpnw.com or follow her on Facebook.**Clarification from your host: During the conversation, I said that Nancy and I are both part of Assemblies of God World Missions. What I really meant is that we are both Assemblies of God ministers. Only Nancy was a part of AGWM. Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

C. S. Lewis once said that God sometimes shows grace by drawing us to himself while we kick and scream and pummel him with our fists. That is my story.”― Philip Yancey, Where the Light Fell Did you receive your faith from your parents or grandparents? Or, are you passing it on to another generation? That’s a beautiful thing, but for faith to flourish, there must be room for questions, doubt, searching, and honest dialogue so grace can become real to the next generation. I hope you enjoy this conversation with Pastor Dave Hagen* in Carroll, IA. It’s inspired by Philip Yancey’s gorgeous memoir, Where the Light Fell: A Memoir. Resources Mentioned: Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis The Problem of Pain by C.S. Lewis Where the Light Fell: A Memoir by Philip Yancey Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets documentary What’s So Amazing About Grace? by Philip Yancey Follow Dave Hagen at davehagen8 on IG or follow his ministry at Carroll First Church. Your Pastor Reads Books is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support the podcast, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. YPRB host Heather Weber is a book-obsessed pastor, author, and holistic life and leadership coach. She is the author of Dear Boy,: An Epistolary Memoir. Find out more about coaching, pastoral direction, and her creative projects, go to www.heatherweber.org. And, subscribe to her Dear Exiles newsletter at heatherweber.substack.com. *YPRB may receive a tiny commission on purchases made through the links on this page, which helps support the podcast! Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

Text within this block will maintain its original spacing when published You don’t believe someone because you don’t have enough doubt. You believe them because you don’t feel the doubts are enough. -Malcom Gladwell As a society, we couldn’t exist if we were suspicious of everybody all the time. So we default to believing the best about others, even when we shouldn’t. This conversation with pastor and church planter Lisa Clements* is inspired by Talking to Strangers: What You Should Know about the People You Don’t Know by Malcom Gladwell. Lisa talks about leaning into the Holy Spirit and asking the “next question” when we have a hunch that something isn’t quite right. Will we have the courage to let things get uncomfortable for the sake of the greater good? She also has some interesting things to say about navigating the vestiges of the Billy Graham rule and whether or not Christians should be reading banned books. Resources Mentioned & Affiliate Links:* Little House on the Prairie by Laura Ingalls Wilder Trixie Belden (Book 1) by Julie Campbell A Wrinkle in Time by Madeline L’Engle DaVinci Code by Dan Brown Talking to Strangers: What You Should Know about the People You Don’t Know by Malcom Gladwell Influence Podcast with Dr. JoAnn Butrin: “Normalize Men and Women Working Together.” Better Together: How Men and Women Can Heal the Divide and Work Together to Transform the Future by Danielle Strickland Chi Alpha/Christianity Today article *Follow Lisa’s ministry at North Dallas Assembly.***YPRB may receive a tiny commission on purchases made through the links on this page, which helps support the podcast! Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

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Devote the back half of your life to serving others with your wisdom. Get old sharing the things you believe are most important. -Arthur Brooks By the time we get to the second half of our lives, it’s time to think about how our experiences—the good, the bad, and the worst—can become a blessing to others. In the ‘second half,’ we find we have a stock of knowledge that can be passed on to others. This conversation with Glenn S. Reynolds (Dmin, JD)* about surviving the worst, what matters most, and the ‘wisdom years’ is brought to you by Arthur Brooks’ From Strength to Strength: Finding Success, Happiness, and Deep Purpose in the Second Half of Life. Resources Mentioned: Surviving the Worst: A 30-Day Experience to Mend Your Heart Book of Hours The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk The Book of Common Prayer: A Liturgy for Ordinary Radicals When It’s Darkest: Why People Die by Suicide and What We Can Do to Prevent It by Rory O’Connor Walking with God through Pain and Suffering by Tim Keller From Strength to Strength: Finding Success, Happiness and Deep Purpose in the Second Half of Life by Arthur C. Brooks Ordering Your Private World by Gordon MacDonald Gordon MacDonald/Carey Nieuhoff Leadership Podcast Spiritual Rhythms for the Enneagram: A Handbook for Harmony and Transformation by Adele Calhoun The Road to Character by David Brooks James Emory White’s Summer Reading ListWall Street Journal *Follow Glenn S. Reynolds at www.GlennSReynolds.com. YPRB host Heather Weber is a book-obsessed pastor, author, and holistic life and leadership coach. She is the author of Dear Boy,: An Epistolary Memoir. Find out more about coaching, pastoral direction, and her creative projects, go to www.heatherweber.org. And, subscribe to her Dear Exiles newsletter at heatherweber.substack.com. Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

“Jesus's resurrection is the beginning of God's new project not to snatch people away from earth to heaven but to colonize earth with the life of heaven. That, after all, is what the Lord's Prayer is about.” -N.T. Wright, Surprised by Hope What is the hope of the gospel of Jesus Christ? Is it that we get to sing worship songs in heaven for eternity? In Episode 16, minister and missionary Jacob Johnson* unpacks N.T. Wright’s Surprised By Hope: Rethinking Heaven, Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church. It might be a delightful surprise to discover that “building for God’s kingdom” can begin with how we live, love, and work in the here and now. Resources Mentioned:Surprised by Hope: Rethinking Heaven, Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church by N.T. WrightSurprised by Joy by C.S. LewisKingdoms of Islandia series by J.J. JohnsonKingdoms of Islandia web site *Follow Jake on IG or email. Follow the @botswanatogether campus ministry on IG. YPRB host Heather Weber is a book-obsessed pastor, author, and holistic life and leadership coach. She is the author of Dear Boy,: An Epistolary Memoir. To find out more about coaching or to contact her about speaking engagements, go to www.heatherweber.org. And, subscribe to her Dear Exiles newsletter at heatherweber.substack.com. *YPRB may receive a tiny commission on purchases made through the links on this page, which helps support the podcast! Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

A vocational credo gives you the courage to be who you are. —Tony Gatewood Life’s circumstances can sometimes limit our hope and box us in to the status quo. Discovering our purpose and unique calling is our best resistance. Today’s conversation with minister and missionary Tony Gatewood delves into Debra Koehn Loyd’s book, Your Vocational Credo. Tony takes us on a journey through his own life as a youth hindered by poverty and violence on the South Side of Chicago into a realm of vocational discovery and imagination through epic fantasy novels and the epic Gospel of hope. Resources Mentioned:Your Vocational Credo: Practical Steps to Discover Your Unique Purpose by Debra Koehn LoydHinds’ Feet on High Places by Hannah HurnardLord of the Rings Trilogy by J.R.R. TolkienThe Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis Follow Tony Gatewood on FB or @tonygatewood on IG. Your Pastor Reads Books is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support the show, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber at yprb.substack.com. YPRB host Heather Weber is a book-obsessed pastor, author, and holistic life and leadership coach. She is the author of Dear Boy,: An Epistolary Memoir. Find out more about coaching, pastoral direction, and her creative projects, go to www.heatherweber.org. And, subscribe to her Dear Exiles newsletter at heatherweber.substack.com. *YPRB may receive a tiny commission on purchases made through the links on this page, which helps support the podcast! Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

"What makes the temptation of power so seemingly irresistible? Maybe it is that power offers an easy substitute for the hard task of love. It seems easier to be God than to love God, easier to control people than to love people, easier to own life than to love life." -Henri Nouwen, In the Name of Jesus Henri Nouwen said leaders face three great temptations: to be relevant, spectacular, and powerful. Today’s conversation with Scott Savage is all about the deep and honest work Christian leaders must do in order to remain healthy and resist those temptations. Nouwen’s In the Name of Jesus: Reflections on Christian Leadership, inspires our conversation about becoming a healthy leader and recovering from church hurt. Resources Mentioned:Is Forgiveness the Bible’s Most Controversial Teaching? (Relevant Magazine)Free to Forgive Course The Hardy Boys by Franklin W. DixonIn the Name of Jesus by Henri Nouwen Join Scott’s newsletter at scottsavagelive.com or search the socials for “scottsavagelive.” Your Pastor Reads Books is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support the podcast, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. YPRB host Heather Weber is a book-obsessed pastor, author, and holistic life and leadership coach. She is the author of Dear Boy,: An Epistolary Memoir. To find out more about establishing a coaching relationship with Heather, go to www.heatherweber.org. And, subscribe to her Dear Exiles newsletter at heatherweber.substack.com. Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe

“The trick to dealing with criticism is letting it do its good work but forbidding it to demoralize and destroy or to embitter.” -Beth Moore, All My Knotted-Up Life When respected leaders like Beth Moore face hardship in the spotlight and when they share with vulnerability the family challenges happening behind the scenes, we are reminded that mere struggle doesn’t disqualify us from the path God has us on. Listen here or on your favorite podcast platform for a conversation with coach and ordained minister Amy deVries* about persevering even when the wind works against you. Resources Mentioned: All My Knotted-Up Life: A Memoir by Beth Moore The Hardy Boys by Franklin W. Dixon Nancy Drew Mystery Stories by Caroline Keen The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis *Get in touch with Amy at https://www.coachamydevries.com. YPRB host Heather Weber is a book-obsessed pastor, author, and holistic life and leadership coach. She is the author of Dear Boy,: An Epistolary Memoir. To find out more about establishing a coaching relationship with Heather, go to www.heatherweber.org. And, subscribe to her Dear Exiles newsletter at heatherweber.substack.com. *YPRB may receive a tiny commission on purchases made through the links on this page, which helps support the podcast! Get full access to Your Pastor Reads Books at yprb.substack.com/subscribe